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Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne
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Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne

In this sentence, the verb "persuade" is the same kind of items to be paralleled with "turned", not the same kind of item with "liberating", the verb used to modifies the action of "turned the tide of English victories in her country". Moreover, the idiom: persuade sb to do sth is correct in choice D, makes it to be the best answer.
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An important thumb rule to follow while handling compound sentences is the omission of the subject in the second IC, if the subject of first IC can fit in as well as the subject. Here the subject of both the ICs is Joan and hence you can drop the pronoun – she - in the second IC. The whole sentence will still be //. Secondly, the right idiom is to claim. Both these combinations, you find in choice D only
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Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

the sentence construction is as follows :-

Joan of Arc,------, turned-------- and she persuaded-----.

the sentence construction should be :-

Joan of Arc,------, turned-------- and persuaded-----.

so strike off A,C & E.

so idiomatically D is the answer.
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Why not (B) ?
by liberating...in claiming ? why not this construction?

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16 Jul 2012, 19:22
Classic parralelism displayed here.
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16 Jul 2012, 19:24
Claimed is part of the relative clause modifying Joan of Arc.
while "turned" and "persuaded" are part of the parallel independent clauses, sharing common subject "Joan of Arc".

We cannot have by liberating...in claiming

The meaning of the sentence is
Joan of Arc did two actions
1) turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans
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2)persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
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Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne
(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne
(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne

The underlined portion and the answer choices show us that there are two problems

Problem 1: Parallelism error (the very obvious one)
Joan of Arc, [long modifier that can be ignored (since it is not underlined)], turned [....] and she persuaded [...].
That leaves us with answer choice (B) and (D).

Problem 2: Idiom error
Compare "in claiming" vs "to claim"; latter is the correct idiom.
That leaves us with answer choice (D).
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This question is on the lecture of e-gmat.
A is wrong because COMMA+FANSBOY is needed to connect 2 independent clauses. We need COMMA+AND, not AND.
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10 Sep 2012, 00:58
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Why not (B) ?
by liberating...in claiming ? why not this construction?

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To claim is the right usage. Hence we go for D
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11 Sep 2012, 21:11
Can someone explain when liberating and persuading are not parallel?
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Liberating Orleans was part of the act of turning the tide of English victories. Persuading was a totally different act; you can parallellize liberating and persuading only when they are part of a list. In fact correct list is indeed turned and persuaded. That is the reason that they are required to be // rather than liberating and persuading
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07 Jul 2013, 09:00
Hello all,

I have a question/doubt in this question

Why not liberating is in parallel with persuading ?
It can be viewed as Joan of arc turned the tide of english victories in her country by doing two tasks :

1. by liberating the city of orleans
2. by persuading charles VII of france to claim his throne.

Why these two things not in parallel ??, and thus why C is not an answer??

Yes , C and E have an idiom error, but if we fix the idiom error, they may be the answer ?. So , my basic question is , why the above two are not parallel??

Hope somone would answer my query !! Confused
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Hello all,

I have a question/doubt in this question

Why not liberating is in parallel with persuading ?
It can be viewed as Joan of arc turned the tide of english victories in her country by doing two tasks :

1. by liberating the city of orleans
2. by persuading charles VII of france to claim his throne.

Why these two things not in parallel ??, and thus why C is not an answer??

Yes , C and E have an idiom error, but if we fix the idiom error, they may be the answer ?. So , my basic question is , why the above two are not parallel??

Hope somone would answer my query !! Confused

Alright, so your doubt is in C, so lets get directly down to C.

Apart form obvious idiom error, C doesnt maintain a parallel structure as well if we talk about the two tasks mentioned in your mail..
....... by liberating the city...... and [by] persuading "that"...... are not parallel.
On the other hand,
.......turned 'XYZ'.... and ......persuaded 'PQR'... would be perfectly parallel, as in D.

Without "that" C/E could have been parallel to liberating. However, even then meaning would be distorted.
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Hello all,

I have a question/doubt in this question

Why not liberating is in parallel with persuading ?
It can be viewed as Joan of arc turned the tide of english victories in her country by doing two tasks :

1. by liberating the city of orleans
2. by persuading charles VII of france to claim his throne.

Why these two things not in parallel ??, and thus why C is not an answer??

Yes , C and E have an idiom error, but if we fix the idiom error, they may be the answer ?. So , my basic question is , why the above two are not parallel??

Hope somone would answer my query !! Confused

Hi ashish,

i think you just misinterpreted the meaning of the sentence:
original sentence:
Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

in this the highlited part is a noun modifier and is modifying the noun JOAN OF ARC....now youmust know that a sentence must convey its meaning gramatically without its modifier...so lets remove the modifier part.'
sentence becomes:
Joan of Arc TURNED the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans AND she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
now if you see here in this sentence....you can figure out that SHE is refering to JOAN OF ARC....
SO joan of arc TURNED ..........AND JOAN OF ARC PERSUADED.......
now whenever you have a parallelism marker such as AND here....then both sides must be parallel...
MOREOVER whenever you have two actions(verb)...and 1 subject then you must always connect those verb by a conjunction and always remove the subject of second part ..because it will be redundant and hence wrong gramatically.

so here you focus in order to correct the sentence should be.....make the two verbs ...turned and persuaded ..parallel
connect them properly by a conjunction such as AND
REMOVE THE SUBJECT OF THE SECOND PART...means remove SHE from second pa
rt.
so till now must have understood thet here we dont have to make liberating and persuading parallel...
rather
we have to make two verbs parallel..
all this error are removed in option D
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne...

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08 Jul 2013, 00:11
Hi,

This is query is not related to this question, rather a general one.
For Example if the sentence is

"Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by doing X and by doing Y"

Can we remove the second by? and if yes, when can we do so ...

"Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by doing X and doing Y"
is this correct?
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Hi - No you can't.

This doesn't make sense

"Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by doing X and by doing Y"

What you can do though is be more radical and cut out the 'doing' as well. The below sentence works out.

"Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by doing X and Y"
is this correct?

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08 Jul 2013, 09:00
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Hello all,

I have a question/doubt in this question

Why not liberating is in parallel with persuading ?
It can be viewed as Joan of arc turned the tide of english victories in her country by doing two tasks :

1. by liberating the city of orleans
2. by persuading charles VII of france to claim his throne.

Why these two things not in parallel ??, and thus why C is not an answer??

Yes , C and E have an idiom error, but if we fix the idiom error, they may be the answer ?. So , my basic question is , why the above two are not parallel??

Hope somone would answer my query !! Confused

Hi ashish,

i think you just misinterpreted the meaning of the sentence:
original sentence:
Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

in this the highlited part is a noun modifier and is modifying the noun JOAN OF ARC....now youmust know that a sentence must convey its meaning gramatically without its modifier...so lets remove the modifier part.'
sentence becomes:
Joan of Arc TURNED the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans AND she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.
now if you see here in this sentence....you can figure out that SHE is refering to JOAN OF ARC....
SO joan of arc TURNED ..........AND JOAN OF ARC PERSUADED.......
now whenever you have a parallelism marker such as AND here....then both sides must be parallel...
MOREOVER whenever you have two actions(verb)...and 1 subject then you must always connect those verb by a conjunction and always remove the subject of second part ..because it will be redundant and hence wrong gramatically.

so here you focus in order to correct the sentence should be.....make the two verbs ...turned and persuaded ..parallel
connect them properly by a conjunction such as AND
REMOVE THE SUBJECT OF THE SECOND PART...means remove SHE from second pa
rt.
so till now must have understood thet here we dont have to make liberating and persuading parallel...
rather
we have to make two verbs parallel..
all this error are removed in option D
(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne...

HOPE IT HELPS..

Hello Vips000 and Shaileshmishra

Thanx for your fast, accurate, satisfactory response which helped me lot, and i am now clear about the question. No doubts

Thank you for your prompt replies
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30 Oct 2013, 21:05
In this question

1) First option can be rejected due to punctuation error. There is no comma before the 'and'. When two IC clauses are connected , we must have (, fanboys) . Moreover, We needn't introduce two Independent clauses in this case as we can do well with connecting the two options with a conjunction (and)

2)What did Joan of Arc do - She did two things - turned and persuaded , which necessitates these two things to be parallel. It is a list of things Joan did.

3) 'liberating' was never in contention. I think its a gerund because it is the object of the preposition 'by'

4)ofcourse, persuade X to do Y is the right idiomatic usage which rules out some other options.

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21 May 2014, 16:37
Hi All,

I know that this was touched in many of the previous post's but I still have a question:

Ignoring other idiom issues, I ended up with "e" because i made the error of making "liberating" parallel to "persuading". I did this because I read backwards from "and" and made both ends of "and" parallel (Liberating and persuading).

How would I have known to go and make "turned" parallel to the second half?
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