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# Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of

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31 Jul 2011, 04:40
i have a doudt here.
lets see

Subjunctive has the next construction

subject + verb + that + subject + verb in simple form
or
subject + verb + subject + verb in infinitive

Example:
We urge that you leave now.
We urge you to leave now.

This Q can re-writting to the next
Legislation ... requires .... employers ......
Subject ........verb..........subject..........(and here we need use infinitive)

as i understood we have to use That in next construction

Legislation ... requires ..THAT.. employers ......
Subject ........verb.......THAT..subject..........(and here we need use infinitive without to)
BOT NOT
Legislation ... requires .... employers ....THAT..
Subject ........verb.........subject..........THAT..

This is the link where bb explaine subjunctive subjunctive-and-use-of-that-with-simple-verb-form-79606.html

Please could expert explaine this problem

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03 Aug 2011, 09:53
I also initially thought as C but going to explaination about in Jobs and for jobs I think it is A
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16 Aug 2011, 18:29
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３．Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

(A) for subjunctive mood: requires ......that x to be y.

a) is correct for subjunctive mood.
b) violet the subjunctive mood - requires + should is wrong.
c) omits that.
d) omits that.
e) omits that.
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16 Aug 2011, 20:55
Great Question. My answer was C initially because i skipped option A. But when i read is more carefully "A" make more sense. Lesson, don't skip a choice without reading it once
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18 Aug 2011, 01:12
+1 A

Idiom: "require of (noun) THAT (noun) (verb: subjunctive)"
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31 Aug 2011, 11:33
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３． Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

B - require ... that ... should - incorrect
C - pay in - not a correct idiom, should be pay for
D - awkward structure - a job was ... or is one (job) ...
E - jobs vs job

stuck between A, C- choose C. good to learn that "pay in" does not go well!
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20 Sep 2011, 09:41
maximus76 wrote:
In subjunctive construction
subject + verb (such as require) + that + subject + verb in simple form
However the construction in this question is
subject + verb (such as require) + subject + that + verb in simple form
swapping the subject and that -- "requires + of both public and private employers + that + pay be
shouldn't it be -- "requires + that + both public and private employers + pay
Is choice A acceptable? Can anyone explain?

Even I am confused here.
How can I say something like:

It is required of him that pay be ....

I can understand if one says something like:

It is required of him that he pay....
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03 Nov 2011, 07:25
Went for C, but TommyWallach says A so A..lol.. not really. He explained it really well
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03 Nov 2011, 21:41
I thought the answer was C... i really have to look up those subjunctives once again. they have been kickin my ass! lol
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24 Jan 2012, 16:50
subjunctive mood---> A is the answer
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25 Jan 2012, 07:48
got mired baba

someone give somewhat easy explanation
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10 Mar 2012, 19:30
Another way to look out this question

Legislation.......requires....... As legislation requiring something so it should be followed by THAT

Legislation......requires........that. In the middle modifiers are inserted for confusion.

Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
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21 Mar 2012, 13:59
(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are

I know answer choice A is correct, but it uses the "preposition + noun + verb-ing"

is this correct because the object of the preposition is jobs and not the "requiring of jobs"? In any case is this an OG problem? I was told in OG they rarely use that construction in a correct ans. choice.
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23 Mar 2012, 02:42
straight a............!!!!!!!!!
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23 Mar 2012, 03:24
was wondering between C& A. But C "says in jobs" should be "for". Hence answer is A
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12 Oct 2014, 01:12
rashminet84 wrote:
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(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are correct
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills parallelism problem (jobs...a job)
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are (pay in jobs?? not correct)
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills too wordy
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills parallelism problem (jobs...a job)

Your analysis for Options B and E are incorrect......

Option B is using 'that' (which is subjunctive mood) and is also using 'should' at the same time... Thats why it is incorrect.
Option E changes the meaning of the original sentence : to pay as much as X is slightly different from paying the same to both. Also demanding and requiring are two separate words and cannot be used interchangeably
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22 Jan 2015, 12:47
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Hey All,

A lot of conversation here, but no one has yet really gone through it piece by piece and explained what the heck is going on. I'll be that guy!

The verb "to require" can function in two ways. The first is passive: "Something is required TO do something". In this format, we have the passive voice of required. You can't go active (It's not allowed to say "He requires you to do something."), and you have to use the infinitive form of the subordinate verb. THE OTHER version of the verb "to require" is active, and forms the subjunctive of demand (We call them bossy verbs). Bossy verbs always form the same way:

BOSSY VERB CONSTRUCTION: HE demanded THAT Sheila dance.
subject normal verb always have "that" Object verb in the subjunctive

The verb in the subjunctive may be tough to recognize. However, the typical present tense form that goes with the subject "Sheila" is "dances". The subjunctive is generally formed by taking the infinitive form of the verb ("to dance") and removing the "to".

Okay. Now let's look at the question.

３． Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
ANSWER: Here we have "requires" in the active voice, so we need the bossy verb construction. We get the THAT we need, then the object "pay", then the subjunctive form "be" (it's the infinitive "to be" without the "to"). Looks good!

(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
PROBLEM: YOU NEVER USE SHOULD in a subjunctive construction. In fact, should gets used SO OFTEN in these types of questions, that it's worth noticing it in all the sentences you look at. Often, it signals a bossy verb subjunctive construction that you might not have noticed otherwise!

(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
PROBLEM: The "to" is wrong for the subjunctive construction. Also "in jobs" is an incorrect idiom. It should be "for jobs".

(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
PROBLEM: The "to" is wrong for the subjunctive construction. Also the parallelism is wrong. The wrong two things are being compared.

(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
PROBLEM: The "to" is wrong for the subjunctive construction. "Jobs" and "a job" aren't parallel.

Hope that helps!

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３． Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

Please have a closer look at option A :

that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are

That(RP) modifies the immediately preceding noun, which is SKILL in this particular case.
If that is the case then there is a problem with SVA because are is in plural form and skill is in singular.

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Hey All,

A lot of conversation here, but no one has yet really gone through it piece by piece and explained what the heck is going on. I'll be that guy!

The verb "to require" can function in two ways. The first is passive: "Something is required TO do something". In this format, we have the passive voice of required. You can't go active (It's not allowed to say "He requires you to do something."), and you have to use the infinitive form of the subordinate verb. THE OTHER version of the verb "to require" is active, and forms the subjunctive of demand (We call them bossy verbs). Bossy verbs always form the same way:

BOSSY VERB CONSTRUCTION: HE demanded THAT Sheila dance.
subject normal verb always have "that" Object verb in the subjunctive

The verb in the subjunctive may be tough to recognize. However, the typical present tense form that goes with the subject "Sheila" is "dances". The subjunctive is generally formed by taking the infinitive form of the verb ("to dance") and removing the "to".

Okay. Now let's look at the question.

３． Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
ANSWER: Here we have "requires" in the active voice, so we need the bossy verb construction. We get the THAT we need, then the object "pay", then the subjunctive form "be" (it's the infinitive "to be" without the "to"). Looks good!

(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
PROBLEM: YOU NEVER USE SHOULD in a subjunctive construction. In fact, should gets used SO OFTEN in these types of questions, that it's worth noticing it in all the sentences you look at. Often, it signals a bossy verb subjunctive construction that you might not have noticed otherwise!

(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
PROBLEM: The "to" is wrong for the subjunctive construction. Also "in jobs" is an incorrect idiom. It should be "for jobs".

(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
PROBLEM: The "to" is wrong for the subjunctive construction. Also the parallelism is wrong. The wrong two things are being compared.

(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
PROBLEM: The "to" is wrong for the subjunctive construction. "Jobs" and "a job" aren't parallel.

Hope that helps!

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thanks! this helped clear this issue up a lot in my mind.

So i guess it just comes down to that REQUIRE can be used in both the command subjective and the infinite form, that is why you cannot just eliminate the "TO BE"

Can you give me an example that would fit this sentence if REQUIRE was in the infinite form?
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