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B is the correct answer.

Option E changes the meaning of the whole sentence.

Read the whole sentence carefully!

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Mostly S-V agreement helped me get to answer. The subject is Their Compliance, which is singular so the verb should also be singular. A, C and D are out for the same reason.

Between B and E, requiring is correct as it modifies the laws.

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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

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SV agreement
A) Laws ....... protect. Wrong
B) Compliance is protecting. Correct
C) Laws ........ protect. Wrong
D) Compliance are protecting??? Wrong. Plus, to require wrong usage.
E) to require wrong again.

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Why A is not correct? "Any expert opinion?"

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Why A is not correct? "Any expert opinion?"


Subject verb agreement problem.. Their compliance protect. singular subject, plural verb.

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Why A is not correct? "Any expert opinion?"


Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle,
saying that their compliance
with laws requiring
that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets
protect adult sea turtles.
Subject verb issue , same is the case with C

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Why A is not correct? "Any expert opinion?"


Subject verb agreement problem.. Their compliance protect. singular subject, plural verb.



Hi Sayantan,

If in A "protects" was given instead of "protect"...would A be correct then?

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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

Hi Expert,
I'm too much confused about this sentence correction. I'm also scared to ask this question, because nobody asked here what I'm going to ask regarding this question.
The correct sentence is:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.
So, the concise sentence is:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit, their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles.
Isn't it run-on sentence?
Thanks Expert...
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

Hi Expert,
I'm too much confused about this sentence correction. I'm also scared to ask this question, because nobody asked here what I'm going to ask regarding this question.
The correct sentence is:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.
So, the concise sentence is:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit, their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles.
Isn't it run-on sentence?
Thanks Expert...


Why did you omit "saying that" ?

Main clause:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take credit.

Now add the present participle modifier ( to depict how they took credit):

saying that xyz .... (xyz = their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles. (xyz is what they said))

Thus you see that that xyz is not an independent clause but a dependent clause within another present participle modifier. Thus two independent clauses are NOT joined by a comma as you mentioned.

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iMyself wrote:
nevergiveup wrote:
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

Hi Expert,
I'm too much confused about this sentence correction. I'm also scared to ask this question, because nobody asked here what I'm going to ask regarding this question.
The correct sentence is:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.
So, the concise sentence is:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit, their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles.
Isn't it run-on sentence?
Thanks Expert...


Why did you omit "saying that" ?

Main clause:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take credit.

Now add the present participle modifier ( to depict how they took credit):

saying that xyz .... (xyz = their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles. (xyz is what they said))

Thus you see that that xyz is not an independent clause but a dependent clause within another present participle modifier. Thus two independent clauses are NOT joined by a comma as you mentioned.

I want to add something more in this regard just to be sure that am i right or wrong.
If I normally write "their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles", then it is Independent clause, sure.
But in the original sentence (Last week local.....), if I ask myself that what is 'their', then I'll get my answer. Here, "their" is exactly ''shrimpers'', that means the second part is dependent on first independent clause, right?
Thanks...
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sayantanc2k wrote:
iMyself wrote:
Hi Expert,
I'm too much confused about this sentence correction. I'm also scared to ask this question, because nobody asked here what I'm going to ask regarding this question.
The correct sentence is:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.
So, the concise sentence is:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit, their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles.
Isn't it run-on sentence?
Thanks Expert...


Why did you omit "saying that" ?

Main clause:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take credit.

Now add the present participle modifier ( to depict how they took credit):

saying that xyz .... (xyz = their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles. (xyz is what they said))

Thus you see that that xyz is not an independent clause but a dependent clause within another present participle modifier. Thus two independent clauses are NOT joined by a comma as you mentioned.

I want to add something more in this regard just to be sure that am i right or wrong.
If I normally write "their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles", then it is Independent clause, sure.
But in the original sentence (Last week local.....), if I ask myself that what is 'their', then I'll get my answer. Here, "their" is exactly ''shrimpers'', that means the second part is dependent on first independent clause, right?
Thanks...


No, that is not correct - usage of pronoun has nothing to do with main clause / subordinate clause issue. I shall try to clarify further.

Example 1:
The shrimpers held conference, and their compliance protects sea turtles.
Here, there are two main clauses:
1. The shrimpers held conference. (subject: shrimpers, verb: held)
2. Their compliance protects sea turtles. (subject: their compliance, verb: protects)

Example 2:
The shrimpers held conference, and they said that their compliance protect sea turtles.
Here, there are two main clauses:
1. The shrimpers held conference (subject: shrimpers, verb: held)
2. They said that their compliance protects sea turtles.(subject: they, verb: said)
INSIDE the second main clause there is a subordinate clause, which is also the object of this second main clause: "that their compliance protect sea turtles." For this subordinate clause, subject = their compliance and verb = protect - "that" is the subordinating conjunction.

Example 3:
The shrimpers held conference, saying said that their compliance protect sea turtles.
Here there is just one main clause:
1. The shrimpers held conference (subject: shrimpers, verb: held)
Additionally there is a present participle modifier: "saying said that their compliance protect sea turtles."
INSIDE this present participle modifier there is a subordinate clause: "that their compliance protect sea turtles." For this subordinate clause subject = their compliance and verb = protect - "that" is the subordinating conjunction (as in example 2).

Let me know if you do not understand this.

(main clause = independent clause / subordinate clause = dependent clause)

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iMyself wrote:
Hi Expert,
I'm too much confused about this sentence correction. I'm also scared to ask this question, because nobody asked here what I'm going to ask regarding this question.
The correct sentence is:
Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.
So, the concise sentence is:
Local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit, their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles.
Isn't it run-on sentence?
Thanks Expert...



I want to add something more in this regard just to be sure that am i right or wrong.
If I normally write "their compliance is protecting adult sea turtles", then it is Independent clause, sure.
But in the original sentence (Last week local.....), if I ask myself that what is 'their', then I'll get my answer. Here, "their" is exactly ''shrimpers'', that means the second part is dependent on first independent clause, right?
Thanks...


No, that is not correct - usage of pronoun has nothing to do with main clause / subordinate clause issue. I shall try to clarify further.

Example 1:
The shrimpers held conference, and their compliance protects sea turtles.
Here, there are two main clauses:
1. The shrimpers held conference. (subject: shrimpers, verb: held)
2. Their compliance protects sea turtles. (subject: their compliance, verb: protects)

Example 2:
The shrimpers held conference, and they said that their compliance protect sea turtles.
Here, there are two main clauses:
1. The shrimpers held conference (subject: shrimpers, verb: held)
2. They said that their compliance protects sea turtles.(subject: they, verb: said)
INSIDE the second main clause there is a subordinate clause, which is also the object of this second main clause: "that their compliance protect sea turtles." For this subordinate clause, subject = their compliance and verb = protect - "that" is the subordinating conjunction.

Example 3:
The shrimpers held conference, saying said that their compliance protect sea turtles.
Here there is just one main clause:
1. The shrimpers held conference (subject: shrimpers, verb: held)
Additionally there is a present participle modifier: "saying said that their compliance protect sea turtles."
INSIDE this present participle modifier there is a subordinate clause: "that their compliance protect sea turtles." For this subordinate clause subject = their compliance and verb = protect - "that" is the subordinating conjunction (as in example 2).

Let me know if you do not understand this.

(main clause = independent clause / subordinate clause = dependent clause)

Actually, I added slightly different thing in my last comment. I added this because I did not get any 'subject' before "saying said that their compliance protect sea turtles.". Now, You put a subject (they) in your example 2. So, I get it.
Thanks brother for your cooperation.
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

Please explain your answers. Thanks.


A S/V do not agree in number.
B Correct.
C S/V do not agree in number.
D S/V do not agree in number.
E "To require" is incorrect because the infinitive of purpose does not make sense. The ultimate goal of the law is not "to require" but rather "to protect." The requirement is merely a byproduct of the law.

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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting correct
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting

We need participle so D and E out .
A has that which is not required .
C also has that and does not have participle. It makes compliance the subject of the clause. .
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Hi sayantan2ck,
I know you were trying to explain different concept here but from subject verb agreement point of view i think protects should be used in Eg 2 and eg 3.
Also let me know what do you call compliance in grammatical terms? Is it a noun? I haven't seen much pronoun together with noun placed adjacently as in option A.
Let me know if structure wise the sentence is correct other than SV no agreement in option A in OG.
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...let me know what do you call compliance in grammatical terms? Is it a noun? I haven't seen much pronoun together with noun placed adjacently as in option A.
Let me know if structure wise the sentence is correct other than SV no agreement in option A in OG.
WR,
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Hello adkikani/Arpit,


I would be glad to help you resolve your doubt. :-)


The word compliance indeed is a noun. That is the reason why it can act as a subject in a clause.

Also, there is no issue in the expression of their compliance in Choice A. The pronoun their acts as a possessive pronoun that is followed by a noun. For example: my pen, your car, his project, her recipe, etc.

In Choice A, their compliance stands for the local shrimpers' compliance. Hence, choice A only one error - the Subject-Verb number disagreement error.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Last week local shrimpers held a news conference to take some credit for the resurgence of the rare Kemp's ridley turtle, saying that their compliance with laws requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect adult sea turtles.

A. requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect
plural verb "protect" is not in agreement with the singular subject "compliance"

B. requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
Correct Choice

C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect
Same Error as A

D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting
Two issues here
First: "Laws to require..." it says laws are created in order to require TE devices on shrimps...which is pretty awkward.. it should saying that Laws require that the TE devices be on Shrimps
Second : "are" protecting - needs to be "is" protecting


E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting
Error one mentioned in Option D is killing this one as well
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Last week local shrimpers via which they said: hey turtle X is back. Until now all is ok.

Now the tough part: saying that their compliance with laws I.E. the obedience under certain laws is protecting the turtles.

A. is wrong because requiring that turtle-excluder devices be on shrimp nets protect is weird and protect seems that the nets protect the turtles itself not the local shrimpers

C. that require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets protect - same reasons

D. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets are protecting - to require and are protecting generate a sentence totally wrong. Reading it that way has no sense

E. to require turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting - same reasons

B. saying that their compliance with laws requiring turtle-excluder devices on shrimp nets is protecting adult sea turtles.

Hope now is clear.

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