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# Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four mil

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04 Apr 2018, 09:00
vishwajeet2015 wrote:

I have question regarding usage of 'as' in Option C.Use of 'as' without a verb/phrase is of a role player . eg: as a doctor
So, in that way : as Great Britain's land area
Is it incorrect for comparison ?

Hello vishwajeet2015,

I am not sure if your doubt still persists. Here is the explanation nonetheless.

In Choice C, as has been correctly used to present the intended comparison.

Basically, the verb is after as is understood in this choice because omission of this verb dose not lead to any ambiguity in the comparison.

Choice C has other flaws that makes this choice incorrect.

Hope this helps.
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19 May 2018, 08:23
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many

(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many

(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many

(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

"many of whom" is not a subject pronoun; it's a relative pronoun. it has EXACTLY the same grammar as plural "which".
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A. Chinese, the most ancient of living writing systems, consists of tens of thousands of ideographic characters, each character a miniature calligraphic composition inside its own square frame.

B. Chinese, the most ancient of living writing systems, consists of tens of thousands of ideographic characters, each of which IS a miniature calligraphic composition inside its own square frame.

1. Are both of the above sentences correct? In sentence A, the only verb that it's acceptable to omit is a form of "to be" (is, are, were, was, etc.). If we add a verb IS , then "each character is "... will make the sentence a RUN-ON . Also, the part "each character ..." is an appositive? Also, is there any difference between an appositive and a resumptive modifier?

2. Also, if the sentence has which then we can't omit the verb.

3.A Shopping at a thrift store, Becky found several designer items, some of which were worth hundreds of dollars.
3.B Shopping at a thrift store, Becky found several designer items, some of them were worth hundreds of dollars.

Are both the above sentences correct and convey the same meaning?

4. Laos has a land area that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north. -- here the part after COMMA+ but should be an independent clause ? Is there a parallelism issue here?

AjiteshArun , GMATNinja , mikemcgarry , egmat , sayantanc2k, RonPurewal , DmitryFarber , MagooshExpert ,ccooley ,GMATNinjaTwo , other experts -- please enlighten.

AjiteshArun wrote:
Hi Skywalker,

1.
(a) Yes, both seem fine.
(b) The each character a miniature calligraphic composition inside its own square frame bit is an absolute phrase (see here).
(c) If we go with each character is, we'll get a comma splice.
(d) An appositive involves a noun. A resumptive involves repetition of an element of the sentence (not necessarily a noun).

2.
(a) Both sentences seem fine.
(b) Yes, with some of which we cannot omit the verb.

3.
(a) No parallelism error that I can see. Let me know if there is something specific that has caught your eye.
(b) The part after but is an independent clause (many of them are members of hill tribes). The in Laos with a population of only four million people bit is only a modifier.

Hope this helps

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27 Oct 2018, 22:04
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Can we reject B and C on the basis of parallelism ?

But in Laos is not parallel to Laos so we can reject B and C
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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27 Oct 2018, 22:08
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Skywalker18 wrote:
souvik101990 wrote:
Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many

(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many

(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many

(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

"many of whom" is not a subject pronoun; it's a relative pronoun. it has EXACTLY the same grammar as plural "which".
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A. Chinese, the most ancient of living writing systems, consists of tens of thousands of ideographic characters, each character a miniature calligraphic composition inside its own square frame.

B. Chinese, the most ancient of living writing systems, consists of tens of thousands of ideographic characters, each of which IS a miniature calligraphic composition inside its own square frame.

1. Are both of the above sentences correct? In sentence A, the only verb that it's acceptable to omit is a form of "to be" (is, are, were, was, etc.). If we add a verb IS , then "each character is "... will make the sentence a RUN-ON . Also, the part "each character ..." is an appositive? Also, is there any difference between an appositive and a resumptive modifier?

2. Also, if the sentence has which then we can't omit the verb.

3.A Shopping at a thrift store, Becky found several designer items, some of which were worth hundreds of dollars.
3.B Shopping at a thrift store, Becky found several designer items, some of them were worth hundreds of dollars.

Are both the above sentences correct and convey the same meaning?

4. Laos has a land area that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north. -- here the part after COMMA+ but should be an independent clause ? Is there a parallelism issue here?

AjiteshArun , GMATNinja , mikemcgarry , egmat , sayantanc2k, RonPurewal , DmitryFarber , MagooshExpert ,ccooley ,GMATNinjaTwo , other experts -- please enlighten.

AjiteshArun wrote:
Hi Skywalker,

1.
(a) Yes, both seem fine.
(b) The each character a miniature calligraphic composition inside its own square frame bit is an absolute phrase (see here).
(c) If we go with each character is, we'll get a comma splice.
(d) An appositive involves a noun. A resumptive involves repetition of an element of the sentence (not necessarily a noun).

2.
(a) Both sentences seem fine.
(b) Yes, with some of which we cannot omit the verb.

3.
(a) No parallelism error that I can see. Let me know if there is something specific that has caught your eye.
(b) The part after but is an independent clause (many of them are members of hill tribes). The in Laos with a population of only four million people bit is only a modifier.

Hope this helps

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Can you please brief on the parallelism issue ?
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28 Oct 2018, 18:17
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Can we reject B and C on the basis of parallelism ?

But in Laos is not parallel to Laos so we can reject B and C
Please correct me if I am wrong.
We'll ignore the in Laos bit while checking the structure of the portion after but. For example:

That song was initially only somewhat popular, but in the last month, it has gone viral.

Here we're not (in terms of parallelism) looking at (a) that song and (b) in the last month. Instead, we're really looking at (a) that song was initially only somewhat popular and (b) it has gone viral (in the last month).

The comparison problem in option B is that B compares land area to Great Britain (a land area of about the same size as Great Britain is).
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30 Oct 2018, 20:23
We need to compare Laos Land area to land area of Great Britain
Only C and E are doing the same
C is wordy and uses them for population
whereas E is crisp and uses whom for population

So E is correct
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Hello Everyone!

This is a great example question you might find on the GMAT exam! Let's start by taking a quick look at the question, and highlight any major differences between the options in orange:

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

While it looks like there is a lot here that's different about each option, there are some things we can focus on to eliminate wrong options:

1. about the same / about the same size / comparable to the size / comparable to that
2. in population / a population
3. where many / and many / many of them / many of whom

Let's start with #1 on our list. If we look carefully, this has to do with parallelism! We need to make sure each sentence is comparing two items that are parallel in structure, type, number, wording, etc. Here is how each sentence handles the comparison between the land area of Laos and the land area of Great Britain:

(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
land area of Laos + the entire country of Great Britain = NOT PARALLEL

(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
land area of Laos + the size of Great Britain = NOT PARALLEL

(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
land area of Laos + land area of Great Britain = PARALLEL

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
land area of Laos + the size of Great Britain = NOT PARALLEL

(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
land area of Laos + land area of Great Britain = PARALLEL

We can eliminate options A, B, and D because they do not have parallel comparisons between the land areas of both countries!

Now that we have it narrowed down to only 2 options, let's take a closer look at each and determine which is the best option. To make errors easier to catch, let's add in the non-underlined parts of the sentence:

(C) Laos has a land area that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

This is INCORRECT for a couple reasons. First, there is a missing comma between "Laos" and "with" because the phrase "with a population of only four million people" was turned into a non-essential clause that needs to be surrounded by commas. Second, if we treat the phrase "with a population of only four million people" as a non-essential phrase, the pronoun "them" doesn't have a clear antecedent. Who is "them" referring to? It's not clear - and the GMAT requires that all pronouns have absolutely clear antecedents!

(E) Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

This is CORRECT! It compares the land are of Laos to the land area of Great Britain using parallelism, and the modifier that begins with "many of whom" is clearly referring back to "four million people," which makes sense!

There you have it - option E is the correct choice! If you know some of the tendencies of GMAT test writers, it's a lot easier to spot frequently used grammatical errors!

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03 Sep 2019, 03:42
hi guys.

""Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north."""

what if we use "who" instead of "many of whom" ... because I cannot recognize "population" which receive an action !?
just do something. can you explain

but in this question =

In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who = correct AND use who !
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
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04 Sep 2019, 05:32
In A, comma + where is used to modify population. This is incorrect.

In B, Laos has a land area
of about the same size as Great Britain is
We need comparison between two land areas so incorrect

In C, D same error as B

E no errors.

So E it is.

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many

(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many

(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many

(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

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05 Sep 2019, 22:29
Official Explanation:

Logical predication; Grammatical construction
The comparison in this sentence is between the land area of Laos and the land area of Great Britain, not between the land area of Laos and Great Britain. The phrase about the population of Laos is most clearly and efficiently expressed in an appositive using a relative pronoun to refer back to people rather than the more abstract population. Using this construction keeps the appropriate emphasis on the two main claims being made about Laos, one describing its land area and the other its sparse population.
A The comparison between land area and Great Britain is incorrect; where is an inappropriate referent to population, which does not designate a place.
B Inappropriate comparison between land area and Great Britain; the there is …construction is wordy and imprecise.
C The reference of them is unclear and the expression is generally awkward.
D The coordinating conjunction and gives undue emphasis to the claim that many of the people in Laos live in inaccessible places.
E Correct. The land area of Laos is correctly compared to that of Great Britain; whom refers appropriately to people.
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[quote="kenli"]Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain of the north.

(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many

(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many

(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many

(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

this is beautiful example of comparison.
when subject of the first clause is compared, problem is easy. I do not say this case here.
when the element in the object of the first clause is compared, we have a hard case. in this case, there are 2 ways of making comparison. the first way is simple, in which two nouns compared are shown explicitly.
the second way is hard. in this case only the subject of the second clause and helping verb is kept and no object of the second clause appear. if there is no helping verb, ambiguity arise because the second element can be the subject of the second clause or the second object in first clause. this is easy to understand but the trick is that we do not realize ambiguity quickly even we understand ambiguity. the cure is that ask yourself" is it object comparison". if yes, we are ready for ambiguity and can realize it quickly in the test room.

I want to show the way 2 of object comparison
Lao has an land area the same size as britain
first, ask " it is object comparison? " yes, it is. "land area " is in the object/complement of verb "has". so, we are ready for ambiguity. we need helping verb, "dose". if there is no "dose", "britain can be subject of object of the second clause.
above sentence can be understood as
Lao has an land area which is the same size as britain is.
but the intended meaning is
Lao has an land area the same size as britian does.(as the land area britain has)
so , choice a is ambiguous.

choice b is easy. "is" after Britain is wrong because we have no a form of to be in preceding phrase.

comparison in choice C is correct.

Lao's land area is the same size as Britain's land area.
this is correct.

comparison in choice D is good but the meaning is wrong. the meaning is not that land area of Lao is of the size of Britain . the intended meaning is that land area of Lao is the same size as land area of Britain. choice E means this.

the hardest point here is comparison in choice A. it is ambiguous. we understand this ambiguity easily but how to realize it quickly in test room require you to ask "is it object comparison".
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