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Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are --> CORRECT
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills: Subjunctive + Should is always incorrect
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are Wrong ||ism.
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills Awkward
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills --> Jobs and Job comparison. Against the original meaning
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Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

Usually "that" will NOT jump noun. Could expert help to explain the relative pronoun "that" in this question?

Examples of relative clauses:
Hurricanes that are born off the coast of Africa often prove to be the most deadly.
Film that has been exposed to X rays often produces poor photographs.
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Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

Usually "that" will NOT jump noun. Could expert help to explain the relative pronoun "that" in this question?

Examples of relative clauses:
Hurricanes that are born off the coast of Africa often prove to be the most deadly.
Film that has been exposed to X rays often produces poor photographs.

The first "that" introduces a noun clause: legislation requires what? ... "that pay be the same..."

It does NOT, however, introduce a noun modifier to describe "pay". In other words, the "that" clause is the object of the verb "requires" and not a modifier describing "pay", so there is no issue with choice (A).
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Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.


The first "that" introduces a noun clause: legislation requires what? ... "that pay be the same..."

It does NOT, however, introduce a noun modifier to describe "pay". In other words, the "that" clause is the object of the verb "requires" and not a modifier describing "pay", so there is no issue with choice (A).


Hi GMATNinja, How about the second "that" in that sentence? Common sense, "that are usually held by men" should modify "jobs". However, the preceding noun "comparable skill" is placed before the relative pronoun "that".

Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
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Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are

(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are

(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills

(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
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hazelnut wrote:
Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.


The first "that" introduces a noun clause: legislation requires what? ... "that pay be the same..."

It does NOT, however, introduce a noun modifier to describe "pay". In other words, the "that" clause is the object of the verb "requires" and not a modifier describing "pay", so there is no issue with choice (A).


Hi GMATNinja, How about the second "that" in that sentence? Common sense, "that are usually held by men" should modify "jobs". However, the preceding noun "comparable skill" is placed before the relative pronoun "that".

Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

I think we sometimes get a little bit too rigid with noun modifiers, especially when they start with "which" or "that." In most cases, those modifiers will "touch" the noun being modified. But that's not an absolute rule: all modifiers just need to be as close as possible to the noun they modify -- or at least close enough to avoid any confusion about the meaning.

In this case, I see no problem at all. The phrase "that are usually held by men" doesn't just modify "jobs" in general -- it actually modifies "jobs requiring comparable skill." So the placement of "that are usually held by men" is completely fine here.

I hope this helps!
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Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
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