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Good luck to you too!! Please let me know if you have any more questions! I got a lot from this community as a lurker, so I'm happy to return the favor. Most of my advice is just a synthesis of what I read here, but I'd like to think I did a good job picking and choosing ideas.
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When I first started studying, I already had very strong verbal scores (40+V on first mba.com tests). It helps that I'm a native English speaker and an avid reader. However, SC was always my weakest area in verbal, and it remained the weakest throughout my studies. It seemed like no matter what I tried, I couldn't improve my accuracy. Perhaps this was because I was already approaching the point of limited returns. Regardless, I think you should ask others for advice on verbal because I didn't manage to "crack" that portion of the test to the same extent as quant.
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Those are some great tips, and your score is proof of concept.

Nice work!

May all go well going forward.
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Hey there, congrats on the 760. i have a question about quant.

1. did u complete entire ttp course
2. did u also bolster quant with GMATclub forum and test?


How I studied for the GMAT:

ORIENTATION PHASE
=>Step 1: Brief (<1 week) review of overall structure of GMAT (familiarization with types of questions, timing, etc.)
=>Step 2: mba dot com official practice exam (to gauge my starting point)

LEARNING PHASE
=>Step 1: Read chapter, create flashcards, and complete all example questions without time constraint (This helps ensure full understanding! Do not introduce a time limit while you are learning! I spent 10-20 minutes on some problems, especially in verbal, just to make sure I understood all aspects.)
=>Step 2: Minimum one medium and one hard chapter tests (if I was weak in an area, I did extra tests)
=>Step 3: Review/redo all wrong answers/guesses/3+ minute answers
=>Step 4: Repeat steps 1-3 for every single chapter, in order! I alternated with verbal chapters, as well.
(note: Working up to 14 hours a day, sometimes I could only get through one chapter, but most days I could get through more. Understanding the content is much more important than rushing through it.)

PRACTICE PHASE
=>Step 1: Use TTP's analytics and your own observations to identify your weakest areas
=>Step 2a: Create TTP custom practice quizzes targeting weak areas. I would do sets of 5 medium and hard problems timed, then review my answers. If I had to guess on a question, I would return to it and work out the solution un-timed before reviewing the solution
=>Step 2b: Review chapters/notes/flashcards pertaining to weak areas
=>Step 3: After addressing all weak areas, take another mba dot com practice test
=>Step 4: Review/redo missed problems/guesses/3+ minute answers on practice test
=>Step 5: Continue custom practice quizzes targeting weak areas
=>Step 6: Repeat steps 1-5 until mba dot com practice test scores consistently exceed target score. (Don't waste the mba dot com tests. I would only take a practice test if I was sure that I had invested significant effort on improving.)

By the end of my studies, I had completed the following:
(1) Every verbal and quant lesson on TTP
(2) TTP Quant: 31% of all medium problems, 33% of all hard problems
(3) TTP Verbal: All SC medium and hard, 17% of CR medium and hard

In addition to these TTP resources, I used questions from the Official Guide and a few LSAT CR questions. I did ~50% of the OG's medium and hard quant, and ~50% of the OG's medium and hard SC. I used explanations on Gclub for these questions. In my experience, TTP's practice verbal questions were quite good and identified the topics in which I was weakest. However, the OG verbal questions were the best match for real test questions. Make sure your studies include a healthy amount of OG verbal!!

Given more time, I would have spent much more effort on CR and RC. I am a native speaker and avid reader, so I could score relatively well on verbal without significant work. My practice verbal scores ranged from 42-45. With more time and effort, I'm sure I could have improved to 45+ on verbal.

I did not like the Gclub test. The mba dot com tests were sufficient.




Thanks a lot buddy. Good Luck with Mba admissions.
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Awesome debrief! Thanks so much for posting! Are you applying in R1? Are you sending in your scores or taking your time?

P.S. Would you be interested in doing a YouTube debrief sometime? E.g. something along the lines of this video? (though not sure if anyone can really measure up the popularity of that one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U69BTder8lc
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bb thanks! I'm applying round 1 and sending in my scores.

I'm happy to do a YouTube debrief. Colton's debrief was awesome! I wish I'd seen it earlier and had time to incorporate more of his advice for verbal!

I can't do the debrief until early October. If you don't mind the wait, shoot me a PM and we can coordinate :)
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Perhaps the best debrief I have ever read on GmatClub. This really is gold as Draples said :)
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Hi.. Thanks for your debrief. It is quite helpful.

I just want to know what you did for your verbal especially for SC.

Any resources you can suggest?

Regards

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Thanks a lot!

I am following TTP only after finishing manhatten. I am planning to take exam in mid Jan . It's been just one week since I enrolled for the course. I have finished one module. I hope I could cover whole in one month.

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Actually I am studying full time. I have taken a break for a month. I want to get admission next year. I don't know if I would be able to do it. But I am trying my best. My target is 740.

Let's see.
I will surely ask them. Thanks!

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Glad to hear you're studying full time. I think it helps a lot; just be careful to avoid burning out.

You can definitely make 740. By the end of TTP, Quant will seem like a cake walk! Best of luck!
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I have a doubt. You told your accuracy on SC didn't improve much after finishing the SC course beside a little improvement on speed. Then how come you scored so well in GMAT. I am sure you can't score so high just relying on quant.

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PyjamaScientist wrote:
Perhaps the best debrief I have ever read on GmatClub. This really is gold as Draples said :)


High praise, thank you! Hope it helps some folks reach their goals :)

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I just want to know what you did for your verbal especially for SC.

Any resources you can suggest?
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Glad you found it helpful.

I used TTP's SC chapters to learn the material. Then, I used TTP's practice tests to reinforce the concepts. After finishing most TTP practice questions, I used OG questions. The OG questions were by far the best, but there aren't many of them. So, make sure you master the basics and exhaust TTP's question bank before using up the OG questions.

I also want to emphasize that my SC studies seemed fairly ineffective. My accuracy on SC questions did not improve over the course of my studies, and my speed only improved by a bit. You may be better served following someone else's SC advice.

Best of luck on your studies :)
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Also, if you have months left before your test, read as much as you can. Try to mix in some publications like the economist and scientific american. Find books written at a high(ish) level that you also enjoy. That could be Infinite Jest, Noise, or Game of Thrones. Find something that suits your tastes but isn't too light.
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Is there any way you can wait and take the exam later? Finishing TTP in a month in unrealistic. Unless you can study full-time and have the stamina to make it through an 8+ hour study marathon daily, I don't think you'll get close to your maximum score potential.

Maybe mid-Feb could work, but even then you won't get to cycle through a couple mba.com practice tests and improve on your weak areas. You should contact the TTP team and ask for help building a study plan. They're incredibly helpful and responsive.
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