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New post 04 Apr 2009, 11:54
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why not A or B?


because 'it' modifies the noun 'conception of the radio'. The conception of the radio is not the tool for communicating with a large audience, the radio is. So 'it' should modify radio and not 'conception of the radio'

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New post 15 Jun 2009, 00:32
yes...tha ans shud be C.
Reason: correct idiom is conceived of ........as
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New post 15 Jun 2009, 18:17
I would go with C.

A. Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is - This implies that the conception was the substitute for telephone, but actually it is the telephone that is the substitute and not the conception
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for provate conversation, but which is - but which is seems to modify conversation.
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become - seems to imply that the telephone has become the tool for public conversation
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is, - too wordy

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New post 27 Jun 2009, 10:29
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I would go with C too.

@gotomba: "it" refers to the radio.



How can you tell that "it" refers to the radio? Shouldn't it refer to the closest noun, telephone?


Well, the word "instead" in the sentence suggests that the second part of the sentence is the converse of the first part: "Macroni conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become...". We know that the second part will restate the function of the radio as a tool and in doing so will state a function opposite to the one mentioned in the first part of the sentence.

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New post 28 Jun 2009, 15:42
C seems best

Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is - It doesn't refer to Radio
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for provate conversation, but which is - but which not suitable
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become -No issues
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become - i think instead is required here
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is, - other than is Awkward

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New post 13 Oct 2009, 00:29
but OG in their explanation always mentions that "it" should always has a clear antecedent not an implied one

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Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for provate conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


It is C for me too.
A and B wrongly uses the tense with "is".
E changes the meaning

D uses "conceived X to be Y", which is wordy

C uses correctly (?) the idiom "conceived X as Y"

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Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for provate conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


C for me too
A : compare conception with telephone
B : but which ??? which has no clear antecedent
D and E : conceive of ... as is a correct idiom
C : although I am not comfortable with it, C is the best option

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New post 30 Apr 2010, 04:03
"conceive of st as st" is idiomatic. a,d,e out

"conception was as" in a is not idiomatic

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AM still puzzled as per the antecedent of "it" as used in the sentence:

"instead, it..." The explanation in OG12 says, "the pronoun 'it' positioned as the subject of the
final verb 'has become' refers back to 'radio'..."

Please any reason or rule of thumb why "it" could refer to radio unambiguously?
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New post 30 Jun 2010, 11:28
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become ----> There is a rule in grammar which says that pronoun in the subject position of clause 2 can refer to it (radio in clause 1). it cannot be used for "Marconi"

E.g Jim is working harder than Jack, as he wants the scholarship. ----> he refers to Jim (not Jack)

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AM still puzzled as per the antecedent of "it" as used in the sentence:

"instead, it..." The explanation in OG12 says, "the pronoun 'it' positioned as the subject of the
final verb 'has become' refers back to 'radio'..."

Please any reason or rule of thumb why "it" could refer to radio unambiguously?

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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


C for me. "it" correctly refers to the subject of the sentense which is radio.
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A, B out for wrong modifier.
D, E out for unidiomatic (conceived to be).

So, clear C.
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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


In (c) "Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become"
What "does that could substitute for the telephone" modify?
Does not "that" modify the moun preceding it?
Please clarify
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If anyone answers C, could you please explain the use of that and it?

Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become

Aren't noun modifiers such as which and that(when that is used to modify a noun) supposed to be placed right next to the noun they are modifying? I can see that 'that' is modifying radio from the context of the sentence, but I want to know more about the rules governing exceptions like this one.

I know that when two clauses are connected by a conjunction, you can use a pronoun to refer back to the subject of the first clause. In this case, Marconi is the subject which can not be represented by the pronoun it, so you may assume it is referring to radio. I remember running into several questions that are very unforgiving about the use of pronoun like this, so I am a bit puzzled about the use of it here. I don't recall any from top of my head, but I will post them if I come across another.

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In the above sentence, Conceived is used as a participle or as a verb?

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Verb - with Marconi as the subject.
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Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is - sentence reads like this "instead it is a tool for communicating with a large ..." <-Read this carefully, the sense is not clear.
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is <- We need a subject after But. Which is not a substitute.
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become - sentence reads like this "instead it has become a tool for communicating with a large ..." <- This makes clear meaning
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become <-This which wrongly refers to Telephone.
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is, <- ackward

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I have chosen C for this answer choice:

A. It was very wordy and awkward to start the sentence with "Marconi's conception." Moreover, I felt that the pronoun "it" is ambiguous because it could refer back to the conception or radio. Also, the verb "is" should actually be "has become" to show the evolution of the radio.

B. The use of "but which" is strange and I'm not really sure what "which" is supposed to refer to.

C. This sentence is clear. The pronoun "it" does in fact refer to radio and the verb "has become" indicates the change in the radio's usage.

D. "Which" refers to telephone - this is incorrect.

E. "Other than what it is" is confusing. Is this supposed to modify something? Also, this does not connect with the other part of the sentence "...precisely the opposite."

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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is- A tool is modifying a telephone when it should be the radio
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is-A tool is modifying a telephone when it should be the radio
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become- again which is modifying telephone when it should refer to the radio
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,-A tool is modifying a telephone when it should be the radio


I was wondering if people think that this is a legitimate way to go about answering this question?

In all these 4 wrong answer choices we have a modifier refering to the "telephone" making it seem as though Marconi is refering to the telephone as though it was used for mass communication when he is actually refering to the radio.
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