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New post 13 Oct 2010, 11:19
aiming4mba - here is an explanation why C is wrong.

In C the comma is inappropriate. It makes the clauses independent. Here the sentence should use X and Y

In E "where" keeps the parallelism correctly and also maintains the tense of X and Y
Also E is a superior parallelism compared with C.

Always go for superior parallelism.

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New post 01 Jan 2011, 04:24
(E)

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where
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Quick question, in sentences like one in the stem. That and where are modifiers right? Their functions are to replace the singular state or plural states?

Lets say, if where and that replace "states", does that mean the statement "there is a sizable of wolves" applies to all 48 states? I guess not. What's your say? Bunuel?

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Choice D woefully misses the conjunction that bridges Minnesota with the un-underlined part of the sentence, resulting in a debate as to what purpose the second part serves after separated from the main part, by a semicolon.

In B, doesn’t the pronoun where, by virtue of its placement, modify population, which is wrong?

Though wordy, by using where for both the parts of the sentence and also by employing the more customary population of wolves rather than the odd wolf population, E seems to stand out IMO


To add to this, for knocking out D, we have to understand that the semicolon in (d) separates its meaning into two unrelated sentences; i.e., the part of (d) that follows the semicolon suggests that the wolf is still the archenemy of the sheep in general. this is almost exactly the opposite of the intended meaning, which is that minnesota is the only state where that's still true!
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I had trouble in solving this question from OG10.

The reason for the trouble is, I was not able to establish parallelism between the clauses. So, I chose (C) but the correct answer is (E). Option (E) correctly establishes the parallelism between the two clauses, which start with "Where"

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There is a rule pervasive in many SC notes in which the phrases with "there is" have been flagged as incorrect. This is one of rare examples where "there is" has turned true, so this rule doesnt hold true.
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This is actually a monster question :
As per Ron on mGMAT forum :

"if it says the only one of..., then it's singular.
if it says only one of... (without the), then it's plural. "

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New post 03 Jun 2011, 08:34
E for me,
A,B,C are out coz 'where' represents a place and this fits in perfectly in the sentence.
D for me looks a bit disjointed when compared with E... The clause needs a connection with the sentence...
E is the only option left out...

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E it is.


First all we need "where" to point the place that is the subject in the question.

Btwn D and E , E shows a complete parallelism which is needed with the conjunction "and"


D is also gramatically correct,but what i thought conjunction is needed to bring the correct meaning.

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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

Which one is better sizable wolf population or sizable population of wolves.
Please explain the answer?


since in the sentence we have
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this predator
, so shouldn't it be wolf instead of wolves

Please explain me

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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

Which one is better sizable wolf population or sizable population of wolves.
Please explain the answer?


Meaning of the sentence:

1) Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population.
2) In Minnesota, this animal is the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that - contiguous forty-eight states is plural so we should have a plural verb after that.

Hence, A, B, C are out as "that still has a sizable wolf"
D: because of the ";" is changing the meaning of the sentence... making us feel "this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep." everywhere.
E: is parallel "where and where" and it conveys the right message.

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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
Incorrect, One of the x is singular but One of the x THAT is plural ... so plural verb have should be used instead of has ...

(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
Incorrect,

(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
Incorrect,

(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
';' is not needed ... second part of the sentence is not a complete clause

(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

Correct parallelism maintained ...

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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

A. that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
B. that still has a sizable wolf population, where
C. that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
D. where the population of wolves is still sizable;
E. where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where


E seems to be correct

A. that still has a sizable wolf population, and where---->lack of parallelism between "that" and "where". Also, "that" can't refer to a physical place.
B. that still has a sizable wolf population, where----> same as A. Also, "where" incorrectly refers to "population".
C. that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where-----> same as A
D. where the population of wolves is still sizable; Incorrect usage of colon. The two sentences should be connected by a connector such as "and".
E. where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where[/quote]
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A: that and where ----- not parallel.
B : Where is referring to wolf population
C: that and where ---- not parallel
D: The sentence after the Semi colon does not refer to Minnesota, which is the subject of the sentence.
E : where and where ------ parallel.
Hence E is the correct choice. Hope this helps.

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What's wrong with the semicolon usage in D?

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D. where the population of wolves is still sizable;

This sentence implies that the population of the wolves is sizable(verb).. Used as a verb the meaning is distorted... I initially thought semi colon dosent make sense here but now I'm not sure if the usage is justified or not..

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Between C and E , I chose E as it perfectly parallels where....where
A and B are out due to ambiguous modifier usage sizable wolf population. Is it population of sizable wolf or sizable population of wolves ?
D is clearly awkward and out.

E it is!
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stuck b/w D n E option
Why D is wrong

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Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

What does this refer to?


yeah I get that part - "this" cannot be referring to wolf population but should refer to the wolves. However, the earlier threads were saying that options A,B and C should contain "have" not "has", which I feel is wrong: "has" is completely correct. that's my point.

Focus on just this part:
Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population.

In the answer choices A,B and C, others were saying they are wrong because it should be "have".


I find a lot of this type of questions and sum that " one of ..... that + plural verb.

But I still do not clearly understand the word "this" because wolves are plural. It should be wolf or replace this with these


lol i just realised you were asking a question. I thought you were prompting me in my quest for an answer. no dude, "this" refers to a wolf as a species that is a predator.

Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

Referring to the correct answer above, the statement seeks to convey 2 things:
1. Minnesota has a sizable population of wolves AND
2. this wolf found in Minnesota is a predator and remains the archenemy of ...

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In ‘one of the plural + that construction, the ‘that’ is a relative pronoun for the noun before, namely, ‘states’ in this case, which is plural. So ‘that’ is also plural in character and takes the plural verb ‘have’ rather than ‘has’ as erroneously mentioned in A, B and C. Therefore, we can remove those three choices in one sleight
A semicolon connects two Ics that have some relationship. In D, the clauses stand aloof from each other. Therefore, D is inferior to E, which is well connected with a conjunction and which maintains the ‘where’ parallelism on both wings.


Hey, I'm not sure whether you understood my problem. Let me try to rephrase it:

I'm aware that if it says "only one of..." (without the in front of only) it's plural.

But I was under the impression that if it says "the only one of..." then it must be singular.

And in the the stem it says:

"Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep."

So it is not: "Minnesota is only one of the"... where it's obviously plural then




Can you find the error in my thinking here? Or maybe I am reading the sentence wrong. I don't know.


You are absolutely correct my friend. Hold on to that concept! However, the POE for A,B and C are based on parallelism as mentioned by other members in this thread.

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