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New post 17 Mar 2018, 06:06
A tricky question;
Decision taken by Companies can be weaken by showing any additional evidence impacting their revenue, IMO.
So Only B does the same.
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Kooclaka has 300mL cans, 300mL bottles, 500mL cans and 500 mL bottles.
Hospital patients stay in bed always, so they prefer large and reusable containers.
Either 500mL cans or 500mL bottles.
Kooclaka decides to go with 500mL bottles.

To weaken it, we need to show that 500mL cans are better. How?

A. All Kooclaka’s products are manufactured by the same manufacturer.

So, Nobody cares. Irrelevant.

B. The revenues from selling 500ml bottles are 5% less than for 500ml cans.

Shows that obviously cans are more profitable!! Done!

C. Kooclaka’s competitors sell only 500ml bottles in hospitals.

Good for you guys. But, so what? Irrelevant.

D. More 330ml bottles than 500ml bottles can be put in a vending machine.

That's good. But it does not compare the revenues. Maybe 300mL bottles are way too cheap, and moreover patients dont even prefer them. Loss of revenue, either way.

E. The average number of visitors is 2.3 per hospital patient.

That means the visitors may prefer 300mL cans. But, we still dont know how that affects the revenue stream. Maybe they may also like 500mL cans? Not entirely sure.

So, Answer is Option B.

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Kooclaka is a full-line vending business, which uses vending machines to sell cans or bottles of soft drinks and individual packages of snacks. When the management of Kooclaka considered whether to fill vending machines in hospitals with 330ml or 500ml cans or bottles, it decided to sell only 500ml bottles, because patients do not leave their beds very often, thus they prefer a larger, reusable bottle.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument above?
A. All Kooclaka’s products are manufactured by the same manufacturer.
B. The revenues from selling 500ml bottles are 5% less than for 500ml cans.
C. Kooclaka’s competitors sell only 500ml bottles in hospitals.
D. More 330ml bottles than 500ml bottles can be put in a vending machine.
E. The average number of visitors is 2.3 per hospital patient.


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Between B, D, E.

E -> This can be the choice if we know the preference of the visitors, but we don't.
D -> Same, the trick here is that, more 330 ML bottles are not preferred by patients. So, It may not lead to increase in revenue. It can, but given the same circumstance it might not. We require assumptions here.
B --> Correct, Unfortunately I missed the "bottles and cans" in the text and chose D. B makes more sense if we read carefully.

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Hi Expert,

Would you please elucidate why option B is correct? B says the revenues from selling 500ml bottles are 5% less than for 500ml cans, but there may be less demand for cans, since the argument clearly mentions the patients prefer bottle NOT can.
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Kooclaka is a full-line vending business, which uses vending machines to sell cans or bottles of soft drinks and individual packages of snacks. When the management of Kooclaka considered whether to fill vending machines in hospitals with 330ml or 500ml cans or bottles, it decided to sell only 500ml bottles, because patients do not leave their beds very often, thus they prefer a larger, reusable bottle.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument above?

A. All Kooclaka’s products are manufactured by the same manufacturer.
B. The revenues from selling 500ml bottles are 5% less than for 500ml cans.
C. Kooclaka’s competitors sell only 500ml bottles in hospitals.
D. More 330ml bottles than 500ml bottles can be put in a vending machine.
E. The average number of visitors is 2.3 per hospital patient.


Please explain your answer.
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Patients prefer a large reusable bottle because they can't leave bed very often..... 500ml cans are also reusable and they are good for profit making.... So Ans is (B). But mostly this is not a right question as it does not state the intent of the plan. whether to make profit or increase revenue or increase market share. So this is not a kind of question GMAT will give
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there is a typo in option B. 500 ml cans/bottles shall be compared with 300 ml cans/bottles.
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I think E is much better option than any other option. B talks about the revenue which is out of scope of the conclusion. Experts?
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Are we assuming in option B, that cans can be reused ?
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I think this question needs a comprehensive answer.

There is no mention of the profits. Also I know bottles can be reused,but can CANS be reused.So according to me B is out of scope but unfortunately B is the correct answer.
Please help.

IMO C . C provides an alternate reason .Since competitors were selling "ONLY 500ml bottles",this forced Kooclaka to sell 500ml bottles.
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What about option c, if the competition only sells 500 ml bottles, wouldn't that affect their sales of kooclaka ?

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What about option c, if the competition only sells 500 ml bottles, wouldn't that affect their sales of kooclaka ?

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I think this question needs a comprehensive answer.

There is no mention of the profits. Also I know bottles can be reused,but can CANS be reused.So according to me B is out of scope but unfortunately B is the correct answer.
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IMO C . C provides an alternate reason .Since competitors were selling "ONLY 500ml bottles",this forced Kooclaka to sell 500ml bottles.


Ok, guys. Start with what we do know. We must weaken the argument, so undermine the conclusion.

The arguments tell us

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Kooclaka is a full-line vending business, which uses vending machines to sell cans or bottles of soft drinks and individual packages of snacks.

Here, we do know that the company sells something. Just a premise. Who cares.............


When the management of Kooclaka considered whether to fill vending machines in hospitals with 330ml or 500ml cans or bottles, it decided to sell only 500ml bottles, because patients do not leave their beds very often, thus they prefer a larger, reusable bottle.

this is our central argument, the management can fill the machines with either with 330ml or 500 ml in cans or bottles (according to the argument is the same) BUT consider the patients buy them not so often is better to sell the bigger bottles; they (the patients because for logic is the only reasonable antecedents but also could be the company) prefer the 500ml bottles.




Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument above?

A. All Kooclaka’s products are manufactured by the same manufacturer. Easy.]This tells us nothing about how to weaken the argument. Completely off


B. The revenues from selling 500ml bottles are 5% less than for 500ml cans.

The entire argument rotates around the economic concept of convenience. Considering B we can have a 5% loss; if the company sells to the patients 500 ml in bottles rather in cans, they are more profitable in this last format.

C. Kooclaka’s competitors sell only 500ml bottles in hospitals. Easy. The competitors and what they do is not of our interest.

D. More 330ml bottles than 500ml bottles can be put in a vending machine. Easy. The option to fill more pieces in the vending machine do not tell us about convenience. Profit or loss in selling our cans or bottles in 300ml or 500ml.

E. The average number of visitors is 2.3 per hospital patient. Easy. The average tells us nothing about the argument and how to weaken it


Bottom line: stay close to the conclusion of the argument. Moreover, this is not, if we wanna be picky, a 700 level but the inferior level: 600/700.

Ask for further assistance.

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Thank you carcass for providing a detailed answer.

However I am still not clear as to where in the argument profit angle is talked about.We are assuming that argument revolves in terms of economic sense.Also you striked out C without providing enough explaination.
Also we are also assuming that CANS can be reused because in argument nowhere it is said that cans are reusable.

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The stem says exactly this

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When the management of Kooclaka considered whether to fill vending machines in hospitals with 330ml or 500ml cans or bottles, it decided to sell only 500ml bottles, because patients do not leave their beds very often, thus they prefer a larger, reusable bottle.


The company and its management goal is to sell via vending machine 330ml OR 500ml cans or bottles AND it took the decision to sell 500ml bottles because of the beds by patients are not so many.

What do you infer from this ?? the company wants to have what ?? a profit or it is a charity ??

Going to C.

The decision point is which format is better to sell. IF the company sells bottles it losts revenue in the order of 5%. As such, would be better to sell 500ml cans in the vending machine.

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B. The revenues from selling 500ml bottles are 5% less than for 500ml cans.


C talks about

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Kooclaka’s competitors sell only 500ml bottles in hospitals.


What company's competitor do is not OUR concern. Our goal is to decide IF the company is right selling 500ml bottles, and the answer (weaken) is NO. The company is wrong because of IF it sells those bottles, it will lose money in the order of 5%.

Make sense now ?? :-)

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Thank you carcass again. This time a big one though.

You should answer one last question ,which I already mentioned before,of mine.

We are still assuming that CANS are reusable . It is not mentioned in the question stem that cans are also reusable though it is said that the patients prefer 500 larger AND REUSABLE BOTTLES.

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is a good question from you. Two thoughts jump into my mind:

1) it is not an official question and in this regard, this question is an example of how the official material is unbeatable.
2) often students think too much and go too much farther, beyond what is stated.

Pick the right one and move on once you have understood why the answer IS the right one.

Your goal is to pick as many questions as you can in the allotted time. NOT to spot possible incongruences.

PS: please leave kudos, it is a vital rule of the board for those who help you in a consistent manner.
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ninja, to weaken a argument we expect that we choose a relationship between the premise and conclusion and not try only weakening the conclusion. in the question given, option B does not try to weaken the premise - reason for preferring 500 ml bottle by patients.

Please let me know how to understand this.
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Please explain E option.
I think that according to question premises, nowhere revenue profits are considered (though that is the goal of companies.). Here only patients in hospital are considered in premises. So option E considers visitors as well(and that too number >1) which calls into doubt whether visitors will prefer other varities.
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The problem with E is that it doesn't give us any reason to go against what the patients want. It doesn't say, for instance, that visitors prefer a small can. We don't even know whether visitors actually use the machines more, let alone whether they have some other preference. B, on the other hand, gives a competing consideration. It may not be very compelling (Go against hospital patients' wishes just to get a slight boost in per-unit profit? Really?!?), but at least it pushes against the bottle decision. None of the other choices do, except maybe D, but we don't know whether there is any benefit to stuffing in a larger number of bottles. Maybe the machines are refilled quite regularly, or maybe any loss in sales volume is made up for by greater profits.
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