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Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old twins, so they will be flying to Vermont, where the summer house is located, next Sunday.

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A) so they will be flying to Vermont, where the summer house is located, next Sunday
B) so they will be flying to Vermont, where their summer house is located, next Sunday
C) so they will be flying them to Vermont, where the summer house is located, next Sunday
D) so they will be flying to Vermont, where the summer houses is located, next Sunday
E) so they will be flying them to Vermont, where the summer house is located, on Sunday.
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Since logically the five-year old twins can't be flying their parents, it is the parents who must be flying their children. So the pronoun ‘they’ must refer to Jane and John.

Secondly the object pronoun 'them' referring to the children is essential to make it clear that the parents are themselves not flying. These norms leave choices C and E.

E is wrong because of the use of the prepositional phrase 'on Sunday', which may tend to mean that the summer home is located on Sundays. Not a big issue but still C is more forthright.
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Since logically the five-year old twins can't be flying their parents, it is the parents who must be flying their children. So the pronoun ‘they’ must refer to Jane and John.

Secondly the object pronoun 'them' referring to the children is essential to make it clear that the parents are themselves not flying. These norms leave choices C and E.

E is wrong because of the use of the prepositional phrase 'on Sunday', which may tend to mean that the summer home is located on Sundays. Not a big issue but still C is more forthright.


Consider this scenario

Jane and John will fly to Vermont where their five-year-old twins are already present.

In this case option A is correct...


Also I am not convinced that "next sunday" can come at the end of sentence.
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Since logically the five-year old twins can't be flying their parents, it is the parents who must be flying their children. So the pronoun ‘they’ must refer to Jane and John.

Secondly the object pronoun 'them' referring to the children is essential to make it clear that the parents are themselves not flying. These norms leave choices C and E.

E is wrong because of the use of the prepositional phrase 'on Sunday', which may tend to mean that the summer home is located on Sundays. Not a big issue but still C is more forthright.


if it is clear that 'they' refers to parents , then how C is better than A?

A seems to be fine.
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They is referring to parents because 5 years old twins cannot fly themselves or their parents.
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The object pronoun ‘them’ is essential to imply that the children are essentially traveling, mostly with the parents. A may tend to mean that the parents alone are traveling. Why will they travel alone? Are the going to attend a summer school on parenting?

To assume that the children might be already there is imaginativeness at its height.

SC’s one concern is effective expression through logical predication. I think as per this norm, A, though may be grammatically correct, is still inferior to C

I agree that end of the sentence is not the right place for the phrase ‘next Sunday’. It should go along with traveling. But all the choices falter on this; so let us ignore it.
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They is referring to parents because 5 years old twins cannot fly themselves or their parents.


I dont think this is universal knowledge.... :P
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'flying them', isn't it should be 'flying with them' to have option C as correct. I went with A, as it looks reasonable unless we had to assume something.

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There is are 2 scenario , it is ambiguous
Whats the source ?
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Sorry. I do not want to reveal the source (for personal reasons). The instructor said that C is the correct answer while I thought A was better than C. So, I posted it here and BTG forums to see what everyone thinks.

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I fail to see how this is stylistically better than the original (as it still has the pronoun ambiguity). Moreover it changes the meaning.


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The so-called meaning change introduced by adding the pronoun "them" actually improves the logic of the sentence and makes it less ambiguous.Without "them" we don't understand who will be flying to Vermont - Jane and John? Or the twins? The addition of them makes it clear that Jane and John will be putting the twins on a plane, and the twins will be flying to vermont.

Let's look again at the corrected sentence. Since the sentence contains a subject and an object: "They will be flying them" (meaning "they" will be putting "them" on an airplane) - logic requires that "they" refer to the adults - Jane and John - and that "them" refer to the five-year olds.

In the real world, this is the only imaginable understanding of the sentence. Of course, in an imaginary world, it could be different: the twins could pay for their parents plane tickets, or maybe even ride on their parents' backs through the skies to Vermont. However, the GMAT will only present you with sentences describing real-world scenarios.

Finally (and this can never be stressed enough) meaning change in itself is not a sufficient reason to eliminate an answer choice, as a small meaning change is often inevitable to correct the sentence. If the other answer choices have worse grammar or logic mistakes, they are preferable to answer choice that has only a meaning change.

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Ans C- Why?

1. Pronoun must be unambiguous
2. Every pronoun has only one possible antecedent
3. Pronouns shows the tendency to refer to nouns in the same case. Ex above: a pronoun "them" which is in object position is presumed to refer to the object of the prallel clause "twins"

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Ans C- Why?

1. Pronoun must be unambiguous
2. Every pronoun has only one possible antecedent
3. Pronouns shows the tendency to refer to nouns in the same case. Ex above: a pronoun "them" which is in object position is presumed to refer to the object of the prallel clause "twins"

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the question is- why not A?

C changes the meaning, and the change in meaning is only permitted if something is wrong with the original sentence.
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The object pronoun ‘them’ is essential to imply that the children are essentially traveling, mostly with the parents. A may tend to mean that the parents alone are traveling. Why will they travel alone? Are the going to attend a summer school on parenting?

To assume that the children might be already there is imaginativeness at its height.

SC’s one concern is effective expression through logical predication. I think as per this norm, A, though may be grammatically correct, is still inferior to C

I agree that end of the sentence is not the right place for the phrase ‘next Sunday’. It should go along with traveling. But all the choices falter on this; so let us ignore it.



dear daagh
"where the summer house is located " is just modifying 'vermont'
then how can you ignore E out of list :? :?
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