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Mostly S-V agreement helped me get to answer. The subject is Their Compliance, which is singular so the verb should also be singular. A, C and D are out for the same reason.

Between B and E, requiring is correct as it modifies the laws.

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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

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Hi sayantan2ck,
...let me know what do you call compliance in grammatical terms? Is it a noun? I haven't seen much pronoun together with noun placed adjacently as in option A.
Let me know if structure wise the sentence is correct other than SV no agreement in option A in OG.
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Hello adkikani/Arpit,


I would be glad to help you resolve your doubt. :-)


The word compliance indeed is a noun. That is the reason why it can act as a subject in a clause.

Also, there is no issue in the expression of their compliance in Choice A. The pronoun their acts as a possessive pronoun that is followed by a noun. For example: my pen, your car, his project, her recipe, etc.

In Choice A, their compliance stands for the local shrimpers' compliance. Hence, choice A only one error - the Subject-Verb number disagreement error.


Hope this helps. :-)
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carcass sorry for tagging! I am trying to get an answer for a long time. Why B is the correct ans here? Requiring demands the use of subjunctive, right? Isn't "is protecting" wrong here "requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting" ?????

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Last week local shrimpers via which they said: hey turtle X is back. Until now all is ok.

Now the tough part: saying that their compliance with laws I.E. the obedience under certain laws is protecting the turtles.

A. is wrong because requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect is weird and protect seems that the nets protect the turtles itself not the local shrimpers

C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect - same reasons

D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting - to require and are protecting generate a sentence totally wrong. Reading it that way has no sense

E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting - same reasons

B. saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

Hope now is clear.

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If in C, protect was plural (protects). Would it have been correct? The OG answer says that "that require" is wordy and unnecessary, but that part sounds better to me. Again, assuming it didn't have the protect issue.


namrata88 wrote:
hi all,
i know this sub-verb agreement question.
But however i fail to understand the how the Subject is compliance here.
My question will sound silly,but please help me identify the main subject and main verb


Hi namrata88 / brandon7 ,

Welcome to GMATClub :)

Here I go:

1st Query:

Yes, in that case C would have been correct. But note that there is no reason to reject option B as well. So, a typical GMAT question will never have two such options at the same time. Hence, rest assured about that. :)

2nd Query:


Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

The clause after 'saying that' is an independent clause.

their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

Now, look at the above sentence, if you remove the fluff, you will find something as follows:

their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

Can you see the subject now?

Compliance is the subject and is protecting is the verb.

Let me know in case of any concern. :)
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Hi namrata88 / brandon7 ,

Welcome to GMATClub :)

Here I go:

1st Query:

Yes, in that case C would have been correct. But note that there is no reason to reject option B as well. So, a typical GMAT question will never have two such options at the same time. Hence, rest assured about that. :)

2nd Query:


Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

The clause after 'saying that' is an independent clause.

their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

Now, look at the above sentence, if you remove the fluff, you will find something as follows:

their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

Can you see the subject now?

Compliance is the subject and is protecting is the verb.

Let me know in case of any concern. :)


Hello abhimahna,


You have presented very crisp analyses here. Great job there.

However, I would just like to let you know that what follows saying that is not an independent clause. It is a dependent clause because the connector that always starts a dependent clause.

The connector that always associates with the clause that it starts. So essentially, after saying, we have a dependent clause that reads: that their compliance with laws... is protecting adult sea turtles.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Concept tested: SV agreement, Meaning.
Difficulty level: High
Illustration:
This question tests a very important aspect of meaning. First, we know
that the main verb in the underlined portion “protect” is wrong as the main
subject “compliance is singular. (Note that protect is not being used as a command
subjunctive in A. “be” is used as the command subjunctive).

According to this logic, A and C are wrong.
Now among B, D and E, “to require” indicates purpose of the law which is not the intended meaning
(please refer to the tip below). So, D and E are incorrect.
B is the correct answer.

Tip: “Laws to require” indicates purpose of the law, but “laws requiring indicates
contents of the law. While this might sound very obvious to natives, but non natives
might have to struggle to get this clearly. Consider the following examples.
1.Arms act is passed to discourage random public shootings. Correct
2.Arms act is passed to levy heavy fines on people who carry unlicensed
firearm. Wrong.

2 is wrong because the arms act is not issued to levy fines. It is issued to prevent
something by levying fines. So the correct option is B.





I am very thankful for this explanation... I was completely clueless about why D,E was rejected. I read so many posts but no one explained it so clearly as you did.
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compliance is singular
hence A C and D OUT
between B and E
IMO E
compliance to require is Idiomatic


Hi nitya,
Could you please explain how compliance being a singular will affect the outcome of the options A, C and D.

I have outlined the corrections which if correct would have made these sentences acceptable. Please correct me if I am wrong

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets to protect
B. I can't tell wat is wrong with the setence, but it doesn't sound right.
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets to protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets which are protecting
E. This is the right option.

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nitya34 wrote:
compliance is singular
hence A C and D OUT
between B and E
IMO E
compliance to require is Idiomatic


Hi nitya,
Could you please explain how compliance being a singular will affect the outcome of the options A, C and D.

I have outlined the corrections which if correct would have made these sentences acceptable. Please correct me if I am wrong

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets to protect
B. I can't tell wat is wrong with the setence, but it doesn't sound right.
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets to protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets which are protecting
E. This is the right option.



I'm not sure whether "to require" is a proper construction. I think B is the right one. I'll appreciate some explanation from the pros here...

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agreed with B

now I have one hypothetical Q

if there is protect(s) instead of protect in option C

which one to choose from? B or C?

B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect


NOTE: This Q is now @ OG 12#133
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Also for C to be correct, both compliance and protenct should both be either singular or plural...I'll choose B
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B

laws requiring ----> correct and for the use of "is"

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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

(A) requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
(C) that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
(D) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
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bigoyal wrote:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting


B.


Is that is incorrect in A?

I rejected A because of the usage of protect, it should be protects I think for singular (compliance)
If given a choice A with protects, will it be incorrect?
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting


I am not sure but does this sentence falls under the subjunctive mood? If yes, then I guess A is the correct one. I am kinda of confused. Any suggestions ?

Anyway whats the OA ?

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bigoyal wrote:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance (singular)with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting


Note: 'protect' needs the verb form for the subject 'compliance', so should be protects.

A, C, D are gone
D and E are gone for the "to require", which is incorrect.

Only B left

I think that is correct in A, only verb form of protect is incorrect.



Why did you rule out C.I think C is the ans.What is the OA?

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bigoyal wrote:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting


Lets get rid of middlemen as far as possible.

"They wanted to take credit for A saying that their compliance with B requiring C 'is' protecting D"

compliance is the subject in second half, so verb must be singular. either "IS protecting" (progressive) or "protects" (simple present)
thus, A, C & D out

Among B and E, "laws requiring .." is better than "laws to require"
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sudeep wrote:
bigoyal wrote:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance (singular)with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting


Note: 'protect' needs the verb form for the subject 'compliance', so should be protects.

A, C, D are gone
D and E are gone for the "to require", which is incorrect.

Only B left

I think that is correct in A, only verb form of protect is incorrect.



Why did you rule out C.I think C is the ans.What is the OA?


If you see in the second part of sentence, the subject is the 'compliance' that is singular and requires verb form 'protects', making C incorrect option.
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

Please explain your answers. Thanks.


B for me

D and E are out : distort the meaning.
require should modify laws. To require seems to ambiguously modify compliance
A and C are out : compliance ... + singular verb

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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to
take some credit for the resurgence of the rare
Kemp’s ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with
laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on
shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.


(A) requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on
shrimp nets protect
(B) requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets
is protecting
(C) that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp
nets protect
(D) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets
are protecting
(E) to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets
is protecting

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