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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   03 Apr 2022, 04:20
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Even if I don't know the subtleties of idom usage, can I still score decent in SC?

This incidentally reminded me that "ability to" is listed as the first idiom in the (very limited but relevant) idiom list presented in our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana .

If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the idioms section.
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals [#permalink] New post   29 Dec 2014, 20:43
Hello.

In Option D:
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its temperatures to a narrow range,

or
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its temperatures in a narrow range,


Please suggest. Rest of the explanations are crystal clear. :)
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals [#permalink] New post   30 Dec 2014, 11:37
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Hello.

In Option D:
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its temperatures to a narrow range,

or
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its temperatures in a narrow range,


Please suggest. Rest of the explanations are crystal clear. :)


Temperatures to a narrow range is correct.. hope it helps .. :)
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   17 Oct 2018, 09:22
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Though I got the correct answer (D)

Why is (D) written as " ...... as do humans and other warm-blooded animals" and not "...... as humans and other warm-blooded animals do"?



Here's an OG question on a similar concept and the answer is (B)

More than 30 years ago, Dr. Barbara McClintock, the Nobel Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump," as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another.

(B) like pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another
(C) as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to others
(E) as do pearls that move mysteriously from one necklace to some other
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   17 Oct 2018, 09:39
A quick way would be to know ability of vs ability to

Ability of is incorrect.

A,C,E are out.

Like is not followed by a verb when used for comparison, hence B is incorrect.

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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   17 Oct 2018, 11:33
B. Researchers report that within a narrow range, the lotus has the remarkable ability to keep its temperature like humans and other warm-blooded animals do.

IMO use of like here is right as like is followed by a clause. Ability of lotus is compares with the same ability of humans and other warm blooded animals. This option is wrong because of meaning change with the wrong placement of " within a narrow range"

Experts, plz clarify my understanding on the use of like in the option.
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   17 Oct 2018, 11:47
DmitryFarber wrote:
"Keep its temperatures in a narrow range" is not necessarily wrong, but "keep . . . to" also works, so that's not a problem. However, notice that all fourof the incorrect answers can be eliminated for their use of "ability of." The correct idiom is "ability to."


But, Option B has an "ability to" present in it.

Are we not removing B because lotus has an ability to keep temperature like humans and other warm-blooded animals do.

It should be "as" rather than a "like" to compare actions.

Kindly correct me if i am wrong.
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   02 Jun 2019, 14:19
Experts... egmat GMATNinja EMPOWERgmatVerbal MartyTargetTestPrep is it correct to eliminate A,C,D solely on the basis I've highlighted below?

A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
C. Researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures to a narrow range, as humans and other warm-blooded animals can.
D. Researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability to keep its temperatures to a narrow range, as do humans and other warm-blooded animals.
Must be either plural "lotuses have" or "the lotus has" but NOT "lotus has" without the article. If singular, must be "its temperature" instead of "its temperatures." Also errors in the comparisons "like/as."


B. Researchers report that within a narrow range, the lotus has the remarkable ability to keep its temperature like humans and other warm-blooded animals do.
"like" used incorrectly to compare actions instead of "as"
"to keep its temperature" is nonsensical, it needs a description like "keep its temperature stable"

E. As humans and other warm-blooded animals can, researchers report that the lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperature in a narrow range.
Correct SV Agreement and use of "as" comparison.
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   03 Jun 2019, 01:46
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A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

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How do "warm-blooded animals" report? "warm-blooded animals" are not human-being. did you notice it?
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   03 Jun 2019, 11:44
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A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

energetics
How do "warm-blooded animals" report? "warm-blooded animals" are not human-being. did you notice it?


Asad -- you've pointed incorrect reason of the error , I feel you dont understand (the intended meaning of the sentence) and (the error) yourself
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   03 Jun 2019, 21:19
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A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

How do "warm-blooded animals" report? "warm-blooded animals" are not human-being. did you notice it?


Could you help me to understand the meaning?
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Error in option A is of incorrect modifier and incorrect idiom --researchers need not modify human and animals
(and even if we remove animals ...researchers need not modify humans ..no matter if they have the ability to report)

Intended meaning : researchers report cites a similarity between (ability of human and animals) and (ability of lotus)
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   03 Jun 2019, 22:53
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Did you understand what I mean in my previous comment? Did I say anywhere that "x modifies y" or something like that? Better if you explain what I mean in my previous comment, please!

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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 01:11
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Like Mr. X and Mr. Y, you will write in gmat club forum.
This will write is not only attributed to "you"; it (will write) is also attributed to Mr X. and Mr. Y
So, will write MUST be matched with Mr. X and Mr. Y, otherwise the sentence will be faulty construction.
Quote:
Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that.........

The verb report MUST be matched with "humans and other warm-blooded animals". Do, do you think that the verb report goes with "warm-blooded animals"? Is it possible to report by "warm-blooded animals". How "warm-blooded animals" report in real life?


gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
Asad wrote:
A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

How do "warm-blooded animals" report? "warm-blooded animals" are not human-being. did you notice it?


Could you help me to understand the meaning?
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Error in option A is of incorrect modifier and incorrect idiom --researchers need not modify human and animals
(and even if we remove animals ...researchers need not modify humans ..no matter if they have the ability to report)

Intended meaning : researchers report cites a similarity between (ability of human and animals) and (ability of lotus)
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 02:46
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Like Mr. X and Mr. Y, you will write in gmat club forum.
This will write is not only attributed to "you"; it (will write) is also attributed to Mr X. and Mr. Y
So, will write MUST be matched with Mr. X and Mr. Y, otherwise the sentence will be faulty construction.
The verb report MUST be matched with "humans and other warm-blooded animals". Do, do you think that the verb report goes with "warm-blooded animals"? Is it possible to report by "warm-blooded animals". How "warm-blooded animals" report in real life?



Are you saying sentence is incorrect because Animals do not possess the ability to report ?

As mentioned earlier, you approach to tackle this sentence is incorrect
Yes, Researchers modifying Human and animals is incorrect ...but not for the reason you are assuming
Like X and Y, researchers report that Z has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range. -- here also Researchers modifying X n Y is incorrect ...Intent is to compare X and Y to Z not Researchers ...not Reports .... not X's or Y's ability to report

I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 06:38
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A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
--> In this choice, the author mistakenly compare "humans and other warm-blooded animals" with "researchers". So, you can cross it this way.
--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too.


--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too. -- This is INCORRECT "way" :) but whatever floats your boat mate
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 08:05
Now it is your turn to prove that how this way is not the correct way!
gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
--> In this choice, the author mistakenly compare "humans and other warm-blooded animals" with "researchers". So, you can cross it this way.
--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too.


--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too. -- This is INCORRECT "way" :) but whatever floats your boat mate


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gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
A. Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers report that lotus has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
--> In this choice, the author mistakenly compare "humans and other warm-blooded animals" with "researchers". So, you can cross it this way.
--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too.


--> Another way: the word report doesn't go with "warm-blooded animals". So, you can cross it by this way, too. -- This is INCORRECT "way" :) but whatever floats your boat mate

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Sir, may I have your opinion here, please?
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 10:41
gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:
Like Mr. X and Mr. Y, you will write in gmat club forum.
This will write is not only attributed to "you"; it (will write) is also attributed to Mr X. and Mr. Y
So, will write MUST be matched with Mr. X and Mr. Y, otherwise the sentence will be faulty construction.
The verb report MUST be matched with "humans and other warm-blooded animals". Do, do you think that the verb report goes with "warm-blooded animals"? Is it possible to report by "warm-blooded animals". How "warm-blooded animals" report in real life?



Are you saying sentence is incorrect because Animals do not possess the ability to report ?

As mentioned earlier, you approach to tackle this sentence is incorrect
Yes, Researchers modifying Human and animals is incorrect ...but not for the reason you are assuming
Like X and Y, researchers report that Z has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range. -- here also Researchers modifying X n Y is incorrect ...Intent is to compare X and Y to Z not Researchers ...not Reports .... not X's or Y's ability to report

I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.

gmatns2018
Do you think that "Men and Women" is compared with "mice"?
Better if you shed more lights on your creative example (the highlighted one).
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Re: Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 11:02
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I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
gmatns2018
Do you think that "Men and Women" is compared with "mice"?
Better if you shed more lights on your creative example (the highlighted one).



here Flaw implies Error -- the example sentence is based on the structure of Statement 1

** I am not sure what is happening here but does seem like an ego play from your end ...n I'm ending it here
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Like humans and other warm-blooded animals, researchers [#permalink] New post   04 Jun 2019, 11:13
gmatns2018 wrote:
Asad wrote:

I hope you understand the flaw in the below sentence:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range.
gmatns2018
Do you think that "Men and Women" is compared with "mice"?
Better if you shed more lights on your creative example (the highlighted one).



here Flaw implies Error -- the example sentence is based on the structure of Statement 1

** I am not sure what is happening here but does seem like an ego play from your end ...n I'm ending it here

Quote:
Like Men and Women, researchers report that mice has the remarkable ability of keeping its temperatures in a narrow range

I think, there is NO error/flaw in your creative example, but you said there is a flaw. If you really find any flaw, you should explain because members are noticing here.
According to your previous comment:
If i consider Men as X, Women as Y and mice as Z, the comparison is going be held between "x and y" and "z" (according to your comments). But, my understand says: there is no chance to compare "mice" with "men and women". Correct me please.
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