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C : eliminate ,usage of IT is ambiguous ( can refer to dialects or language )

A very minor (but important) observation Anuj: "it" can only refer to "singular non-person" nouns and hence, "it" cannot refer to the plural noun "dialects".
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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.


(A) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

(B) and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

(C) and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

(D) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

(E) or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding


I read this question and immediately noticed the "between a language", which requires an "and" after, not "or". So, choices #4 and 5 are out.

I scanned the remaining three and saw that the first place they diverged was with "it"/"they". The meaning is the sub-languages or dialects within a language, which is singular. Choice #2 is out.

I compared #1 and #3. In #3, the sentence (with replacement of "it" for the noun "a language") is "...and the sub-languages or dialects within a language, but those who have tried counting a language typically find about 5,000." The red text doesn't make sense.

It's clearly #1.
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As per my understanding , between X and Y is the correct structure even we have to add some "OR" condition, it always affects the later part ( Y in this case). So I am not sure how A is correct.
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akt715 wrote:
As per my understanding , between X and Y is the correct structure even we have to add some "OR" condition, it always affects the later part ( Y in this case). So I am not sure how A is correct.

Hope you got the structure correct.

The structure in A is:

..between

(i) X (a language)
and
(ii) Y (the sub-languages or dialects within it)
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Hi DmitryFarber GraceSCKao KarishmaB GMATNinja egmat
avigutman - I see that some experts have used this as a decision point - "try to X" and "try X-ing"

I read Dmitry's Post and GMAT Ninja's post about this issue but I am not able to logically understand the difference between these 2 structures

I have attempted to understand via an analogy

Please let me know your thoughts !

Quote:
I hated to eat carrots
vs
I hated eating carrots


In the first -->
  • this sentence is in the past tense
  • the sentence implies this was a "Habit" of mine in the past

In the 2nd -->
  • this sentence is also in the past tense
  • the sentence emphasises not the "Habit" of eating per se
  • The sentence emphasises the "Eating" -- this emphasises the verb (perhaps my jaws hurt or my gums bled when I was eating carrots)

I think this difference is too subtle though

Thoughts ?

Originally posted by jabhatta2 on 19 Jul 2022, 08:04.
Last edited by jabhatta2 on 20 Jul 2022, 07:51, edited 5 times in total.
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jabhatta2 wrote:
think this difference is too subtle though

I agree, jabhatta2.
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Re: Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly [#permalink]
DmitryFarber wrote:
Actually, "try to X" and "try X-ing" are both valid constructions with different meanings. If I try to surf, I am attempting to surf. I may or may not succeed. If I try surfing, I am trying out the experience of surfing to see if I like it. It's common to see advice along the lines of "Try studying in the morning and see if you get better results." You're not ATTEMPTING and possibly failing to study in the morning; rather, you're studying in the morning to see if it works well for you.

In the context of this SC question, however, "tried counting" doesn't make sense. We want to say that people attempted to count but were not able to get a precise answer, not that they tried out the experience of counting to see if they liked it!


DmitryFarber

Thank you for your helpful explanation.

To clarify, I was initially focused on the -ing parallelism between "distinguishing" and "counting." Would Choice C be correct if the second "it" was removed? --> "and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting typically find"?
I realize that choice A has correct parallelism with the repetition of "have." Thank you for your time.
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Correct idiom is distinguish between A and B
d) and e) are out
c)the second refers to a language. Doesnt makes any sense if there is a single language what is the problem in counting it
d) them refers to sub languages/dialects and makes no sense at all
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