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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,

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D and E gone because of wrong idiom, -conceived of to be -

A gone because of -conception of as -

B is gone because of very ambiguous reference of - which - . -Which - should point to the radio as per the essence of the passage, but here, seems to point to the telephone or the conversation or a tool, every thing other than the radio.

C is the lone winner
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Hi Kinjal,

Thanks for posting your doubt here.

The modifier "a tool for private conversation" is a culprit in this choice. This modifier is intended for "radio", Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation. However, "it" (radio) has become just the opposite, "a tool for communicating with a large, public audience". This is the intended meaning of the sentence that is correctly expressed by Choice C.

Also, the use of "is" is not appropriate in Choice A. Use of simple present present tense makes this a universal fact. In choice C, "has become" clearly shows that what it was meant to be but what it has eventually become.

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A is just fine...


A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is

A is fine.. it clearly refers to Marconi’s conception

B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is

- what does which refer to here..

C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
- out , bad restrictive clause. Seems to indicate that private conversation could substitute for the telephone.

D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
- out, sentence has a different meaning. Seems to say that private conversation is a substitute for the telephone and which clause is also weird. No clear referrent...

E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,

- weird constructionl, other than what it is....

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A, D and E are out. Correct idiomn is "concieved of X as Y....." where X and Y are nouns or noun phrases.

Out of B and C, C is fare better.
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Does the pronoun modifier - that - always have to modify the noun just before it?

I like ground coffee from India that is very enticing

I believe this sentence to be correct although India may not be very enticing.

Should a pronoun always refer to the subject of the earlier sentence? Not necessarily, It may also stand for the object.

Last week the mail order company sent me a book on grammar; unfortunately it contained anything but grammar.

In this sentence, what does the - it - refer to? The mail- order company? Nay, far from it;

I believe that context is also in contention and not the structure alone.
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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

(A) Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private
conversation; instead, it is
(B) Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private
conversation, but which is
(C) Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the
telephone; instead, it has become
(D) Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the
telephone, which has become
(E) Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private
conversation, other than what it is,

Meaning : Marconi’s conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation and he thought radio as a substitute for telephone. But radio became a tool for mass communication

Option A) Holding option A
Option B) If we remove the modifier “a tool for private conversation”. The sentence becomes
“Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone but which is”
which replaces telephone and makes the sentence nonsensical.
Option C) Holding option C)
Option D) Same issue as that of Option B)
Option E) “other than what it is” is wordy and can be replaced with instead.

I am confused between Option A and option C)

Meaning analysis of Option A):
Marconi conceptualized radio as a substitute of telephone. Now the modifier “a tool for private
conversation” provides more information about telephone. “it” logically refers to radio.
tense is present for the second half – which seems ok as the statement is made in present tense.

Meaning analysis of Option C)
Marconi conceptualized radio as a tool for private conversation and radio could substitute for the telephone. “it” logically refers to radio.
tense is present perfect -> that seems ok as the radio has been working as a mass communication since inception.

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Hi,
I'm not an expert,but let me try.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
-- modifier error : "a tool for private conversation" is supposed to refer to radio

B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
-- same as option A

C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
-- This is our guy.Meaning is clear."it" refers to radio.

D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
-- not sure but i think it's an idiom usage;conceive of something as..;it is the radio,not telephone,that has become a device for public audience.

E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is
-- not sure but i think it's an idiom usage;conceive of something as..;modifier error : "a tool for private conversation" is supposed to refer to radio

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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


Go for C.

(A) Marconi’s conception of is wrong

All the usage of 'which' is wrong, B,D is out.

(E) 'other than what it is' is awkward

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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.


A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
----> "conception ...was as a subtitute" ---> extremely awkward! -->out

B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
--> "which" is too far away from "radio" which it modifies --> out
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
---> fine

D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
---> same problem to B

E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,
--> removing "precisely the opposite" leaves us with "what it is a tool for..." --> really awkward!

Btw, even if i'm not so sure with the idiom "conceive of sth as" ( this is probably idiomatic coz we have similar idiom " think of sth as") . I chose C by reasoning this way :)

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Answer C.

A: "Marconi’s conception" is not the "substitute for the telephone"
B: It is not clear if "which" refers to radio or telephone
D: "Which" refers to "telephone"
E: It sounds stranger than C.

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Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is] precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for provate conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,[/quote]



a it refers to conception and not telephone
b "but which" should just be "which"
c looks good
d to be is unnecessary, which modifies conversation when the sentence needs it to modify radio
e to be is unnecessary and sentence is weird

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IMO C

because it is emphasizing on "tool for private conversation" and not the telephone.
which is the opposite of "a tool for communicating with a large, public audience" as mentioned in the sencond part after ';'
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IMO B

Whatever conceived is contrasted in the other part of the sentence.

Eliminate AC : Instead can be used for replacement, not for contrast
Eliminate D: A, which(telephone) has become B - it represents transition from A to B, change in meaning.
Eliminate E: other than what it is - it (pronoun ambiguity) = telephone or tool?

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If anyone answers C, could you please explain the use of that and it?

Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become


conceived of X as Y- correct idiom. => only C and B are contenders.

Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become

radio as a tool that could substitute for the telephone -> this is the correct usage. But we may insert 'for private conversation' as a mission critical modifier. Read MGMAT SC advance chapters for this.

"It is used for radio". You can not use "it" for either tool or telephone.

Do not consider the pronoun ambiguity a hard and fast rule for the elimination.

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Hi E-GMAT,

Could you please explain the sentence structure of the above question listed below and the below listed queries.

Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,

My first query is that isn't "instead" makes the second clause a dependent clause.
Second is noun modifier "a tool for private conversation" isnt it correctly modifying a telephone as mention in option B rather than in C .
Third is in choice C . The what does that modifies ?

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Hi Nitinaka19,

Answer 1: The word “instead” does not make clause because it is an “adverb”. For example,

Slowly, he finished the hot chocolate.

This sentence is an independent clause. Yes, it starts with the adverb “slowly”. However, adjectives and adverbs do not make a clause a Dependent clause.

Answer 2: Well yes, in Choice B, “a tool for private conversation modifies “telephone”. However, Choice B is not incorrect for this modifier. It is incorrect for the use of “which”. Notice that “which” is preceded by a parallel marker “but”. Now this “which” clause is not parallel to anything in the sentence. That’s the error in Choice B.

Answer C: In Choice C, the “that” clause modifies “a tool for private conversation” because grammatically, that’s the entity that precedes the Relative Pronoun “that”. However, logically it modifies “radio” because the sentence says that Marconi conceived of radio as a tool…. This means radio = a tool for private conversation. So logically “that” refers to “radio” as well.

You can take a look at OG13#6 where another Noun Modifier (Verb-ed Modifier) grammatically refers to the preceding Noun Entity that in essence refers back to the Subject of the sentence.

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Can someone please explain the error in option B.

Hi JarvisR, B mentions: ....but which is...

Whenever we have this kind of structure (but which, and that, but that etc.), there has to be a corresponding parallel structure to the left of the conjunction (and/but).

In B, there is no corresponding parallel structure on the left hand side of but. Hence, B is not correct.
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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute
for the telephone, a tool for private conversation;
instead, it is
precisely the opposite, a tool for
communicating with a large, public audience.
(A) Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a
substitute for the telephone, a tool for private
conversation; instead, it is
(B) Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute
for the telephone, a tool for private
conversation, but which is
(C) Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for
private conversation that could substitute for the
telephone; instead, it has become
(D) Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for
private conversation, a substitute for the
telephone, which has become
(E) Marconi conceived of the radio to be a
substitute for the telephone, a tool for private
conversation, other than what it is,

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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.
1) Marconi’s conception (subject)………………..was (verb)
2) Phrase “a tool for private conversation” refers to telephone but it actually refers to radio
Marconi conceived of radio as a tool for private conversation but instead it is a tool for communicating with a large audience.
3) It is illogical to say that Marconi’s conception was as a tool……………


A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
Incorrect

B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
Again incorrect placement of the phrase ‘ a tool……….’

C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
‘that’ when used as a subject of the dependent clause refers to the closes noun but in this (I think) the usage is fine because ‘for private conversation’ cannot be logically placed anywhere else.
So that refers to tool. GMATNinja is this fine according to you?
Use of present perfect ‘has become’ is also fine because it’s still true. Radio is still a tool for private conversation.

Correct choice.

D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
Conceived to be is incorrect.
Conceive of someone or something as ………..is correct.

E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,
Incorrect for the reasons stated above.
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Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


we have two clauses separated by a semi-colon - and the second clause needs to be in contrast with the first.
Use of a transitional tag "instead" brings out the contrast..and has become says that radio, invented by Marconi, is still in existence.

C is the best

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