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New post 06 Mar 2007, 15:53
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they started handing out dings, waitlists and acceptances a few weeks ago.

they'll call you (if you're in the US) if you're in. you get an email if you're waitlisted or dinged.



Hmmm.....! I have not heard of any GMATClubbers into Kellogg yet! They seem to be extra selective this year. Lotsa waitlisted candidates though!

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New post 06 Mar 2007, 15:55
I guess they are being extra selective to manage their Yield Rate! It seems lots of people put Kellogg as the backup school after H/W/S.

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New post 06 Mar 2007, 16:18
Thats strange. So early? I have my interview scheduled with an alumni next Thursday.

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New post 07 Mar 2007, 04:28
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Thats strange. So early? I have my interview scheduled with an alumni next Thursday.


They probably have a rolling process

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New post 07 Mar 2007, 07:28
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I guess they are being extra selective to manage their Yield Rate! It seems lots of people put Kellogg as the backup school after H/W/S.


If this is true then they may actually lose good candidates who would dont make it to H/s/W for some reason

A very narrow minded approach

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New post 07 Mar 2007, 07:49
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If this is true then they may actually lose good candidates who would dont make it to H/s/W for some reason

A very narrow minded approach


not necessarily. they just probably want to accept students that genuinely want to go to kellogg as one of their top choices, rather than just as a backup.

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New post 07 Mar 2007, 08:34
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If this is true then they may actually lose good candidates who would dont make it to H/s/W for some reason

A very narrow minded approach


not necessarily. they just probably want to accept students that genuinely want to go to kellogg as one of their top choices, rather than just as a backup.


Yes what I mean here is they might end up (again not necessarily in every case) refusing admit to a person who has just missed out on H/S/W by a narrow margin.


Most people would prefer H/S/W over Kellogg except for say location or personal reasons (like partner is also admitted in Kellog etc)

If you had gor admission to H/S/W and Kellogg would u choose Kellogg

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New post 07 Mar 2007, 08:47
i actually didn't apply to H/S/W.

i went to wharton undergrad and you couldn't pay me to suffer through that again.

my ex went to HBS, and while i can certainly understand and appreciate why people would want to go there, it definitely wasn't for me.

i work in marketing. i am not going to bschool to change careers, i love marketing. kellogg is the best in mktg so it makes sense for it to be my 1st choice.

which leads me to why i didn't apply to Stanford. it's not exactly a cake walk to get in and frankly, if i got in to Stanford and Kellogg, I'd go to Kellogg. so why bother applying to stanford?

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New post 07 Mar 2007, 09:17
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i actually didn't apply to H/S/W.

i went to wharton undergrad and you couldn't pay me to suffer through that again.

my ex went to HBS, and while i can certainly understand and appreciate why people would want to go there, it definitely wasn't for me.

i work in marketing. i am not going to bschool to change careers, i love marketing. kellogg is the best in mktg so it makes sense for it to be my 1st choice.

which leads me to why i didn't apply to Stanford. it's not exactly a cake walk to get in and frankly, if i got in to Stanford and Kellogg, I'd go to Kellogg. so why bother applying to stanford?


Okie I accept that u have very valid reasons for joining Kellogg

But what I mean is you are among the 20% of candidates who have genuine reason for choosing a particular B-school over probably higher ranked schools like (h-S-W)

But B-schools compete with other schools in terms of numbers (yield selectivity ) which affects thier rankings and percieved quality.

You cant ignore the fact that the b-school masses (70 to 80 %) would choose H/S/W over others

What i mean is that given this context dont you think that it is perfectly possible that some good students would be denied admission just for yield reasons.

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New post 08 Mar 2007, 09:32
Da...da...da..da.ding for me. Tis life. I have had interviews at Chicago, Ross, and UNC so hopefully I get one. Because I'm young, 24, and coming from non-profit, I wasn't sure if I would be able to get in an Northwestern. Then I saw on Admissions and BW some non-profit admits...and I realized I was in trouble. However, it looks like a ding from Northwestern is normal and I still have a shot at Ross (which is my top choice) we'll see soon.

Of course I got the news while I was in Mexico on vacation which was a bummer but made getting over it very easy

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Da...da...da..da.ding for me. Tis life. I have had interviews at Chicago, Ross, and UNC so hopefully I get one. Because I'm young, 24, and coming from non-profit, I wasn't sure if I would be able to get in an Northwestern. Then I saw on Admissions and BW some non-profit admits...and I realized I was in trouble. However, it looks like a ding from Northwestern is normal and I still have a shot at Ross (which is my top choice) we'll see soon.

Of course I got the news while I was in Mexico on vacation which was a bummer but made getting over it very easy


I'm sorry to hear this, but hey, you still got 3 more great schools on your list.

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Da...da...da..da.ding for me. Tis life. I have had interviews at Chicago, Ross, and UNC so hopefully I get one. Because I'm young, 24, and coming from non-profit, I wasn't sure if I would be able to get in an Northwestern. Then I saw on Admissions and BW some non-profit admits...and I realized I was in trouble. However, it looks like a ding from Northwestern is normal and I still have a shot at Ross (which is my top choice) we'll see soon.

Of course I got the news while I was in Mexico on vacation which was a bummer but made getting over it very easy


I feel for you. You will hear a good news from elsewhere.

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Da...da...da..da.ding for me. Tis life. I have had interviews at Chicago, Ross, and UNC so hopefully I get one. Because I'm young, 24, and coming from non-profit, I wasn't sure if I would be able to get in an Northwestern. Then I saw on Admissions and BW some non-profit admits...and I realized I was in trouble. However, it looks like a ding from Northwestern is normal and I still have a shot at Ross (which is my top choice) we'll see soon.

Of course I got the news while I was in Mexico on vacation which was a bummer but made getting over it very easy


Sorry to hear this
all the best for ur other options

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New post 08 Mar 2007, 20:08
Sucks that they dinged me on Tuesday - I just retook the GMAT and scored a 710 - blah lol.

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New post 08 Mar 2007, 20:43
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Sucks that they dinged me on Tuesday - I just retook the GMAT and scored a 710 - blah lol.


guys dont focus so heavily on the GMAT seriously it is just a stat for the school
if u break 700 i dont recommend taking it again...it is just a box to check off...focus on your essays, those are the MOST important, I have been learning more about how applications are assessed and it is overwhelmingly clear that alot of people focus on stats and forget about substance...if it feels any better I have a very close friend who had a 780 2 yrs more work ex than me and he didnt make it into any of the ultra elite's... the whole process is a crap chute, there is a lotta luck involved, write your essays as if you wanna be the reader and think, "this guy is the shit...i like him/her"

another thing...the one thing that pisses MBA's off the most (because everyone is on a high horse since they are in school, and think they are demi gods) is when u send emails with stats and ask em to evaluate you.
I did the same last year and didnt realize it isnt the right approach
when u contact people be smart about how you articulate your email, dont make it seem like u copy and pasted the email to 15 other people...FIRST YEARS CAN HAVE A HUGE SAY IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.... depending on the school.

You are being evaluated right from the get go, you never know when a second year who interviews you asks a first year if you knew him, and if he has a bad impression of you it may be that slight difference between a "maybe lets give him a shot" and a " nevermind...not good enough"

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New post 08 Mar 2007, 20:49
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If this is true then they may actually lose good candidates who would dont make it to H/s/W for some reason

A very narrow minded approach


not necessarily. they just probably want to accept students that genuinely want to go to kellogg as one of their top choices, rather than just as a backup.


Yes what I mean here is they might end up (again not necessarily in every case) refusing admit to a person who has just missed out on H/S/W by a narrow margin.


Most people would prefer H/S/W over Kellogg except for say location or personal reasons (like partner is also admitted in Kellog etc)

If you had gor admission to H/S/W and Kellogg would u choose Kellogg


I would choose Kellogg over Wharton. But I understand the whole H/S/W thing is hard to let go.

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Sucks that they dinged me on Tuesday - I just retook the GMAT and scored a 710 - blah lol.


guys dont focus so heavily on the GMAT seriously it is just a stat for the school
if u break 700 i dont recommend taking it again...it is just a box to check off...focus on your essays, those are the MOST important, I have been learning more about how applications are assessed and it is overwhelmingly clear that alot of people focus on stats and forget about substance...if it feels any better I have a very close friend who had a 780 2 yrs more work ex than me and he didnt make it into any of the ultra elite's... the whole process is a crap chute, there is a lotta luck involved, write your essays as if you wanna be the reader and think, "this guy is the ****...i like him/her"

another thing...the one thing that pisses MBA's off the most (because everyone is on a high horse since they are in school, and think they are demi gods) is when u send emails with stats and ask em to evaluate you.
I did the same last year and didnt realize it isnt the right approach
when u contact people be smart about how you articulate your email, dont make it seem like u copy and pasted the email to 15 other people...FIRST YEARS CAN HAVE A HUGE SAY IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.... depending on the school.

You are being evaluated right from the get go, you never know when a second year who interviews you asks a first year if you knew him, and if he has a bad impression of you it may be that slight difference between a "maybe lets give him a shot" and a " nevermind...not good enough"


I went from a 640 to a 710 so that is statistically significant...

My essays were solid, my GPA was awful. With a 710 I would have had a much better shot I am sure. Although I agree it is just a stat - it is an important one if you have a low GPA.

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New post 09 Mar 2007, 03:08
OasisNYK wrote:
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OasisNYK wrote:
Sucks that they dinged me on Tuesday - I just retook the GMAT and scored a 710 - blah lol.


guys dont focus so heavily on the GMAT seriously it is just a stat for the school
if u break 700 i dont recommend taking it again...it is just a box to check off...focus on your essays, those are the MOST important, I have been learning more about how applications are assessed and it is overwhelmingly clear that alot of people focus on stats and forget about substance...if it feels any better I have a very close friend who had a 780 2 yrs more work ex than me and he didnt make it into any of the ultra elite's... the whole process is a crap chute, there is a lotta luck involved, write your essays as if you wanna be the reader and think, "this guy is the ****...i like him/her"

another thing...the one thing that pisses MBA's off the most (because everyone is on a high horse since they are in school, and think they are demi gods) is when u send emails with stats and ask em to evaluate you.
I did the same last year and didnt realize it isnt the right approach
when u contact people be smart about how you articulate your email, dont make it seem like u copy and pasted the email to 15 other people...FIRST YEARS CAN HAVE A HUGE SAY IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.... depending on the school.

You are being evaluated right from the get go, you never know when a second year who interviews you asks a first year if you knew him, and if he has a bad impression of you it may be that slight difference between a "maybe lets give him a shot" and a " nevermind...not good enough"


I went from a 640 to a 710 so that is statistically significant...

My essays were solid, my GPA was awful. With a 710 I would have had a much better shot I am sure. Although I agree it is just a stat - it is an important one if you have a low GPA.


Yes I think with 710 u have a much better chance. Your profile sounds impressive

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New post 09 Mar 2007, 03:53
Do you know how long does it take Adcom to give final decision since completeness of interview at Kellogg?

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New post 09 Mar 2007, 03:57
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Do you know how long does it take Adcom to give final decision since completeness of interview at Kellogg?


Unpredictable I believe :lol:

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