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24. Ms. Chambers is among the forecasters who predict that the rate of addition to arable lands will drop while those of loss rise.
(A) those of loss rise
(B) it rises for loss
(C) those of losses rise
(D) the rate of loss rises
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss
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"D" seems most obvious choice on two counts

1) the rate of xyz is singular.
2) E is redundant and B has unclear antecedent IT

pls feel free to correct me if i am wrong

D is certainly the choice.

But the reason of elimination of choices B is slightly off IMO.

1. B. There is no ambiguity about the antecedence of ‘it ‘. After all, the rate is the only singular noun on the text and it can not refer to any thing else and that is the right antecedent. One can not argue, it stands for addition becos, it makes no sense to say that addition rises for loss.

But B is wrong because of llism. The rate of addition uses an of preposition while it rises for loss uses a for preposition.
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The Rate is singular hence rise is wrong, rises is correct.

E is absolutely redundant and hence D wins.

D also maintains Parallelism.
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24. Ms. Chambers is among the forecasters who predict that the rate of addition to arable lands will drop while those of loss rise.
(A) those of loss rise
'those' has no reference
(B) it rises for loss
'it' has no reference
(C) those of losses rise
'those' has no reference
(D) the rate of loss rises
parallel and correct
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss
'there are rises' is wordy and redundant
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(A) those of loss rise
(B) it rises for loss
(C) those of losses rise
(D) the rate of loss rises
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss
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Ms. Chambers is among the forecasters who predict that the rate of addition to arable lands will drop while those of loss rise.
(A) those of loss rise
(B) it rises for loss
(C) those of losses rise
(D) the rate of loss rises
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss

Can some explain why the ans to this makes sense ..thanks.

"D" seems most obvious choice on two counts

1) the rate of xyz is singular.
2) E is redundant and B has unclear antecedent IT

pls feel free to correct me if i am wrong

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D is the grammatically right and the most clear.
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honchos wrote:
The Rate is singular hence rise is wrong, rises is correct.

E is absolutely redundant and hence D wins.

D also maintains Parallelism.

hi,

agrees 'the rate' is singular, but how in non underline portion 'the rate' is plural.
'the rate of addition to arable lands will drop'
drop is plural and is referring to 'the rate'

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No, "drop" is not plural here - the verb is "will drop" which may be singular or plural. "It will drops" is wrong.
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Hey guys.
Can anybody explain why we do not use future tense? lands will drop while the rate of loss rises

Thank you

This usage is called future conditional - such usage is also observed in if and when clauses:

If I eat Pizza, I shall fall sick.
I shall talk to you when I have time.

Similarly,
The rate of addition to arable lands will drop while the rate of loss rises.
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24. Ms. Chambers is among the forecasters who predict that the rate of addition to arable lands will drop while those of loss rise.
(A) those of loss rise
(B) it rises for loss
(C) those of losses rise
(D) the rate of loss rises
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss

D it is!!

The rate is singular. Immediately elminate A, C and E.
That leaves B and D. B has modifer problem, not clear what "it" is referring to. D is the winner.
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Picked D.

Seems like a parallel structure issue? That and the logic of the sentence didn't flow with the other answer choices.

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Ms. Chambers is among the forecasters who predict that the rate of addition to arable lands will drop while those of loss rise.
(A) those of loss rise
(B) it rises for loss
(C) those of losses rise
(D) the rate of loss rises
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss

Can some explain why the ans to this makes sense ..thanks.
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"D" seems most obvious choice on two counts

1) the rate of xyz is singular.
2) E is redundant and B has unclear antecedent IT

pls feel free to correct me if i am wrong

D is certainly the choice.

But the reasons of elimination of choices B is slightly off IMO.

1. B. There is no ambiguity about the antecedence of ‘it ‘. After all, the rate is the only singular noun on the text and it can not refer to any thing else and that is the right antecedent. One can not argue, it stands for addition becos, it makes no sense to say that addition rises for loss.

But B is wrong because of llism. The rate of addition uses an of preposition while it rises for loss uses a for preposition.

thanks very much... i always mess up when it comes to understanding the rules of how to identify whether IT refers to which antecedent

Can you help me with concrete check points which can give me an idea abt IT's antecedent ( if possible with example ) it will be a great help

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D is correct. the others don't refer to "rate of loss" correctly
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(A) those of loss rise Wrong - "those...rise" is not consistent with singular referent, rate
(B) it rises for loss Wrong - "for loss" is not structurally similar to "of addition"
(C) those of losses rise Wrong - "those...rise" is not consistent with singular referent, rate
(D) the rate of loss rises Correct
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss Wrong - inverted sentence structure is unneeded and not structurally similar to the "rate of addition"

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64. Ms. Chambers is among the forecasters
who predict that
the rate of addition to arable lands will drop
while those of loss rise.

(A) those of loss rise -> No antecedent for pronoun those
(B) it rises for loss -- > in comparison when ”it” appear with second entity it denote exactly the same antecedent in this case it refer to “the rate of addition” which makes nonsensical statement.
(C) those of losses rise --> same as choice A
(D) the rate of loss rises --> Correct (the Rate ... rises )
(E) there are rises for the rate of loss -- Wordy and unidiomatic
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Can someone explain the issue with timing in this sentence please?

Is it ok to use Future (will drop) with Present (rises) in this context? Is the part "while the rate of loss rises" already out of "prediction"?
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Vizy wrote:
Can someone explain the issue with timing in this sentence please?

Is it ok to use Future (will drop) with Present (rises) in this context? Is the part "while the rate of loss rises" already out of "prediction"?

Yes , it is an Idiom

X will rise , while Y rises
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honchos wrote:
The Rate is singular hence rise is wrong, rises is correct.

E is absolutely redundant and hence D wins.

D also maintains Parallelism.

Shouldn't it be " the rate of x will drop... while the rate of y will rise" and not rises? Thank you!
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