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# Museums that house Renaissance oil paintings typically store

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16 Jun 2008, 15:20
terp06 wrote:
OA is D.

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03 Dec 2009, 00:09
Museums that house Renaissance oil paintings
typically store them in environments that are carefully
kept within narrow margins of temperature and
humidity to inhibit any deterioration. Laboratory tests
have shown that the kind of oil paint used in these
paintings actually adjusts to climatic changes quite
well. If, as some museum directors believe, paint is
the most sensitive substance in these works
,
then by relaxing the standards for temperature and
humidity control, museums can reduce energy
costs without risking damage to these paintings
.
Museums would be rash to relax those standards,
however, since results of preliminary tests indicate
that gesso, a compound routinely used by Renaissance
artists to help paint adhere to the canvas, is unable to
withstand significant variations in humidity.
In the argument above, the two portions in boldface
play which of the following roles?
(A) The first is an objection that has been raised
against the position taken by the argument; the
second is the position taken by the argument.
(B) The first is the position taken by the argument;
the second is the position that the argument
calls into question.
(C) The first is a judgment that has been offered in
support of the position that the argument calls
into question; the second is a circumstance on
which that judgment is, in part, based.
(D) The first is a judgment that has been offered in
support of the position that the argument calls
into question; the second is that position.
(E) The first is a claim that the argument calls into
question; the second is the position taken by the
argument.

Can some one plzz tell me the approach to attempt boldface CR..
I mean i go numb after seeing this question
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03 Dec 2009, 00:44
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I choose D here.

Let's take a look at first bold.
If, as some museum directors believe, paint is
the most sensitive substance in these works
,
Notice, that it directors believe. It's not a position, nor an evidence, nor a claim, nor an objection. It looks like judgement.

First bold lead to second bold directly. First supports second clearly. The second looks like position.

museums can reduce energy
costs without risking damage to these paintings

However, further this position is called into question. (possible risk to painting occurs)

D captures all mentioned above

gurpreet07 wrote:
Museums that house Renaissance oil paintings
typically store them in environments that are carefully
kept within narrow margins of temperature and
humidity to inhibit any deterioration. Laboratory tests
have shown that the kind of oil paint used in these
paintings actually adjusts to climatic changes quite
well. If, as some museum directors believe, paint is
the most sensitive substance in these works
,
then by relaxing the standards for temperature and
humidity control, museums can reduce energy
costs without risking damage to these paintings
.
Museums would be rash to relax those standards,
however, since results of preliminary tests indicate
that gesso, a compound routinely used by Renaissance
artists to help paint adhere to the canvas, is unable to
withstand significant variations in humidity.
In the argument above, the two portions in boldface
play which of the following roles?
(A) The first is an objection that has been raised
against the position taken by the argument; the
second is the position taken by the argument.
(B) The first is the position taken by the argument;
the second is the position that the argument
calls into question.
(C) The first is a judgment that has been offered in
support of the position that the argument calls
into question; the second is a circumstance on
which that judgment is, in part, based.
(D) The first is a judgment that has been offered in
support of the position that the argument calls
into question; the second is that position.
(E) The first is a claim that the argument calls into
question; the second is the position taken by the
argument.

Can some one plzz tell me the approach to attempt boldface CR..
I mean i go numb after seeing this question
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06 Dec 2009, 07:05
+1 for D.

was caught up between C and D, but D wins here.

IMO, the basic thing here is to identify that the author of this argument is opposed to the said relaxation in standards. the IF, in the sentence containing the first bold face is the key word, that i missed initially. once you spot that, the argument falls in place.

what is the OA?
please let me know if i have assumed something wrong in here.
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07 Dec 2009, 12:36
Ans A for me.

I have no special strategy for the boldface CR. But one thing useful is to guess the roles the bold parts play in the reasoning before reading the answer propositions. So you have a preliminary picture of what the answer could be or not be.

You can also try to identify the premises, the conclusion, the hidden assumption(s) in the reasoning, the point the author is trying to make.
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12 Sep 2011, 22:14
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Hi,

I think this is the question adopted from OG. Though I have seen you post late (I started my preparation 2 months ago and now am intrested to work actively in this forum), I have some suggestions to offer in line with the question asked by you.

Facts: i have completed my OG verbal reasoning and I found that "minor type questions" which have "bold faced questions" as subtopic are also my weakness. But at the same time, I am practicing to improve on it. That made me see your post.

Opinion: I have started to love these questions since they challenge me every time but I have not mastered them. Also, these questions are time taking and you might not encounter more than one question on the real GMAT, do not focus much on these. However, you must not entirely forget them.

Conclusion: You must try to get the maximum information about these questions in less time.

My suggestion would be to go through the manhattan CR stretegy guide and then there is a trick given to plumb these questions. Initially by learning that, you wont be able to solve all the questions (my own assumption, may not be so) but then practice few more questions on GMAT forums and then I think you would start getting them.

By the way, I have been practicing these questions since last two days and I could not get this correct again after OG since I have not mastered.

But I wanted to offer the solution which I feel is right since I am facing the same problem and that's how I plan to uproot it.
(If you dont have manhattan, let me know. I can explain it to you)
Kudos for me if you like my suggestion.

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25 Sep 2011, 04:36
Hi guys ..

even i have the same problem with boldface questions but some time back i have found this amazing explanation on one of the GMAT forums. just check if it helps you

http://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/02/ ... ce-problem

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gunjan1208 wrote:
Hi,

I think this is the question adopted from OG. Though I have seen you post late (I started my preparation 2 months ago and now am intrested to work actively in this forum), I have some suggestions to offer in line with the question asked by you.

Facts: i have completed my OG verbal reasoning and I found that "minor type questions" which have "bold faced questions" as subtopic are also my weakness. But at the same time, I am practicing to improve on it. That made me see your post.

Opinion: I have started to love these questions since they challenge me every time but I have not mastered them. Also, these questions are time taking and you might not encounter more than one question on the real GMAT, do not focus much on these. However, you must not entirely forget them.

Conclusion: You must try to get the maximum information about these questions in less time.

My suggestion would be to go through the manhattan CR stretegy guide and then there is a trick given to plumb these questions. Initially by learning that, you wont be able to solve all the questions (my own assumption, may not be so) but then practice few more questions on GMAT forums and then I think you would start getting them.

By the way, I have been practicing these questions since last two days and I could not get this correct again after OG since I have not mastered.

But I wanted to offer the solution which I feel is right since I am facing the same problem and that's how I plan to uproot it.
(If you dont have manhattan, let me know. I can explain it to you)
Kudos for me if you like my suggestion.

Thanks,
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05 Oct 2011, 21:39
Stacey at beatthegmat make an article for this kind of question, in which the mode of attack is finding the conclusion and the relation of each bold phrase to the conclusion.

I wish to have 40/51 verbal but I never do bold phrase questions. why?. This question is at the end of the test and there are not many questions of this kind for practice.
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10 Jan 2012, 04:20
Between D and E I chose D as in the first BF an If is used which points at a judgement and the second BF has the position which should be taken if the judgement is correct hence D.
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17 Jan 2012, 17:44
thangvietnam wrote:
Stacey at beatthegmat make an article for this kind of question, in which the mode of attack is finding the conclusion and the relation of each bold phrase to the conclusion.

I wish to have 40/51 verbal but I never do bold phrase questions. why?. This question is at the end of the test and there are not many questions of this kind for practice.

For BF questions, take everything for granted, i.e., if it looks like a conclusion, don't question why it is a conclusion. Similarly, if something is stated as an assumption, don't question how can it be assumption.

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03 May 2012, 19:29
This one was a bit confusing at first because of the wording of D.
I was unsure and picked B as well. However " paint is the most sensitive substance in these works" is not a position taken on by the argument. The argument being that museum directors should not be rash ...
D is right because the first part is easily "yes" that's true. but the second part of D answer choice is referring to the position in the first part not the position of what the author had in mind.
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22 Jun 2012, 10:32
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Hi, I got a PM to respond to this one. I created a non polished video.. let me know if this helps...

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22 Jun 2012, 11:29
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Nicely explained ! Thanks!

Just wanted to make sure that "Position" and "Judgement" have the same meaning and that choice B is incorrect because it states that "Position taken by the argument" and not "Position taken by the directors of museum"
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22 Jun 2012, 12:28
D is correct choice here IMO...
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23 Jun 2012, 17:17
D.

The second bold statement is made basing on the first bold statement. The argument further provides details calling into question the position made in the second bold statement.

Only choice D clearly states the nature of these statements.
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Great question monsoon1. Position and Judgement can be interchanged in certain scenarios because they are quite inter-related. You take a position on something based on your judgement. for example: I support Obama (my position) because in my opinion (judgement) he is better suited to take the country out of recession. Now, can I say that my position is that Obama is better suited to take the country out of recession - yes I can say that.

Let me know if this helps.
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08 Mar 2013, 11:32
Took me 5 minutes

1st:
Anyway, you have to focus on the WHOLE argument. Then, realize that the last sentence of the argument doesn't agree with

the two boldface portions. From understanding this we can eliminate

A. "...the second is the position taken by the argument"

B. "the first is a position taken by the argument..."

E. "...the second is a the position the taken by the argument"

2nd:
Now you got a 50% chance of getting the answer correct. Differences between C and D:

Premise: Paint is the most sensitive substance in these works.

Conclusion: Museums can reduce energy costs without risking damage to these paintings.

C. The argument DOES call the first bold statement into question, however, the second boldface is NOT supported by the first

one. This is basically saying that the relationship is Conclusion - Premise (incorrect)

D. The argument DOES call the first bold statement into question AND the second bold face is supported by the first.

Hence, Premise - Conclusion (correct)
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17 Apr 2013, 20:42
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Museums that house Renaissance oil paintings typically store them in envbironments that are carefully kept within narrow margins of temperature and humidity to inhibit any deterioration. Laboratory tests have shown that the kind of oil paint used in these paintings actually adjusts to climatic changes quite well. If, as some museum directors believe, paint is the most sensitive substance in these works, then by relaxing the standards for temperature and humidity control, museums can reduce energy costs without risking damage to these paintings. Museums would be rash to relax those standards, however, since results of preliminary tests indicate that gesso, a compound routinely used by Renaissance artists to help paint adhere to the canvas, is unable to withstand significant variations in humidity.

In the argument above, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is an objection that has been raised against the position taken by the argument; the second is the position taken by the argument.
B. The first is the position taken by the argument; the second is the position that the argument calls into question.
C. The first is a judgment that has been offered in support of the position that the argument calls into question; the second is a circumstance on which that judgment is, in part based.
D. The first is a judgment that has been offered in support of the position that the argument calls into question; the second is that positon.
E. The first is a claim that the argument calls into question; the second is the position taken by the argument.

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE
OG12 CR 124

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Need every option`s explanation
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07 Sep 2013, 07:27
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:oops: Hi All,
lets discuss what GMAC means by "Claim", "position", "judgement". Such terms may reappear and then discuss this question again.

I think:
Claim: each side of argument
Position: just a stand point or a view on which a claim is made.
judgement: When supported by aurgument, a Position should be concidered as judgement.

Can someone elaborate the above three definition.
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animesh_an wrote:
vsaxenaGMAT wrote:
:oops: Hi All,
lets discuss what GMAC means by "Claim", "position", "judgement". Such terms may reappear and then discuss this question again.

I think:
Claim: each side of argument
Position: just a stand point or a view on which a claim is made.
judgement: When supported by aurgument, a Position should be concidered as judgement.

Can someone elaborate the above three definition.

Hi Animesh,

I don't agree with the above definitions. All of these three words could be used to refer to the same statement. For example: If I say:

Joe is an idiot since he does not care about studies.

Here, the underlined part "Joe is an idiot" is my judgment about Joe. Right? You know about judgments that people make about others. So, I can call this statement a "judgment".
I can also call it my claim since I am claiming something i.e. "Joe is an idiot". I can also claim " I am super human". In a similar way, "Joe is an idiot" can also be called a claim.
Lastly, "Joe is an idiot" is also my position or the position of the argument since the argument as a whole seeks to establish that "Joe is an idiot" by providing a reason that "he does not care about the studies".

The same statement "Joe is an idiot" in the above context can also be called "the main conclusion of the argument", or "opinion", or "belief".

There are no specific definition for these words in the context of GMAT; what these words mean in our everyday life is what they mean in GMAT. So, if you know the meaning of these terms from your everyday usage, you need not cram any definitions.

I think you should solve some official CR questions. You'll then better appreciate what I have said here.

Also, e-GMAT offers "Bold Face" concept files as part of the free trial. You may want to try it out. It' completely. Click on the below image.

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