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Critical Reasoning Strategies:

I will list my strategies to solve CR. Before you embark on this, make sure that you are fairly comfortable with the following things -

1. How to recognize the weakening, strengthening, and assumption questions? - if not, you may need to refer to Manhattan, Veritas or Powerscore CR Bible.
2. How to identify the conclusion and evidence in the argument? If you are having difficulty, you may need to refer to Powerscore CR bible ( refer to beginning chapters)
3. What weakening and strengthening really mean? In the weakening question, you weaken the conclusion ( and not necessarily destroy it). Similarly, in the strengthening question, you strengthen the conclusion.


I will write this post in blocks. And will edit as I get comments or suggestions.

How to identify wrong answers?

PART A




1. Scope of the argument and answer choices - This is a toughest part of the CR, according to me. How you will determine the scope of the argument? And once you determine the scope of the argument, how you will use to eliminate the answer choice? Let me give some examples. Later I will add OG CR question to evaluate this.

Example 1 : Scientist found a virus that could be used to cure the lyme disease. The virus called H5R is found in the mountain of Himalayas. Thus, the lyme disease could be cured in near future.

Scope : Read the conclusion. You need the eagle eye view on the conclusion. Now let's find out the scope. The scope of this argument is focused on lyme disease. It's not scientist or mountain or to some extent virus ( depends on the CR). Now let's consider some wrong answer choices.
Example 2 : Scientist found a virus that could be used to cure the lyme disease. Because of some concern, FDA advised to not to perform any animal testing. Hence, Scientist will test on human, preferably anyone who is a scientist.
Score : The scope of the argument has been slightly changed from the cure of lyme to testing on human. Again, read the conclusion. Do to lost in any other information.

Now let’s solve one OG 12 Question
11. Wood smoke contains dangerous toxins that cause changes in human cells. Because wood smoke presents such a high health risk, legislation is needed to regulate the use of open-air fires and wood-burning stoves.
Which of the following, if true, provides the most support for the argument above?

(A) The amount of dangerous toxins contained in wood smoke is much less than the amount contained in an equal volume of automobile exhaust.
(B) Within the jurisdiction covered by the proposed legislation, most heating and cooking is done with oil or natural gas.
(C) Smoke produced by coal-burning stoves is significantly more toxic than smoke from wood-burning stoves.
(D) No significant beneficial effect on air quality would result if open-air fires were banned within the jurisdiction covered by the proposed legislation.
(E) In valleys where wood is used as the primary heating fuel, the concentration of smoke results in poor air quality.

Conclusion: legislation is needed to regulate the use of open-air fires and wood-burning stoves.

Scope : Look at the score of the conclusion. Also, pay close attention to action and subject. “Legislation” is required to “regulate the use of open-air and wood-burning stoves”. Now, we are focusing on legislation (broad term) and open-air and wood-burning stoves (narrow terms). The wrong scope choices may be “Judicial”, “US legislation”, “coal-burning stoves”, “closed air stoves”,etc.

Looking at the scope, we can eliminate choices A (wrong scope – automobile exhaust), B (wrong scope – oil or natural gas), and C (wrong scope – coal-burning). D is also out of scope, but I will cover under the strengthen question.

2. Wrong Comparison – This is one choice that I find most often. When you find the word “less than” or “more than”, you know that something is being compared. In my test preparation, I found out that this choice is almost wrong. ( Mind it – I use “almost” as I only encountered one question when this choice was correct. I don’t remember the question). Now, if you look at the above OG question, you will find the choices A and C are being compared with something. So you can knock out those two choices.

Let’s consider another OG 12 example.

20. In recent years, many cabinetmakers have been winning acclaim as artists. But since furniture must be useful, cabinetmakers must exercise their craft with an eye to the practical utility of their product. For this reason, cabinetmaking is not art.

Which of the following is an assumption that supports drawing the conclusion above from the reason given for
that conclusion?

(A) Some furniture is made to be placed in museums, where it will not be used by anyone.
(B) Some cabinetmakers are more concerned than others with the practical utility of the products they produce.
(C) Cabinetmakers should be more concerned with the practical utility of their products than they currently are.
(D) An object is not an art object if its maker pays attention to the object’s practical utility.
(E) Artists are not concerned with the monetary value of their products.

Looking at the above choices, I can blindly eliminate B and C.

Originally posted by talk2vj on 16 May 2011, 00:16.
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excellent post sir. This is the kind of journey I enjoy reading and hope to live through in the future.


Thanks Menacel. Best of luck to you.
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Hello windofchange,

Thanks for the wishes.

I am not sure about the superprep. I checked out a book from the local library. It has collections of last 10 years papers. Also, I got solutions from Kalpan. Now, the biggest problem with RC is that no matter how much you practice, you will never be confident of the answers. Atleast, it was the case with me. So make sure that you have strategy for short, medium and long passages. For example, if I get a short passage, I will either read the whole passage or apply GMAT Pill strategy based on the nature of the passage and difficulty level. If the short passage is about scientific discovery and the content is dense, I found the GMAT Pill strategy every effective. But if the short passage is about management and the content is light, I normally read the whole passage. On the same note, I followed different strategy for long passages. If you have a strategy that works for you, the chances are you will make less mistake.


Hope this helps!!!
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Sorry for this delay, windofchange!!!

Let me start with the strategies that I used in my GMAT preparation-

1. Don't peruse but read critically

While I was preparing for RC, I heard people saying that read RC "critically". Seriously what it really means. Am I not reading it correctly? And what is perusing? "Perusing" is a fancy verb, which means reading with the unconscious intent of remembering things. So don’t peruse i.e. don’t retain the junk. The super smart people peruse the whole RC in 2-3 mins and attempts all questions in time ( and this is just my theory. But no puns intended). But I am not super human. I need to read the RC in less than or equal to 3-4 mins and then attempt all questions. So how can I read critically? This is what we need to do -

a) Main idea - Get the main idea of the passage. Let me say this, in RC you will also face "main idea" question. I am not entirely referring to this main idea. When I talk about the main idea, it basically can be found in first and last sentences of the first passage. For example, the RC passage is about the laws passed to reserve more lands for native americans, but native americans were not happy campers. Then the native americans filed multiple lawsuits. The next passage will talk about the lawsuits. And the final passage will talk about the outcome of the law suits i.e. now native americans can establish more legal casinos. (I am just making it up but there is some truth to this story). Now, the main idea is "Native americans embroiled in law suits". That's it. No more to think about. So try to get the main idea of the passage.

b) Descriptive Versus Argumentative - I learn this from another top scorer. I don't remember his name. But I made a note. When you are reading the passage, do a litmus test - Descriptive Versus Argumentative. You will usually find the answers in adjectives or adverbs. Also, in case of argumentative passages, the author ( or other characters) will take a corner in a stage i.e. take a position. If you able to identify this, you can eliminate some choices in the main idea question.

c) Tone and Attitude - Pay attention to the tone and attitude of the author and any actor in the RC. This is hard to practice than said. The attitude is how the author or other character feels about an issue or experiment or recent findings. The tone is the expression to show the attitude. For example, the author thinks that the new recent finding of the collection of ancient pots in Sumatra may have cultural values but no scientific values. So the author's attitude is qualified and not positive enough for the literary community. But his tone is mild. He didn't use extreme words to show this resentment. The benefit of understanding the tone and attitude has two parts – 1) you get engross in the passage 2) some of the “according to” or specific question can be easily done.

d) Context - This is one area where you need to focus more. You may get one or more inference questions on this area. When you see any example, or editorial or person reference, you don't necessary need to remember the content. Instead you need to find out in what context the example or reference has been used. And this is what I meant reading "critically". When you encounter an example or a reference, pause for a moment ( just a moment not a minute) and ask yourself why the author of the passage quoted this. Taking the above example about the native americans, if the author quoted a specific lawsuit, find out the context. The context could be that the author wanted to showcase the activism and awareness in the native americans for their rights on lands. This is one area you need to practice when you work on RC.

e) Overall passage structure - After you are done reading with the passage, in two to four words, summarize the whole RC. For example, you can say first passage is talking about "new experiment", second passage is talking about "comparison with previous finding", and the last passage is talking about "open new opportunity". If you practice doing this diligently, you can answer any structure based question. We need to understand one thing. In GMAT, every passage in RC has a purpose. And every passage is linked with it's previous passage. You need practice to form a structure without going into the details.

2. Using Grid in RC In my brief, I talked about using the grid. In case of RC, I normally jotted down the start time on the answer sheet. After I finish my reading, I will write down end time. And after I finish all the three or four questions, I will write down the end time. By doing this, you can better manage your time. For example, if the RC is tough, you need more time to solve it. So you can't rush through the tough RC in the same way you attempt easy RC. Now, if you take 5-7 mins more in the tough RC, you need to compensate that time by either forcing yourself to solve other SC or CR questions in less time or skipping the SC or CR using the educated guess.

3. Love doing RC The bad things about RC are that 1) it has more Weightage in verbal score, 2) it takes more time 3) you are not completely sure about the answers. But the good thing about the RC is that it gives your brain some time to stop being calculative and more being emotional but assertive. Use your RC time to not only understand the subject but try to relax yourself.

4. RC Topics Many companies say that GMAT picks topics from various subject so that no one person can have advantage. It is true. But , according to me, you can use to your advantage. I love management and politics. So if you love something and you see it in the test, you know that you are "sort of" familiar with the terms or underlying knowledge. Use this advantage and increase your reading speed but without compromising the quality. Also, if you take more time on a specific topics, practice more. I found out that I had always been taking more time if GMAT threw me something new. For example, I always did horribly in sociology, psychology, or civil history topics. Then I solved around 20 LSAT papers. By the tail-end of the exam, I was very confident with the topics.

4. CAT RCs In test, you will get three to four RCs. You need to distribute time accordingly. Also, based on the nature of the passage, you need to make sure that first and last RCs should get more quality time. For example, if you get an inference question in first RC, which is complex and reading a passage could get the answer, do it. Read the passage and sacrifice some time. Do the same for the last passage. But don't do for the second and third RCs.

Now, let's talk about short, medium and long RCs.

Note : Some companies defined these RCs in terms of words. But for me, the above definition holds more water during the actual test.

Short RC - 2 passages or paragraphs
Most of time, I will read the short passages. However, if I am running out of time and I’m on 3rd RC passage, I will try to use the GMAT Pill. Also, if the nature of the content is dense, then I will read carefully. ( or should I say critically) . Read above post for more information.
Medium RC - 3 passages or paragraphs
With medium RC, I will read the first paragraph critically, but then I will use the GMAT Pill on the second or third paragraph. If the content is dense, I will try to read the last passage critically.
Long RC - 4 or more passages or paragraphs
With long RC, I will generally use the GMAT Pill. I try to put more time on the questions.
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Taking 3-4 mins on your whole passage and first question is not bad. Depending on the passage, I used to take more or less. If your RC accuracy is constant with the current state of timings, now your approach should be to balance RC , CR and SC in the test. Take a full test and see if your RC performance deteriorate. If it does, you need to work on balancing RC, CR, and SC rather than working on individual sections. Let me know and I can help you there. Good luck!!!

Originally posted by talk2vj on 30 May 2011, 10:01.
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excellent post sir. This is the kind of journey I enjoy reading and hope to live through in the future.
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Wow - fantastic debrief.
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wow, amazing and inspring story!
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Thank you, bb. You have done an amazing job to hold this fort. This is truely a godsend forum.

And thanks to "willigetmylifeback". Sending you a lot of wishes for your next attempt.
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talk2vj can you please give me some suggestions on Verbal? I really need help to improve my verbal score.
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Congrats on achieving your score !
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:) wonderful Post. My heartiest congratulations to you !!
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First of all, congrats on your 720 and thanks so much for the great debrief! (and kudos to you!)

I too find GMATPill RC method extremely useful and I can say that this strategy works for me. I have exhausted the RC passages in OG12 and I want to move on to LSAT passages. Because you mentioned about using LSAT during your prep, could you pls tell me which LSAT materials you used for RC? Did you use the Official LSAT Superprep? or just the compiled passages in the forum?
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