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IS here anyone , who can tell me the concept of "those of " . Help will be appreciated
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I'm just confused when to permit omitted words in comparison. For example:
Apples are more healthy to eat than caramels (are).
This example from Manhattan Sentence Correction shows that the omission is ok here. So if I change option B into this:
Mideast immigrants are exhibiting higher rates of entrepreneurship than every other immigrant group (is).
Would it be correct not to use those of in this situation?
If correct, what's the difference between than and exceed?
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IS here anyone , who can tell me the concept of "those of " . Help will be appreciated

“Those” is a pronoun – specifically a plural pronoun. Its singular equivalent is “that”, and you might find it helpful to read this entire post on the word “that”.

And check out this explanation above for more on what “those of” is doing in this particular sentence.

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I'm just confused when to permit omitted words in comparison. For example:
Apples are more healthy to eat than caramels (are).
This example from Manhattan Sentence Correction shows that the omission is ok here. So if I change option B into this:
Mideast immigrants are exhibiting higher rates of entrepreneurship than every other immigrant group (is).
Would it be correct not to use those of in this situation?
If correct, what's the difference between than and exceed?

There are no absolute rules when it comes to omitting words in comparisons. In general, it’s OK to omit words as long as the omission doesn’t cause any confusion. In both of your examples, my personal opinion is that the sentences are perfectly clear, regardless of whether you include or omit the extra verb.

You might also enjoy this post or this post or this post, all of which include discussions of when it’s acceptable to omit words in a comparison. But again, there are no absolute rules on this topic.

And if you really want a firehose of comparison content, check out this video and this sequel.

I hope this helps!
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E. The rates of Mideast immigrants’ entrepreneurship exceeds those of

In theory, I like the use of "those" as a pronoun in (E). In practice, it doesn't quite work. "Those" seems to refer to just "rates", and that gives us: "The rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship exceeds [the rates] of virtually every other immigrant group..." That's much less clear than the version in (C), which tells us that "immigrants from the Mideast exhibit rates of entrepreneurship exceeding [the rates of entrepreneurship] of virtually every other immigrant group..."

You could also argue that the possessive construction is less than ideal in (E). There's no good reason to write "the rates of immigrants' entrepreneurship" when (C) has a better, clearer way to say the same thing.

And best of all, there's a nice, clear subject-verb error in (E): "the rates [of... entrepreneurship] exceeds." That's a killer.

So (C) is our winner.

Hi GMATNinja, would you please clarify further this part? because I haven't gotten what you mentioned
in E, Those" seems to refer to just "rates", and that gives us: "The rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship exceeds [the rates] of virtually every other immigrant group..." That's much less clear than the version in (C), which tells us that "immigrants from the Mideast exhibit rates of entrepreneurship exceeding [the rates of entrepreneurship] of virtually every other immigrant group..."

in my opinion, these two "those of" in E, and C, are the same.

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E. The rates of Mideast immigrants’ entrepreneurship exceeds those of

In theory, I like the use of "those" as a pronoun in (E). In practice, it doesn't quite work. "Those" seems to refer to just "rates", and that gives us: "The rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship exceeds [the rates] of virtually every other immigrant group..." That's much less clear than the version in (C), which tells us that "immigrants from the Mideast exhibit rates of entrepreneurship exceeding [the rates of entrepreneurship] of virtually every other immigrant group..."

You could also argue that the possessive construction is less than ideal in (E). There's no good reason to write "the rates of immigrants' entrepreneurship" when (C) has a better, clearer way to say the same thing.

And best of all, there's a nice, clear subject-verb error in (E): "the rates [of... entrepreneurship] exceeds." That's a killer.

So (C) is our winner.

Hi GMATNinja, would you please clarify further this part? because I haven't gotten what you mentioned
in E, Those" seems to refer to just "rates", and that gives us: "The rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship exceeds [the rates] of virtually every other immigrant group..." That's much less clear than the version in (C), which tells us that "immigrants from the Mideast exhibit rates of entrepreneurship exceeding [the rates of entrepreneurship] of virtually every other immigrant group..."

in my opinion, these two "those of" in E, and C, are the same.

thanks in advance

Have a nice day

The good news is that we have a smoking gun in (E): "the rates [of... entrepreneurship] exceeds." That's a subject-verb error, so (E) is definitely out. The problem with "those of" in (E) is a bit trickier...

"The rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship exceeds [the rates] of virtually every other immigrant group..." Look at what's being compared: 1) rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship to 2) "[rates] of virtually every other immigrant group".

Taking a closer look at #2, what kind of rates are we talking about? Logically, we want to assume that "those of" refers to "rates of entrepreneurship", but we don't have that phrase in choice (E)! In (E), we can replace "those of" with "rates of", but we CANNOT replace "those of" with "rates of entrepreneurship". And it certainly wouldn't make sense to replace "those of" with "rates of Mideast immigrants' entrepreneurship".

In other words, (E) leaves us wondering, "rates of what?" Choice (C) avoids this issue by, instead, using the structure, "Group A exhibits rates of entrepreneurship exceeding [the rates of entrepreneurship] of virtually every other immigrant group..."

But again: there's a tasty subject-verb error in (E) anyway, so the finer points of the pronoun aren't all that important. :)

I hope that helps!
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A,B,D comparison error.
Rates vs. Other Immigrant Groups

E SVA error.

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