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# Most present-day people would be shocked to learn that, in the early

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16 Mar 2016, 16:12
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Zarrolou wrote:
3) A recent report from the Bureau of Justice states although only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, approximately one out of every thirty two Americans are either in prison or on parole or probation.
A) although only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, approximately one out of every thirty two Americans are either in prison or on parole or probation.
B) that while less than a percent of the American population is in prison, one out of every thirty two Americans are either in prison, on parole, or on probation.
C) that although less than one out of every one hundred American people are in prison, more than three percent of Americans are either in prison, on parole, or on probation.
D) that while only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, one out of every thirty two Americans is either in prison, on parole, or on probation.
E) while only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, one out of every thirty two Americans is either in prison, on parole, or probation.

The p.m. asked about the structure "either in prison, on parole, or on probation." The question concerns whether the "either ... or" structure can be used for more than two elements. I would say that 99% of the time that "either . . . or" is used, it is used for just two elements, but it is perfectly fine to use it for three or more. Oxford's Practical English Usage is a source I like, and it gives the green light to 3+ elements with this structure. I think if we have an "A, B, or C" structure in which the elements are sizable, then the "either" helps to organize the information---more logical clarity is always a good thing.

Now, would the GMAT test this? Hmmm. First of all, I have never seen it on any official question. In fact, this is the only GMAT practice SC question I have seen to use it. I believe that, technically, "either A, B, or C" is legitimate, so I suppose there is an outside chance that it could appear on the GMAT, although I would bet that 1000 different people could take 1000 different GMAT's and never see it. This is something exceptionally rare.

Does all this make sense?
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16 Mar 2016, 16:18
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mikemcgarry wrote:
Zarrolou wrote:
3) A recent report from the Bureau of Justice states although only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, approximately one out of every thirty two Americans are either in prison or on parole or probation.
A) although only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, approximately one out of every thirty two Americans are either in prison or on parole or probation.
B) that while less than a percent of the American population is in prison, one out of every thirty two Americans are either in prison, on parole, or on probation.
C) that although less than one out of every one hundred American people are in prison, more than three percent of Americans are either in prison, on parole, or on probation.
D) that while only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, one out of every thirty two Americans is either in prison, on parole, or on probation.
E) while only a fraction of a percent of the American population is in prison, one out of every thirty two Americans is either in prison, on parole, or probation.

The p.m. asked about the structure "either in prison, on parole, or on probation." The question concerns whether the "either ... or" structure can be used for more than two elements. I would say that 99% of the time that "either . . . or" is used, it is used for just two elements, but it is perfectly fine to use it for three or more. Oxford's Practical English Usage is a source I like, and it gives the green light to 3+ elements with this structure. I think if we have an "A, B, or C" structure in which the elements are sizable, then the "either" helps to organize the information---more logical clarity is always a good thing.

Now, would the GMAT test this? Hmmm. First of all, I have never seen it on any official question. In fact, this is the only GMAT practice SC question I have seen to use it. I believe that, technically, "either A, B, or C" is legitimate, so I suppose there is an outside chance that it could appear on the GMAT, although I would bet that 1000 different people could take 1000 different GMAT's and never see it. This is something exceptionally rare.

Does all this make sense?
Mike

Thank you for the reply mikemcgarry.

I do agree that that such a construction and usage of "either...or" is not that common.
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20 Apr 2016, 02:19
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1)Most present-day people would be shocked to learn that, in the early twentieth century, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed pink clothes primarily to boys and blue clothes mainly to girls.

A)learn that, in the early twentieth century, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed pink clothes primarily --- They has no reference. Incorrect
B)learn that, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers in the early twentieth century, pink clothes were marketed primarily -- Correct. Use of "That". Modifier correctly placed
C)learn, in the early twentieth century when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, that primarily pink clothes were marketed - Misplaced modifier.
D)learn when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, in the early twentieth century, pink clothes, which were marketed primarily --- "That" is needed. Incorrect
E)learn, in the early twentieth century, that when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed primarily pink clothes --- They has no reference. Incorrect.

In option B , sentence is not parallel in 2nd part:pink clothes were marketed primarily to boys and blue clothes mainly to girls.

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summer101 wrote:
1)Most present-day people would be shocked to learn that, in the early twentieth century, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed pink clothes primarily to boys and blue clothes mainly to girls.

A)learn that, in the early twentieth century, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed pink clothes primarily --- They has no reference. Incorrect
B)learn that, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers in the early twentieth century, pink clothes were marketed primarily -- Correct. Use of "That". Modifier correctly placed
C)learn, in the early twentieth century when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, that primarily pink clothes were marketed - Misplaced modifier.
D)learn when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, in the early twentieth century, pink clothes, which were marketed primarily --- "That" is needed. Incorrect
E)learn, in the early twentieth century, that when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed primarily pink clothes --- They has no reference. Incorrect.

In option B , sentence is not parallel in 2nd part:pink clothes were marketed primarily to boys and blue clothes mainly to girls.

It is OK to omit repeated parts from the second element of a parallel structure as long as the meaning is clear.

Here the first element is: pink clothes were marketed primarily to boys
Second element: blue clothes (were marketed) mainly to girls

Since were marketed is the repeated verb, it has been omitted in the second element.
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For all their usefulness in facilitating comparisons between cities of different sizes, per-capita statistics, especially crime rates, often shine an unfairly harsh light on small towns, in which a single incident can cause such figures to skyrocket.

a. For all their usefulness in facilitating comparisons between cities of different sizes, per-capita statistics, especially crime rates, often
- correct as is

b. Despite they are useful in facilitating comparisons between differently sized cities, per-capita statistics, and especially crime rates, often
- "despite they" = incorrect. should be "despite the fact that they..." or "despite their usefulness" or something else. also, crime rates is a form of "per capita statistics", so the use of "and" = incorrect here (b/c you're not introducing another element to a list)

c. Because they are quite useful in facilitating comparisons between different sized cities, per-capita statistics, especially crime rates, can often
- "different sized cities" = incorrect. "differentLY sized cities = ok OR "cities of different sizes" = ok

d. Quite useful when facilitating comparisons between differently sized cities, per-capita statistics, and especially crime rates, which frequently
- same as "A" (the use of "and" = incorrect here).

e. For their usefulness in facilitating comparisons between different sized cities, per-capita statistics, especially crime rates, frequently
- same as "C" ("different sized cities" = incorrect. "differentLY sized cities = ok OR "cities of different sizes" = ok)

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Most present-day people would be shocked to learn that, in the early twentieth century, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed pink clothes primarily to boys and blue clothes mainly to girls.

(A) learn that, in the early twentieth century, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed pink clothes primarily

(B) learn that, when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers in the early twentieth century, pink clothes were marketed primarily

(C) learn, in the early twentieth century when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, that primarily pink clothes were marketed

(D) learn when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, in the early twentieth century, pink clothes, which were marketed primarily

(E) learn, in the early twentieth century, that when colored baby clothing was first widely distributed to North American consumers, they marketed primarily pink clothes

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The sentence introduces a curious fact from marketing history: at the broad introduction of colored baby clothes, in the early twentieth century, the color pink was mainly associated with baby boys and the color blue with baby girls.

(A) Logically, the pronoun they is intended to refer to the marketers of baby clothing, but no plural noun exists in the sentence to refer to the marketers. The present-day people wouldn’t be shocked to learn this fact if they were the ones marketing these clothes.

(B) CORRECT. The placement of when…in the early twentieth century after the word that is correct; this placement attaches the modifier to the following clause (they marketed). The sentence correctly places pink clothes were marketed primarily to boys and blue clothes (were marketed) primarily to girls in parallel.

(C) The placement of in the early twentieth century when…consumers before the word that is incorrect. This placement attaches the modifier to the preceding clause, illogically implying that present-day people could go back in time (to the early twentieth century) to learn this fact. Primarily pink indicates that the clothing was primarily (or mostly) pink, not that the clothing was marketed primarily to boys. The comparison no longer makes sense.

(D) The when colored…consumers modifier is incorrectly attached to the preceding clause, illogically implying that present-day people could go back in time (to the early twentieth century) to learn this fact. The portion after learn does not contain the necessary that + subject + verb structure (a correct example: she was shocked to learn that her company filed for bankruptcy). The rest of the sentence in this option is a fragment.

(E) The placement of in the early twentieth century before the word that is incorrect. This placement attaches the modifier to the preceding clause, illogically implying that present-day people could go back in time (to the early twentieth century) to learn this fact. Logically, the pronoun they is intended to refer to the marketers of baby clothing, but no plural noun exists in the sentence to refer to the marketers. The present-day people wouldn’t be shocked to learn this fact if they were the ones marketing these clothes. Primarily pink indicates that the clothing was primarily (or mostly) pink, not that the clothing was marketed primarily to boys. The comparison no longer makes sense.
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