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Mr. Janeck: I don t believe Stevenson will win the election

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Hi Karishma,

Request you to explain the question stem. Is it Inference question or Method of Reasoning?

Also, Can we say that Option E would have been correct if question had asked for the assumption that Mr Janeck's argument making?
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Mr. Janeck: I don’t believe Stevenson will win the election for governor. Few voters are willing to elect a businessman with no political experience to such a responsible public office.
Ms. Siuzdak: You’re wrong. The experience of running a major corporation is a valuable preparation for the task of running a state government.

M. Siuzdak’s response shows that she has interpreted Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply which of the following?
(A) Mr. Janeck considers Stevenson unqualified for the office of governor.
(B) No candidate without political experience has ever been elected governor of a state.
(C) Mr. Janeck believes that political leadership and business leadership are closely analogous.
(D) A career spent in the pursuit of profit can be an impediment to one’s ability to run a state government fairly.
(E) Voters generally overestimate the value of political experience when selecting a candidate


It is a good idea to first read the question stem. It prepares you to analyze the stimulus according to the question. Plus, in a complicated question, you don't have to go back and read the entire stimulus again (part of SWIMMER strategy of Veritas)

Here I first read the question: Ms. Siuzdak’s response shows that she has interpreted Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply which of the following?
I see there are two speakers. I know that Ms. Siuzdak interprets Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply something. Great, lets go ahead and read the stimulus.

Mr Janeck talks about the unwillingness of voters to elect a businessman without political experience to such a position.

Ms Siuzdak says, "You are wrong." and goes on to elaborate how experience of running a business prepares one to run the government.

When I read Ms. Siuzdak's response, I think, "She is interpreting an implication in Mr Janeck's remark. What is it?"
It does strike me as odd that he only mentioned how voters feel. He did not say that Stevenson was unsuitable for office while Ms. Siuzdak tries to convince him why Stevenson is suitable. She doesn't say something like, "You are wrong. Voters understand that the experience of running a major corporation is a valuable preparation for the task of running a state government."

Now I look at the options. It is pretty clear that she interpreted that Mr Janeck believes Stevenson is not suitable for office. (A) is the correct answer.
(D) is incorrect. The issue is experience here. Not how profit chasing affects the character of a person and makes him unsuitable for government office.
(E) is incorrect because she overlooked voters completely and responded to Mr Janeck as if he had said the following: "A businessman with no political experience should not be elected to such a responsible public office."

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Hi Karishma,

Request you to explain the question stem. Is it Inference question or Method of Reasoning?

Also, Can we say that Option E would have been correct if question had asked for the assumption that Mr Janeck's argument making?
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It's kind of an inference question (not conclusion though, inference as we know it in RC). You have to infer what Ms S inferred from Mr J's statement.

Say, forget Mr J's statement. Think of only Ms S's statement.

Ms S says 'You are wrong. Running a business prepares you for running a state.'

What do you think someone would have said to make Ms S reply like this? Something on the lines of 'Running a business doesn't prepare you for running a state.' Right?

So Ms. S inferred that Mr J is saying that Stevenson will not win the election because running a business hasn't taught him how to run a state. i.e. option (A)

Also whether (E) is an assumption of Mr J's argument -
Look at Mr J argument closely:
Mr. Janeck: I don’t believe Stevenson will win the election for governor. Few voters are willing to elect a businessman with no political experience to such a responsible public office.

Premise: Few voters are willing to elect a businessman with no political experience to such a responsible public office. (Premises are assumed to be true)

Conclusion: I don’t believe Stevenson will win the election for governor.

Assumption: No one can win an election with few votes.
(An assumption links the stimulus with the conclusion)

Mr J doesn't make any assumptions about voters - do they overestimate political experience, underestimate business experience etc.
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Was sure about A but picked E because of reference to voters which Mr. J introduces.

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation Karishma.
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I would vote for A. Here is my reasoning:
(A) Mr. Janeck considers Stevenson unqualified for the office of governor.
Correct. J doubts the experience (a businessman with no political experience) and qualification (a businessman) of the Steven. Clearly, J is not convinced about the qualifications of Steven.
(B) No candidate without political experience has ever been elected governor of a state.
An exaggerated answer. It is difficult to make out such an assumption from the given argument. After negating it, we get "At least one candidate without..". The argument does not provide any such information.
(C) Mr. Janeck believes that political leadership and business leadership are closely analogous.
Opposite Answer. J believes that a businessman need political experience to take part in the election for governor.
(D) A career spent in the pursuit of profit can be an impediment to one’s ability to run a state government fairly.
Exaggerated/Shell Game Answer. J believes that businessman can run for the post of a governor provided he has the political experience.
(E) Voters generally overestimate the value of political experience when selecting a candidate.
Voters are able to estimate correctly the value of political experience. "Few voters are willing to elect a businessman..."
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Ms. Siuzdak: You’re wrong. The experience of running a major corporation is a valuable preparation for the task of running a state government.
M. Siuzdak’s response shows that she has interpreted Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply which of the following?
(A) Mr. Janeck considers Stevenson unqualified for the office of governor.
(B) No candidate without political experience has ever been elected governor of a state.
(C) Mr. Janeck believes that political leadership and business leadership are closely analogous.
(D) A career spent in the pursuit of profit can be an impediment to one’s ability to run a state government fairly.
(E) Voters generally overestimate the value of political experience when selecting a candidate.
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Battle is between A & D

A is right choice here.
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Hi SOURH7WK , can you explain why A win the battle against D ?
I think A is more obviously drawn from the premises but D often more tentative deeper reason for Ms. Siuzdak's response
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I would have definitely gone with A if 'unqualified' was not the word. unqualified is too strong a word. Ms Siuzdak does not feel Mr Janeck thinks something disqualifies him from contesting for the office. Nothing disqualifies him. Its just that voters will feel he is incompetent to run a state


But I guess the OA is A. :|


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seekmba wrote:
Mr. Janeck: I don’t believe Stevenson will win the election for governor. Few voters are willing to elect a businessman with no political experience to such a responsible public office.
Ms. Siuzdak: You’re wrong. The experience of running a major corporation is a valuable preparation for the task of running a state government.

M. Siuzdak’s response shows that she has interpreted Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply which of the following?
(A) Mr. Janeck considers Stevenson unqualified for the office of governor.
(B) No candidate without political experience has ever been elected governor of a state.
(C) Mr. Janeck believes that political leadership and business leadership are closely analogous.
(D) A career spent in the pursuit of profit can be an impediment to one’s ability to run a state government fairly.
(E) Voters generally overestimate the value of political experience when selecting a candidate


It is a good idea to first read the question stem. It prepares you to analyze the stimulus according to the question. Plus, in a complicated question, you don't have to go back and read the entire stimulus again (part of SWIMMER strategy of Veritas)

Here I first read the question: Ms. Siuzdak’s response shows that she has interpreted Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply which of the following?
I see there are two speakers. I know that Ms. Siuzdak interprets Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply something. Great, lets go ahead and read the stimulus.

Mr Janeck talks about the unwillingness of voters to elect a businessman without political experience to such a position.

Ms Siuzdak says, "You are wrong." and goes on to elaborate how experience of running a business prepares one to run the government.

When I read Ms. Siuzdak's response, I think, "She is interpreting an implication in Mr Janeck's remark. What is it?"
It does strike me as odd that he only mentioned how voters feel. He did not say that Stevenson was unsuitable for office while Ms. Siuzdak tries to convince him why Stevenson is suitable. She doesn't say something like, "You are wrong. Voters understand that the experience of running a major corporation is a valuable preparation for the task of running a state government."

Now I look at the options. It is pretty clear that she interpreted that Mr Janeck believes Stevenson is not suitable for office. (A) is the correct answer.
(D) is incorrect. The issue is experience here. Not how profit chasing affects the character of a person and makes him unsuitable for government office.
(E) is incorrect because she overlooked voters completely and responded to Mr Janeck as if he had said the following: "A businessman with no political experience should not be elected to such a responsible public office."
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I would have definitely gone with A if 'unqualified' was not the word. unqualified is too strong a word. Ms Siuzdak does not feel Mr Janeck thinks something disqualifies him from contesting for the office. Nothing disqualifies him. Its just that voters will feel he is incompetent to run a state


But I guess the OA is A. :|




These are two different words:

Unqualified - One does not have the required qualifications e.g. required education, experience etc. One could participate say, in elections, even if people think one is unqualified if there are no rules requiring particular qualification.

Disqualified - One did not stick to the rules of the game and hence got disqualified e.g. for doping or slandering etc. One cannot participate after getting disqualified.

This question uses the word 'unqualified'.
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Mr. Janeck: I don’t believe Stevenson will win the election for governor. Few voters are willing to elect a businessman with no political experience to such a responsible public office.
Ms. Siuzdak: You’re wrong. The experience of running a major corporation is a valuable preparation for the task of running a state government.

The argument talks about 2 people arguing about a candidate. Janeck says that lack of political experience is a problem for Stevenson. Voters would not vote for such a person. Siuzdak says that running a corp is a training ground for running a govt

M. Siuzdak’s response shows that she has interpreted Mr. Janeck’s remark to imply which of the following?
(A) Mr. Janeck considers Stevenson unqualified for the office of governor.
(B) No candidate without political experience has ever been elected governor of a state.
(C) Mr. Janeck believes that political leadership and business leadership are closely analogous.
(D) A career spent in the pursuit of profit can be an impediment to one’s ability to run a state government fairly.
(E) Voters generally overestimate the value of political experience when selecting a candidate

My understanding is that Siuzdak thinks that Janeck is overestimating lack of political experience as a weak link. Hence I think it should be E.
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Aha! Karishma explained it very well..thanks!

It seems the voters are not part of the discussion for Siuzdak. So A is correct.
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Why can't the answer be E?

E clearly identifies the general perception among voters who consider POLITICAL exp. as the sole criteria in determining the worthiness of a candidate. Also,
her response conveys the same idea...
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Hi,

Can anyone pls help in explaining why D is wrong?

According to me, option D also questions the ability of the Mr. J to run for Governor.

Is option A correct because option D is generic in nature?

Experts pls advice.

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Rohitbhsya, the basic thing to realize here is that she says nobody will vote for someone without any *political* experience where is he responds that they will vote for someone with *business* experience.

So he's basically interpreting what she's saying as *experience* instead of *political experience.* The closest paraphase of this is that he believes she is stating that the candidate is *unqualified.* as in A.

She's not saying he's unqualified... she's just saying that voters are not going to vote for someone without political experience.

D is saying that he understood her as saying that having a business career is going to stop him from running a government in an equitable manner.

That claim is not vague at all it's quite specific and quite unfounded, especially when we deal fairness into the situation.

In sum, there's no one saying that a business career is going to keep him from doing a good job.

She's merely pointing out that the lack of political experience is going to keep him from being voteable.

The more specific the claim the more likelihood it is untrue and that is the case here. I hope this helps!

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a good question and a great trap.
A is the answer because of POE, and this is an inference question.
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