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# Need to go up 50 points - which course to take?

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Need to go up 50 points - which course to take? [#permalink]

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07 Feb 2004, 18:16
I need to know which course (PR or Kaplan...or perhaps Powerscore/Testmasters) would be best for getting my score up 50 points?

I scored a 650 the first time around, and need some help with:
a) Discipline and structure (cant seem to motivate this second time)
b) Improvement in Quant

Any suggestions and guidance from those that took any courses (and scored 700+) would be greatly appreciated.

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07 Feb 2004, 20:28
While we all would like to help it will be pointless to ask for help without providing any clues as to what is it that we want. If you need to score higher on GMAT, the first resource (better than most classes) is this club and the previous posts. Go through the quant forum posts and learn and solve your way through the maze. Supplement with a rigorous study of Kaplan and OG and 700+ shd not be a problem.

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08 Feb 2004, 13:27
A class will definitely help with discipline and structure. The GMAT sucks - not easy to stay motivated on it!!

I would do the PR course. Their instructors are a lot better and the materials are excellent.

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09 Feb 2004, 01:25
I am surprised at the first poster who claims PR to be better. IMHO, PR questions do not mirror GMAT (even Kaplan's do not) but Kaplan's are nearer. While individual opinion is ok, perhaps a glance through all previous posts by very many posters may be a good idea. I did not take PR course but did buy the PR and Kaplan CDs and frankly Kaplan is a cut above PR (although PP is far far better test than any of Kaplan's tests - in difficulty levels, in scoring logic and in not having even a single mistake).

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09 Feb 2004, 16:41
Actually, I do think that PR's questions are a lot closer to the real GMAT than Kaplan's. If you read through older posts, you'll see that Kaplan quant is a lot harder than the real GMAT, and that their verbal questions, especially RC, are convoluted and confusing, not at all like the real thing. PR's verbal questions especially are very similar to the GMAT. I did not use Kaplan's materials because of all the negative things I read on the boards, but found PR to be very similar in style and difficulty to the real thing. I would recommend them along with Powerprep and the OG without hesitation. They were excellent.

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09 Feb 2004, 21:17
What is the data of scoring ? Have you given GMAT ? How many times? What is your score and how much did PR help you? Sorry to get drawn into a needless issue, but you are the first poster on GMATClub advocating PR and I would be very interested in knowing the actual data.

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10 Feb 2004, 08:07
I highly doubt I'm the first person on this site to recommend them, and I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you. Do you work for one of their competitors or something?! Sheesh.

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10 Feb 2004, 21:18
This club is not there for people who do not want to post their own credible thoughts and point accusations at others. I have been a member for very long now. I do not post very often but do interject whenever I see some possibly incorrect messages being given. It is clear to me that you do not have any data to support what you have been advocating and therefore I would recommend all club members to have their own checks before getting into PR materials. I am - for your info - not a supporter of Kaplan or anybody and everyone needs to take what is best and what works for them. People who have given GMAT, scored high and are now in app stages do not return to this forum to get into contests, but to help others since they believe that this club helped them through their own journey for the GMAT. Finally, it would be very nice if you totally abstain from using swear words on this club forum.

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12 Feb 2004, 10:11
Neither of you are helping.

I have already used both the Kaplan and Princeton Review CD's.

I asked about opinions on a prep course. There is a reason that a CAT CD costs \$25 and a prep course costs \$1100-\$1200. To dismiss the courses b/c a generic CD out of a shrink-wrapped package is not up to par is, in my eyes, not a fair assessment.

Please comment on the courses, if you have taken them. That is the kind of valuable feedback I am looking for.

Bickering over which \$25 CAT CD is better is not what I asked.

Thank you.

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12 Feb 2004, 10:21
jjomall, IMO, you should not spend that much money on an actual test prep. If you already scored 650 and need that extra push to reach the 700 treshold, then just practice the tough questions from this site and from the paper tests and you should be fine. Unless you have much money to spend, I would not waste my money on test prep courses which is more geared towards improving the average grades of the masses. When PR boasts average score improvement of 100 points, I think most of that average is from guys scoring in the 400/500 range going up to the 600. Those in your position, at 650, will not get much of that benefit to go to the 700 level. Well, maybe you will get it but once again, I would not pay 1200\$.
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12 Feb 2004, 15:29
anup, I merely shared my opinion on the company's materials...I am not posting "potentially incorrect messages". I used PR, found the materials to be extremely helpful, and should not have to post my personal stats to prove to you that the materials are of exceptional quality. The fact that I choose to keep my stats private is my business, and not an indication of anything else.

If you don't like them, fine. I don't care. But don't try to invalidate the opinions of others because they won't conform to your definition of what qualifies as a legitimate opinion. As far as all of these companies go, we are ALL sharing OPINIONS. What we think about a product. Both Kaplan and PR can help someone score 700+. I personally prefer PR, someone else might prefer Kaplan. But they're just opinions, and if you disagree with an opinion, that's fine, but don't make silly accusations that an opinion is invalid if someone doesn't feel like telling you their personal data.

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