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# Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been

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19 Feb 2017, 12:57
Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

Issues: Modifier

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise
- "the amount of ... satellites" is incorrect as "satellites" is countable and "amount" is used for non-countable.

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris
- "the amount of ... satellites" is incorrect as "satellites" is countable and "amount" is used for non-countable.
- "amount of satellites" and "space debris" are not comparable object, whereas they should be as they are following "both"

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

- "continually" is redundant
- "with" fails to establish causal relationship

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites
- changes meaning
- "with" fails to establish causal relationship

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13 Apr 2018, 08:57
sayantanc2k, mikemcgarry Please explain what is the error in option D. My reasoning is that "with .....satellites" doesnot indicate the reason for the chances of collision. Instead, the modifier presents additional information.
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Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites
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13 Apr 2018, 09:43
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sayantanc2k, mikemcgarry Please explain what is the error in option D. My reasoning is that "with .....satellites" doesnot indicate the reason for the chances of collision. Instead, the modifier presents additional information.
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Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites

Hello gmatacer40,

The word as in this official sentence has been used to mean while. So the sentence presents simultaneity between the chances of collision increasing and the amount of space debris and number of satellites increasing.

The usage of with fails to communicate that sense of simultaneity between the two actions.

There is parallelism error also in Choice D. Per this choice, the list is: with

the continually increasing amount of space debris and
the number of satellites

This list fails to convey that the number of satellites is also increasing continually.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.
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14 Apr 2018, 20:39
egmat, sayantanc2k, mikemcgarry
1) How to ascertain that this OA has used 'as" for the simultaneity of actions. I feel that the OA has used "as" for providing the reason for increase in the chances of collision. Please correct my understanding.
2) If we ignore parallelism error in option D, then what does the modifier "with.....satellites" modify and what difference in the meaning it creates resulting in wrong option.
3) I am really not crystal clear with the use of "with modifier". The following official incorrect sentence also uses "with modifier". But unable to get the reasoning of error.
Before 1988, insurance companies in California were free to charge whatever rates the market would bear, [u]with no approval needed from regulators before the raising of rates.[/u]
please explain that what meaning error is created by "with modifier"
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10 May 2018, 19:09
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Can experts comment on AS in (C) vs WITH in (D)?
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10 May 2018, 19:44
I don't want to be too neardy, but since we are here two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel HAS, but not have
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10 May 2018, 23:23
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I don't want to be too neardy, but since we are here two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel HAS, but not have

Hi Hero8888, in general, we use singular verbs with Time, Money, and Weight, when a linking verb (is/are/was/were) is used.

So, following would be correct:

Two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel is a lot.

However, here since we have an action verb (put) in the sentence under consideration, the subject two tons would be considered plural. Hence, have is the correct usage.
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15 May 2018, 02:14
egmat wrote:
thangvietnam wrote:
pls, explain fully why D is wrong. I think D is wrong because of meaning problem.

"with phrase" can modify noun a a clause. why "with phrase " is wrong in D.

Hi there,

Choice D: with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites
Notice the parallel list in this sentence – chances increase greatly with
a. The continually increasing amount of space debris
b. The number of satellites.
This is not the intended meaning of the sentence. Per the sentence both are increasing and this choice fails to communicate that.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

Hi egmat,
I am unable to understand why we cant frame the parallel structure of option-D as I shown below:

with the continually increasing 1.amount of space debris and 2.number of satellites

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29 May 2018, 14:49
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Hi egmat,
I am unable to understand why we cant frame the parallel structure of option-D as I shown below:

with the continually increasing 1.amount of space debris and 2.number of satellites

Hello tamal99,

I apologize for getting back to this one so late. Sincere apologies.

For Choice D, we cannot consider the list that you have suggested in your post because the continually increasing amount of space debris is one noun phrase. We just cannot break this phrase from anywhere to force a list in the sentence.

Hope this helps.
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29 Sep 2018, 01:21

Can experts comment on AS in (C) vs WITH in (D)?

I'm certainly not an expert here, but I may try to help with my 2 cents of input.
As and With aren't the distinction/split that makes a do or die decision for this sentence.
The use of As in this sentence is not in connection with "SUCH" in the non-underlined portion of the sentence.
If at all, the only subtle shift that I see with the usage of with in option D and E is in the meaning.
In the context of the sentence "As" and "With" seem to convey the similar meaning.
The major distinction on this sentence is based on 2 things:
1. Countable Vs Uncountable Nouns.
2. Parallelism
I hope this helps.

GMATNinja, would love hear (see in the context of the chat ) your thoughts....
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15 Oct 2018, 01:58
scheol79 wrote:
Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites

look at choice D and E. ignore the grammar with phrase "with+...". we can still find the error in choice D and E.

in choice D, "the number" is too far from increasing, so we can not apply "increasing" to "amount" and "number".
increasing temporature and humidity is bad.
this is correct because "humidity" is near "increasing"

in choice E, "along with the number..." should be close to " amount of space debris".

the intended meaning is "as" meaning "when". the time relation here is best and most logic. with+noun phrase can modify a main clause, showing reason, context and effect of main clause.
"with +noun phrase" can be said to be versatile because it can show many meaning relation with the main clause. but "with+noun"phrase can not show all meaning relations with main clause. it can not show time relation as "as" or "when" do. so, "with+noun phrase " can not replace "as"
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21 Dec 2018, 01:55
scheol79 wrote:
Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites

D suffer 2 problems.
first, it is not paralel. we can not consider amount of debris and number of satellites are paralel because in creasing working as an adjective is too far from the number.

second. D suffer grammatical error. there is no grammatical structure of D in english/
with+noun+noun modifier works as adverb to show context, reason or effect of the main verb.
I learn gmat with many of my friends going out for gambling at the casino.
with+noun can be used to show a means of the main verb
I write with a pen
the meaning of the sentence is that in the context of increasing of debris and satalites , the chance of collision is higher. so, the pattern in choice D is incorrect to show this meaning.
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30 Jan 2019, 07:47
[quote="scheol79"]Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise.

(A) as the amount of both space debris and satellites continue to rise

(B) as the rise continues in both the amount of satellites and space debris

(C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise

(D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites

(E) with the amount of space debris continuing to increase along with the number of satellites[/quote

if we see a split between dependent clause and absolute phrase, focus on the difference between them.
absolute phrase show 2 relations with the main clause. the first relation is time relation, a simultaneousness with the main action. the second relation is meaning relations which can be a reason, effect or conditions of the main verb. absolute phrase show both relations at the same time

in contrast, dependent clause show only 1 relation: time relation shown by "as", or meaning relation shown by "because".

the dependent clause here is "as....". the absolute phrase here is " with the amount..."

the intended meaning is that there is only time relation between two actions. so, we do not need absolute phrase, . choice D and E are gone
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02 May 2019, 18:57
A lot of responses in this thread unnecessarily overcomplicate how (D) changes the meaning, so I'm going to be simple:

Meaning: the chances of a collision increase when both the amount of space debris and the number of satellites increase. That means we need both of them to be increasing. None of this "causal" crap

Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly (C) as the amount of space debris and the number of satellites continue to rise -->conveys the meaning that the chance of a collision increases only when both the amount of debris and the number of satellites increase.

Nearly two tons of nuclear-reactor fuel have already been put into orbit around the Earth, and the chances of a collision involving such material increase greatly (D) with the continually increasing amount of space debris and the number of satellites -->conveys that only the amount of space debris needs to increase for the chance of a collision to increase.
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