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Solve this question in 45 seconds straight:

-->Read the sentence as : Medicare covers the full cost of HHC,_____
Just breeze through the modifier, especially when it is in the non underlined part of the portion of an SC.

Context Medicare covers for thing 1, but it does not cover for thing 2.

Now, you know that but/which are your only two possible answer choices.
Which refers to the noun preceded by the word which. Hence, based on the context, you can eliminate D,E without analyzing too much.

Move to answer choices A,B,C
A) use of the word 'where' has to point to a physical location.
B) -Ing form set off by a comma refers to the whole clause, the subject, or shows the result of the preceding clause. or to say it simply -ing form here would mean that because medicare covers the full cost of home health care it is making beneficiaries pay 20% of the cost. Doesn't make sense.
C) Which here differs from 'which' in answer choices D,E. It points to other non hospital services for which extra money is paid same as in D,E, however, the modified noun did not state what the sentence meant to say.
Hence this answer choice, unlike D,E, is contextually correct

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Why do you think that B is incorrect.
The united states government COVERS ,the full cost of hhc but not of x, ........--->we must use a word to imply an I ongoing action. A "must pay" poses as a rule.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Why do you think that B is incorrect.
The united states government COVERS ,the full cost of hhc but not of x, ........--->we must use a word to imply an I ongoing action. A "must pay" poses as a rule.

Please correct me if I am wrong.


IMHO. Choice B is a bit confusing. That is, the modifier can be taken to be modifying the entire clause. i.e It can mean something like "To cover the full cost for home health care but no hospital services, Medicare makes the beneficiaries pay 20%." As you see from the structure itself, this is not what the sentence wants to convey. The "paying 20%" modifier is meant for only "hospital services" and hence "which" or in this case "for which" is a better option.

This is my reasoning although I think an expert's opinion would shed better light.


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egmat wrote:
This is a good question, one that (yet again) exemplifies the importance of understanding the meaning of the sentence.

I will definitely help you with choice B, but before I do that, you need to answer a few questions about the original choice.
Medicare, the United States government's health insurance program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of home health care, but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.

1: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of home health care?
2: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of other non-hospital services?

Once you answer the above questions for choice A, then answer the same questions for choice B
Medicare, the United States government's health insurance program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of home health care but not of other non-hospital services, making beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs.
1: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of home health care?
2: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of other non-hospital services?
3: What makes beneficiaries pay 20% of the costs?

I will look forward to your responses.

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Since full cost of other non hospital services are not paid, beneficiaries need to pay 20% of the cost.. So I am not really sure why B is wrong.

Kindly help.
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Hi Payal/Verbal Experts,

Clarifications required on one question which has been buzzing in my head, though it may sound very naive.

Please point out which of the following statments are correct/incorrect, keeping in mind the different intended meanings. According to me, all of them are correct corresponding to their meanings.


1. You live only once.
My Thoughts : Correct. "Only" as an adverb modifies the verb "live". Meaning : Making a general statement that everyone lives only one time.

2. You only live once.
My Thoughts : Correct. Over here, "Only" modifies "You" instead of "Live". Meaning : Say if were talking to my friend Ram, I am telling him specifically that only you live once whereas a Cat has nine lives.

2. Only you live once.
My Thoughts : Correct . Reasoning same as Statement 2.

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egmat wrote:
This is a good question, one that (yet again) exemplifies the importance of understanding the meaning of the sentence.

I will definitely help you with choice B, but before I do that, you need to answer a few questions about the original choice.
Medicare, the United States government's health insurance program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of home health care, but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.

1: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of home health care?
2: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of other non-hospital services?

Once you answer the above questions for choice A, then answer the same questions for choice B
Medicare, the United States government's health insurance program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of home health care but not of other non-hospital services, making beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs.
1: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of home health care?
2: What does the sentence (original choice) tell us about Medicare coverage of cost of other non-hospital services?
3: What makes beneficiaries pay 20% of the costs?

I will look forward to your responses.

Payal


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Hi Payal/Verbal Experts,

Clarifications required on one question which has been buzzing in my head, though it may sound very naive.

Please point out which of the following statments are correct/incorrect, keeping in mind the different intended meanings. According to me, all of them are correct corresponding to their meanings.


1. You live only once.
My Thoughts : Correct. "Only" as an adverb modifies the verb "live". Meaning : Making a general statement that everyone lives only one time.

2. You only live once.
My Thoughts : Correct. Over here, "Only" modifies "You" instead of "Live". Meaning : Say if were talking to my friend Ram, I am telling him specifically that only you live once whereas a Cat has nine lives.

2. Only you live once.
My Thoughts : Correct . Reasoning same as Statement 2.

Please clarify
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We generally put "only" in front of the word or phrase we're modifying. The exception would be when we put it at the end of a phrase: "My band is in town for one night only." This is an expression, but it would still be correct to put "only" in front of what it's modifying--"one night." We put "only" at the end to show restrictions or limitations: "This album is for die-hard fans only," "This lane is for buses only," "Employees Only" (this would be on a sign and is not a sentence).

#1 You live only once.

"Only" modifies "once," which in turn modifies "live." It is saying that you live exactly one time.

#2 You only live once.

"Only" modifies "live." However, there isn't really a difference in meaning here, because "only once" was modifying "live' last time. As you've probably noticed these days with people posting "YOLO" everywhere, this is the preferred form for this expression.

#3 Only you live once.

*Now* we are modifying "you." Note that this means that you are literally the *only* one who lives once, at least in the context at hand.

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Medicare, the United States government’s health insurance
program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of
home health care, but not of non hospital services
,MAKING


The clause in GREEN is MAKING as per choice (B).

What is wrong in that?
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Medicare, the United States government’s health insurance
program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of
home health care, but not of non hospital services
,MAKING


The clause in GREEN is MAKING as per choice (B).

What is wrong in that?

As I have mentioned in my previous post, making should NOT modify the entire clause... The additional charges are ONLY for the non hospital services and not for the entire program..
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A. but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of
the costs must be paid by beneficiaries. "with" must be "of" in order to refer to "the full cost"; relative pronoun "where" should be used for tangible places

B. but not of other nonhospital services, making beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs. "making" should modify nonhospital services and not the entire preceding sentence; participle also attaches a meaning of cause and effect, so the modifier is illogical

C . but not of other nonhospital services, for which beneficiaries
must pay 20 percent of the costs. OK, "for which" is trap

D. which is unlike other nonhospital services in that 20 percent
of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries."which" creates an illogical comparison between costs of home health care and other nonhospital services; "of" is needed so that a proper comparison can be made

E. which is unlike other nonhospital services that make beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs "which" creates an illogical comparison between costs of home health care and other nonhospital services; "of" is needed so that a proper comparison can be made
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Medicare, the United States government’s health insurance
program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of
home health care, but not with other nonhospital services
where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.

A. but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of
the costs must be paid by beneficiaries. Not parallel.
B. but not of other nonhospital services, making beneficiaries
pay 20 percent of the costs. -ing form is not required
C . but not of other nonhospital services, for which beneficiaries
must pay 20 percent of the costs. correct choice
D. which is unlike other nonhospital services in that 20 percent
of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries. Which modifies 'healthcare'
E. which is unlike other nonhospital services that make beneficiaries
pay 20 percent of the costs. color=#ff0000]Which modifies 'healthcare'[/color]


The sentence should maintain parallelism between 'covers the full cost of' and 'but not of'
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Medicare, the United States government's health insurance program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of
home health care, but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.

A. but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.
B. but not of other nonhospital services, making beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs.
C. but not of other nonhospital services, for which beneficiaries must pay 20 percent of the costs.
D. which is unlike other nonhospital services in that 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.
E. which is unlike other nonhospital services that make beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs.


b is wrong because meaning is unclear, one type of meaning error. we do not know 20 percent of the costs,. cost for what? unclear
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Medicare, the United States government's health insurance program for the elderly and disabled, covers the full cost of home health care, but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries.

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Let us first understand the meaning of the sentence. Medicare is the US government’s health insurance program for the elderly and disabled. Medicare covers the full cost of home health care. However, it does not cover the cost of nonhospital services. Now, nonhospital services are services for which beneficiaries are required to pay 20% of the total cost.

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Error Analysis:

1. Use of “with” violates the parallelism in the sentence. The two entities in the list should be “the full cost of home health care” and “(the full cost) of other nonhospital services”.
2. Relative pronoun “where” is used to modify places. Use of “where” to talk about a service is incorrect.

POE:

Choice A: but not with other nonhospital services where 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries: Incorrect for the reasons stated above.

Choice B: but not of other nonhospital services, making beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs: Incorrect. Comma + verb-ing modifier “making” modifies the preceding clause “Medicare… covers the full cost…” and renders the meaning of the sentence illogical.

Choice C: but not of other nonhospital services, for which beneficiaries must pay 20 percent of the costs: Correct. “which” is the correct relative pronoun to modify “nonhospital services”.

Choice D: which is unlike other nonhospital services in that 20 percent of the costs must be paid by beneficiaries: Incorrect. This choice fails to establish the fact that Medicare does not cover the nonhospital services.

Choice E: which is unlike other nonhospital services that make beneficiaries pay 20 percent of the costs: Incorrect. Same error as in Choice D.

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1. Comma + verb-ing modifier always modify the preceding clause.
2. Relative pronoun “where” is use for places.
3. Be wary of choice that changes or distorts the intended logical meaning of the sentence.

Hope that helps.
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comma+verb-ing modifier can also present the result of the preceding clause.

We can infer from B that "medicare covers full cost of home health care but not of other non hospital services. As a result(making) beneficiaries are paying 20% of the total cost"

What is wrong in this?

Please explain

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Correct C

"Medicare, <modifier>, covers full cost of A, but not of , for which ..."
- Correct ||ism
- 20% for nonhospital service, so for which appropriately states the relation

Problem with B

"Medicare, <modifier>, covers full cost of A, but not of , <participial phrase>"

- "..making beneficiaries.." is a participial phrase [not an absolute phrase] referring to subject Medicare. Medicare as a whole does not make anyone pay 20%. meaning changed.
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Hi Experts, I have 2 questions:

1) Comma Usage before BUT: Here the usage - Medicare covers the full cost of X, but not of Y. I always see whenever there is COMMA + BUT, then there should be independent clause after BUT. But in this case, COMMA + BUT is used to connect two prepositional phrases. Why is the rule COMMA + FANBOYS should always be followed by IC valid here?

2) ING modifier: I understand in choice B that ING is modifying the previous clause. But the last portion of the previous clause also states - "But not of other nonhospital services" and that's why I marked B thinking that it is the previous clause. Can you explain a bit on why ING is wrong here?

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Hi Experts, I have 2 questions:

1) Comma Usage before BUT: Here the usage - Medicare covers the full cost of X, but not of Y. I always see whenever there is COMMA + BUT, then there should be independent clause after BUT. But in this case, COMMA + BUT is used to connect two prepositional phrases. Why is the rule COMMA + FANBOYS should always be followed by IC valid here?

2) ING modifier: I understand in choice B that ING is modifying the previous clause. But the last portion of the previous clause also states - "But not of other nonhospital services" and that's why I marked B thinking that it is the previous clause. Can you explain a bit on why ING is wrong here?

Thanks a lot for your help! I really appreciate it.
It's possible to join two clauses with a but without using a comma. It is also possible to use a comma with but when we're not putting a clause after the but. Have you seen this "rule" somewhere?
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