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Between the rankings from USN, BW, Forbes, FT, and QS; is there an "official" Top 10 MBA program? The top 5-7 is usually consistent but the rest differs with different rankings. Top 8-10 ranges from Michigan, Duke, NYU, Cornell, Berkeley, and Yale rounding off the top 10.

So are all these considered "top 10"?


There is no official ranking. Rankings themselves are rather meaningless, but people still look to look at them, so business magazines still make money off of publishing them.

I would say most people think in terms of H/S at the top, W almost at the top, then Booth, Columbia, Kellogg, and Sloan rounding out the "M7". All those school you mentioned (Ross, NYU, Fuqua, Cornell, Haas, Yale) are seen as great, would be put into their own tier.

Here's a repost from the Crowdsouced MBA rankings, where 20,000 people rated schools against one another: http://www.allourideas.org/topmbarankings/results

The Best:
Harvard - 89 (scores out of 100)
Stanford - 89

- Again, no debate - (unless you're BusinessWeek). The only reason either of these does not score 100 is because of the other.

Almost H/S:
Wharton - 81

- Clearly behind H/S, but clearly distanced from the rest of pack.

M7:
Columbia: 72
Northwestern - 69
Chicago - 69
MIT - 66

- These schools have all narrowed - they're clearly behind H/S/W, but clearly ahead of everyone else. At this point in the rankings, it seems like from a "which is better" perspective, what really matters is your personal preference on location, career, etc.

The "M9"?:
UC Berkeley - 56
Dartmouth - 52

- These two schools are consistent in outperforming the remainder of schools - however, still clearly behind the M7. Very steep drop off here.

Almost Elite:
NYU - 42
Duke - 42
Yale - 41

- BusinessWeek's #1 school is fallen to #11 here - meaning on average, there are 10 schools that people would rather go to. That said, Duke and Yale seem to be on their way up, while NYU seems to be heading down.

Almost Almost Elite:
UCLA - 29
UVA - 29
UMich - 27
Cornell - 22

The Rest of the Best:
CMU - 10
UT - 8

Full List
Harvard - 89
Stanford - 89
Wharton - 81
Columbia - 72
Northwestern - 69
Chicago - 69
MIT - 66
UC Berkeley - 56
Dartmouth - 52
NYU - 42
Duke - 42
Yale - 41
UCLA - 27
UVA - 29
UMich - 27
Cornell - 22
CMU - 10
UT - 9
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New post 27 Dec 2014, 22:54
Thanks for the reply but the Crowdsourced MBA ranking doesn't hold any weight in my book. I went to the webpage and took a look at the survey. The survey wasn't completed by 20K people but on 20K votes. In the time I took to take the survey, I think I casted over 50+ votes.
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OpsMBA wrote:
Thanks for the reply but the Crowdsourced MBA ranking doesn't hold any weight in my book. I went to the webpage and took a look at the survey. The survey wasn't completed by 20K people but on 20K votes. In the time I took to take the survey, I think I casted over 50+ votes.


Survey or no, there is no "official" ranking. The list still holds.

There's Harvard and Stanford.
Then there's the rest of the M7... Wharton, Columbia, Booth, Kellogg, Sloan
Then there's the best of the rest... Haas, Tuck, Duke, Ross, Darden, Johnson

At the end of the day, you should figure out what you want to do and find the schools that fit best for you and gives you the best shot.
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OpsMBA wrote:
Thanks for the reply but the Crowdsourced MBA ranking doesn't hold any weight in my book. I went to the webpage and took a look at the survey. The survey wasn't completed by 20K people but on 20K votes. In the time I took to take the survey, I think I casted over 50+ votes.


Survey or no, there is no "official" ranking. The list still holds.

There's Harvard and Stanford.
Then there's the rest of the M7... Wharton, Columbia, Booth, Kellogg, Sloan
Then there's the best of the rest... Haas, Tuck, Duke, Ross, Darden, Johnson

At the end of the day, you should figure out what you want to do and find the schools that fit best for you and gives you the best shot.


This, I think, is the gist of entire discussion. Rankings should be taken with a pinch of salt and one should really target the schools according to his/her profile and future goals. e.g. Check out this applicant; He had been admitted to both Wharton(with $$) and INSEAD but chose Insead over Wharton because of personal preferences. abhisheksahay
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I completely agree with your statement "At the end of the day, you should figure out what you want to do and find the schools that fit best for you and gives you the best shot."

Thanks!
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I am looking for high ranking US MBA, which is one year, not two year, long.

can you help me?

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I'm not sure if we're allowed to post external links or not. But poets & quants have an article with rankings about one year MBAs

http://poetsandquants.com/2012/07/10/gu ... -programs/
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it's from unemployed MBA graduate. I may sound bitter but potential students must beware of the ranking system.my MBA school always ranked high in ASEAN region under FT and stated 98% employed within 3 month of graduation. Yes our formal (convocation) is in august, but our courses completion is on december every year. That's 11 months unemployment!! i prefer the economist survey method than FT. FT just took the data the schools provided from school website (or what I was told so) but economist really sent their surveys to the students and alumni. My school decided not to publish the economist rank since 201x because the students and our alumni put a very low ranking during their recent survey. I suggest choose schools that rank consistently across the economist and FT. whichever schools that are high in FT, and low or disappear in the economist are suspects. My careers service focuses on "helping" the employers by profiling the students resume, meaning that you can "dream" on careers switch, but they will only "promote" certain individuals they like to the employers. This is as value add services to the employer (not for the students). Student fees are only to pay for their career "tuition" fee, not to help students to find jobs (really new jargon to me). Still unemployed for 4 months and was told by the career services that they will help to find out why I am so "unsuccessful". cheers (MBA graduate from the best business school in ASEAN).
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it's from unemployed MBA graduate. I may sound bitter but potential students must beware of the ranking system.my MBA school always ranked high in ASEAN region under FT and stated 98% employed within 3 month of graduation. Yes our formal (convocation) is in august, but our courses completion is on december every year. That's 11 months unemployment!! i prefer the economist survey method than FT. FT just took the data the schools provided from school website (or what I was told so) but economist really sent their surveys to the students and alumni. My school decided not to publish the economist rank since 201x because the students and our alumni put a very low ranking during their recent survey. I suggest choose schools that rank consistently across the economist and FT. whichever schools that are high in FT, and low or disappear in the economist are suspects. My careers service focuses on "helping" the employers by profiling the students resume, meaning that you can "dream" on careers switch, but they will only "promote" certain individuals they like to the employers. This is as value add services to the employer (not for the students). Student fees are only to pay for their career "tuition" fee, not to help students to find jobs (really new jargon to me). Still unemployed for 4 months and was told by the career services that they will help to find out why I am so "unsuccessful". cheers (MBA graduate from the best business school in ASEAN).


Thanks painful brother. I hope you find a job soon. But which could be the best Asian business school? I can only think of CEIBS, HKUST, National University of Singapore (NUS) and INSEAD Singapore campus, cant think of any other as the best.
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i once asked the career service on why their services doesn't stand on students side instead of standing on employers side. the students pay the students fee anyway and with so many students complaint for the past few years, it is understandable the students give low ranking to the MBA program whenever survey is done. the reply was "the students shouldn't give low ranking on the school on the survey because that will impact their career search". So it's fine for the school not performing but not Ok for students to give honest assessments.

To brainfrog: In this case I can't reveal which school I came from but I hope this help for future students in deciding their school of choice. On the other hand I must say your guess is somewhere there.
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I strongly believe that whichever article claimed to rank the school should come forward with their methodologies, not just plucking numbers from the school website and crunch them accordingly. So far I have never received anything surveys except from the economist. I suppose students and alumni should be surveyed to gauge for the fairness. In corporate world, which companies will tell the world that their numbers are bad and appear dysfunctional? you will probably go to their customers to ask for their products qualities and if you will buy again. ok enough sob story, gotta go back to look for job now.
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I find the widely variable rankings dizzying, so I tried to quickly simplify them. All I did was average rankings across the 5 sources (for US) and reorder. Not sure if they all "deserve" equal weight. Here it is:

Elite (Average rank between 3 and 5):
1) Stanford
2) Chicago Booth
3) Harvard
4) UPenn Wharton

Near-elite (Average rank between 7 and 12):
5) Columbia
6) NW Kellogg
7) MIT Sloan
8) Dartmouth Tuck
9) UC Haas

Great (Average rank between 12 and 18):
10) Duke Fuqua
11) Yale
12) UM Ross
13) UVA Darden
14) UC Anderson
15) NYU Stern
16) Cornell Johnson

There is a distinct drop off from the top 4 to the #5, then a slow decline from 5 through 16, and then another distinct drop for the rest.
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New post 05 May 2015, 04:24
Hello Fellas,

We have updated all rankings charts with latest US News Rankings. We have also included a separate chart showing top US MBA programs as per MBA specialization. You can also download all the ranking charts; see the attachment in main post.


US News 2015 Rankings: Top Gainers and Losers


Full Time Top gainers
  • Manderson-Alabama (+16)
  • Wake Forest (+13)
  • Rutgers (+12)
  • Texas A&M (+10)
  • Iowa State (+10)
  • Tippie-Iowa (+8)
  • Temple-Fox (+7)
  • Cox (+7)
  • Baylor-Hankamer (+7)
  • George Washington (+7)


Full Time Top Losers
  • Trulaske-Missouri (-21)
  • Moore-South Carolina (-19)
  • Krannert-Purdue (-13)
  • Louisiana State (-12)
  • Urbana Champaign (-12)
  • Lindner (-10)
  • Merage-Irvine (-8)
  • Eller-Arizona (-8)
  • University of Arkansas (-8)
  • UC Davis (-7)


Part Time Top gainers
  • Moore-South Carolina (+10)
  • Pamplin-Virginia Tech (+10)
  • Temple-Fox (+6)
  • Carlson (+5)


Part Time Top Losers
  • Arizona State (-9)
  • Olin-St.Louis (-8)
  • UT Dallas (-7)

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Hi guys!
I would love to know how INSEAD, LBS and IMD stand for in comparison with H/S and M7 or M9. What are your thoughts?

I've been thinking about it recently. My thoughts:

Harvard / Stanford

Wharton / LBS / CBS / MIT / Booth / Kellogg

Haas / Tuck / Fuqua / INSEAD / Ross / Stern

Yale / IESE / Judge / Said / IMD / Anderson / Darden / Johnson / HEC Paris / IE ...
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unemployedmba123 wrote:
it's from unemployed MBA graduate. I may sound bitter but potential students must beware of the ranking system.my MBA school always ranked high in ASEAN region under FT and stated 98% employed within 3 month of graduation. Yes our formal (convocation) is in august, but our courses completion is on december every year. That's 11 months unemployment!! i prefer the economist survey method than FT. FT just took the data the schools provided from school website (or what I was told so) but economist really sent their surveys to the students and alumni. My school decided not to publish the economist rank since 201x because the students and our alumni put a very low ranking during their recent survey. I suggest choose schools that rank consistently across the economist and FT. whichever schools that are high in FT, and low or disappear in the economist are suspects. My careers service focuses on "helping" the employers by profiling the students resume, meaning that you can "dream" on careers switch, but they will only "promote" certain individuals they like to the employers. This is as value add services to the employer (not for the students). Student fees are only to pay for their career "tuition" fee, not to help students to find jobs (really new jargon to me). Still unemployed for 4 months and was told by the career services that they will help to find out why I am so "unsuccessful". cheers (MBA graduate from the best business school in ASEAN).


Thanks painful brother. I hope you find a job soon. But which could be the best Asian business school? I can only think of CEIBS, HKUST, National University of Singapore (NUS) and INSEAD Singapore campus, cant think of any other as the best.

Only NUS has "98% employed within 3 months". However, FT ranks it 5th in Asia not 1st.
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Hello everyone,,

for the full time MBA rankings, which one is the most accurate or representative result? They look....very different from one another.
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Hello everyone,,

for the full time MBA rankings, which one is the most accurate or representative result? They look....very different from one another.


I wrote a post summarizing a few of the rankings:
mba-ranking-methodologies-what-is-really-important-200971.html

They have very different methodologies. I am critical of US News because it so heavily weighs reputation. The ranking is slow to adjust. Yale SOM will have to take some time to climb up the ranking even though the program is much better now than it was 10 years ago and is attracting better quality students. Booth, Tuck, and Darden seem to have happy students who rate their programs favorably (not factored at all in US News). That matters more to me, personally.
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New post 28 Oct 2015, 10:08
Economist 2015 rankings added to the main ranking tables in first post.

Here are Non-US Business schools featured in latest Economist rankings.

Top 10 Business School - Asia and Australasia



1 The University of Queensland Business School (Australia)
2 University of Hong – Kong Faculty of Business and Economics (Hong Kong)
3 Macquarie Graduate School of Management (Australia)
4 University of Melbourne – Melbourne Business School (Australia)
5 Nanyang Technological University – Nanyang Business School (Singapore)
6 Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad (India)
7 Hong Kong University of Science and Technology – HKUST Business School (Hong Kong)
8 National University of Singapore – The NUS Business School (Singapore)
9 International University of Japan – Graduate School of International Management (Japan)
10 S P Jain School of Global Management (Singapore)



Top 10 Business Schools - Europe



1 HEC School of Management, Paris (France)
2 INSEAD (France)
3 University of Navarra – IESE Business School (Spain)
4 IE University – IE Business School (Spain)
5 University of Warwick – Warwick Business School (United Kingdom)
6 ESADE Business School (Spain)
7 Henley Business School (United Kingdom)
8 London Business School (United Kingdom)
9 IMD - International Institute for Management Development (Switzerland)
10 EDHEC Business School (France)



Top Business Schools - Canada



1 York University – Schulich School of Business
2 Western University – Ivey Business School
3 Queen's University – Smith School of Business
4 Concordia University – John Molson School of Business
5 Ryerson University – Ted Rogers School of Management
6 HEC Montréal
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In the list pertaining to ranking based on the specializations, which rank depicts the specialization in strategy the most closely?
Also, could someone give a short gist on the specialization on Management.

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I would think it's most closely related to "Management" since four of the Top 5 in that column (Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Kellogg) are the top schools McKinsey, Bain, and BCG recruit at.
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What about UC Davis MBA program.
US news ranking is 48 but it did not appeared in 2015 FT ranking. Although, in 2014 FT ranked it 98 and Economist ranked it 60.
Can someone through some light on UC Davis reputation & credibility in US and across the globe.
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