Check GMAT Club Decision Tracker for the Latest School Decision Releases https://gmatclub.com/AppTrack

 It is currently 24 May 2017, 08:51

# Live Now:

### GMAT Club Daily Prep

#### Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

# Events & Promotions

###### Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

# Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in

 new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics
Author Message
TAGS:

### Hide Tags

CEO
Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 2747
Location: New York City
Followers: 11

Kudos [?]: 939 [0], given: 4

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

14 Aug 2007, 08:58
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Hmm..interesting tense question.

The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

first he occupied and possibly did not win the loyalty
then he fortified London

I believe that the semicolon's tense does not affect the prior independent clause.
Director
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 579
Location: Canada eh
Followers: 10

Kudos [?]: 69 [0], given: 0

### Show Tags

14 Aug 2007, 09:48
B

Is my answer
VP
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
Posts: 1082
Followers: 8

Kudos [?]: 565 [0], given: 0

Re: [#permalink]

### Show Tags

05 Feb 2008, 06:23
hemamalinidr wrote:
Will go with B.

I think OA is B.
Director
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
Posts: 790
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 165 [0], given: 0

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

06 Feb 2008, 22:23
Just because implies a recent action. Eliminate A, C and E
(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he [It has no clear referent – it may point to occupied and fortified/fact – eliminate it]
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

Answer: B
Intern
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Posts: 1
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

02 Dec 2009, 09:47
Can someone please tell and explain the answer for the 30th question
Manager
Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Posts: 101
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 28 [0], given: 0

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

25 Dec 2009, 19:23
Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.
(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

C D E - it cannot refer to the subordinate clause (just ... 886)
A C E - I am not sure that Just because ... can be a subject of the clause
B - past perfect tense is correct as this is an event before Danes' invading
Intern
Joined: 22 Dec 2009
Posts: 28
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 15 [0], given: 6

Re: [#permalink]

### Show Tags

29 Dec 2009, 09:59
gmat_crack wrote:
Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.
(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

in the question above, we have two past events, 1. king alfred, occupying and fortifying london, and 2. winning the loyalty of the citizens.
so, the verb tense is very important to distinguish the time of occurrence of the two events, so 'had' should be used for the event (event 1) that preceded the event 2.
so, A,C,D are wrong... in option E, unnecessary use of comma and it.. this makes the sentence little awkward.
IMO answer is B.

haas_mba07 wrote:
Standard Written English: SWE

For usage of "because":
http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/015.html

"Just because" is informal and on GMAT won't be correct...

As for "had" my idea was ||ism:
"King Alfred had ... he had..."

ps_dahiya wrote:
OasisNYK wrote:
I thought the GMAT also hated "The fact that"?

NEVER. It is frequently tested.

If you read the link provided by haas_mba, it says:
A clause starting with "Just becasue" and acting as a subject of the sentence is not accepted in formal english. So A is out.
C,D and E are out because "it" can not refer to the sentence or clauses.

Hence its B.

thanks haas_mba07 and ps_dahiya, the info u provided is very useful... great to hear new errors in GMAT answer stem..
_________________

Deserve before you Desire

SVP
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Posts: 1537
Schools: CBS
WE 1: 4 years (Consulting)
Followers: 44

Kudos [?]: 1195 [0], given: 2

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

05 Sep 2010, 04:04
Why do we need past perfect if the timeline is already clarified (years 886 and 893)?
_________________

The sky is the limit
800 is the limit

GMAT Club Premium Membership - big benefits and savings

Intern
Joined: 29 Jul 2010
Posts: 45
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 1

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

14 Sep 2010, 01:43
I also thought "the fact" in gmat is wrong..
Now, i m clear that gmat can .... us..
SVP
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Posts: 1537
Schools: CBS
WE 1: 4 years (Consulting)
Followers: 44

Kudos [?]: 1195 [0], given: 2

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

24 Oct 2010, 02:27
noboru wrote:
Why do we need past perfect if the timeline is already clarified (years 886 and 893)?

nobody is going to clarify this?
thanks
_________________

The sky is the limit
800 is the limit

GMAT Club Premium Membership - big benefits and savings

Intern
Joined: 26 Jun 2010
Posts: 32
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 2 [0], given: 4

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

28 Aug 2011, 06:06
I too was confused between A and B and unfortunately marked A.
As far as i understand -
C,D,E have invalid referent it therefore choice between A and B
if we invert the sentence to see which made more sense and B makes more sense -
The invading danes were well aware of the fact that .... however there was some ambiguity with this approach too so i went with gut feeling... reading the discussion i understand -

a. Just because .. structure as subject is not formal and therefore not accepted on GMAT. (Sorry but the http://www.bartleby.com/ link no longer redirects to the right place)

b. since the same sentence fragment has two timelines -
Just because King Alfred occupied and (part 1)--fortified London in 886 did not mean that --(part 2) he also won the loyalty of its citizens:
therefore a past participle format is needed
Senior Manager
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
Posts: 280
Concentration: Strategy, General Management
GMAT 1: 680 Q49 V34
GMAT 2: 730 Q49 V41
GPA: 4
WE: Consulting (Other)
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 49 [0], given: 23

Re: SC- King Alfred [#permalink]

### Show Tags

31 Aug 2011, 10:18
Choose B- since the definite times were given so thought "had" was not required. good point to note on "just because, just like"
_________________

My GMAT Journey 540->680->730!

~ When the going gets tough, the Tough gets going!

Manager
Status: Essaying
Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 150
Location: Ghana
Concentration: Finance, Finance
Schools: Cambridge
GMAT 1: 690 Q47 V37
GPA: 3.9
WE: Accounting (Education)
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 9 [0], given: 8

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

10 Nov 2011, 02:59
Great help guys... I learnt so much from this question.
Note to self: Just because is wrong
Manager
Status: Time to apply!
Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Posts: 209
Location: India
Concentration: Finance, Entrepreneurship
GMAT 1: 600 Q48 V25
GMAT 2: 660 Q50 V29
GMAT 3: 690 Q49 V34
GPA: 3.2
WE: Engineering (Computer Software)
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 127 [0], given: 166

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

19 Nov 2011, 00:55
the explanations helped ... thanks everyone !
_________________

Didn't give up !!! Still Trying!!

VP
Status: Been a long time guys...
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 1381
Location: United States (NY)
Concentration: Finance, Marketing
GPA: 3.75
Followers: 178

Kudos [?]: 1462 [0], given: 62

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

31 Oct 2012, 06:03
Can anyone please explain how the usage of two HADs explains the sequence of events. I guess we need only one had prior to occupying and fortifying.
Help will be appreciated.
_________________
Manager
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 76
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 23 [0], given: 14

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

29 Dec 2012, 15:02
A – Comma missing before did. Eliminate
B – same tense.
C – Lacks Parallelism. Had occupied and also had won the loyalty
D – lacks comjunction after comma. Eliminate
E – Lacks parallelism. Had occupied and also had won the loyalty
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 10370
Followers: 997

Kudos [?]: 224 [0], given: 0

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

28 Aug 2015, 05:06
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
VP
Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 1390
Followers: 5

Kudos [?]: 130 [0], given: 855

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

28 Aug 2015, 07:18
I think it is D

"it" has no referent in C and E,
because clause can not be subject in A
had done is wrong in b
_________________

visit my facebook to help me.
on facebook, my name is: thang thang thang

GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 10370
Followers: 997

Kudos [?]: 224 [0], given: 0

Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in [#permalink]

### Show Tags

15 Sep 2016, 09:24
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
Re: Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in   [#permalink] 15 Sep 2016, 09:24

Go to page   Previous    1   2   [ 39 posts ]

Similar topics Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
Just because King Alfred occupied 0 12 Mar 2017, 00:10
3 Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 3 05 Jun 2015, 10:58
Just as Martin Luther King motivated the public to explore 9 26 May 2016, 13:57
40 Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 46 26 Mar 2017, 23:56
Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 9 05 Apr 2012, 09:48
Display posts from previous: Sort by

# Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in

 new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics

 Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group and phpBB SEO Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.