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As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week's newspaper.
(A) none of my friends have been able to solve
(B) none of my friends was able to solve
(C) not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
(D) none of my friends has been able to solve
(E) nobody among my friends have solved

IMO-D

E is clearly wrong answer choice.
Remember, "none of + Plural noun" can take either a singular or a plural verb form. => So, in this sentence, A has equal opportunity to D. So, I will eliminate both two. The same reason as choice B.

"Not one" is always singular. Furthermore, choice C contains "yet" is the key word for my choice, indicating that the present perfect is necessary. "Yet" makes the tense of sentence is clear

IMO C

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Its B

The sentence uses past tense so was is correct and None can be singular or plural that's not an issue
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New post 16 Dec 2011, 23:12
hi,
kindly use spoiler to hide ur opinion(sorry but it distracts/makes us biased) 4 d benefit of prac of others...thanks
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IMO A...

none of my friends (plural)

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there is a good discussion below on the issue: [i hope its ok to post other forum's link]
http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentenc ... pancy.html

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should be A, according to Manhattaan Gmat
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IMO A
must say after readinf bob's explanation that this one is poorly written..
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if you all haven't notices, this sentence is from OG and has its own error in none underlined part. None of the attempts - is plural and it takes singular verb: explains.

None is a SAMAN pronoun (if you have read MGMAT!!)
GMAC made a mistake!! it is human to make mistake!

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if you all haven't notices, this sentence is from OG and has its own error in none underlined part. None of the attempts - is plural and it takes singular verb: explains.

None is a SAMAN pronoun (if you have read MGMAT!!)
GMAC made a mistake!! it is human to make mistake!


I think GMAC is right. Pronouns ending with -one, -body, -ever, -thing are always singular. Examples are Someone, anybody, No one, Everyone, Anybody, No body, whoever etc. Here none means no one.
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NO.
Sure the pronouns you mention are always singular. They are indefinite pronouns. But pronouns like Some, None, All, Any, More, Most depend on the -of clause they take.

Some of my friends are coming over
Vs.
Some of my friend is coming over.

Read Manhatten Gmat chapter on Subject-Verb agreement.

None of the attempts is plural.

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divyakesharwani wrote:
NO.
Sure the pronouns you mention are always singular. They are indefinite pronouns. But pronouns like Some, None, All, Any, More, Most depend on the -of clause they take.

Some of my friends are coming over
Vs.
Some of my friend is coming over.

Read Manhatten Gmat chapter on Subject-Verb agreement.

None of the attempts is plural.


I think it's a debatable issue. GMAC has used none as singular in 2-3 examples in SC. OG 12 #04: none is singular.
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divyakesharwani wrote:
NO.
Sure the pronouns you mention are always singular. They are indefinite pronouns. But pronouns like Some, None, All, Any, More, Most depend on the -of clause they take.

Some of my friends are coming over
Vs.
Some of my friend is coming over.

Read Manhatten Gmat chapter on Subject-Verb agreement.

None of the attempts is plural.


I think it's a debatable issue. GMAC has used none as singular in 2-3 examples in SC. OG 12 #04: none is singular.


Well, in this sentence, to maintain the comparison, the verb in the second part should match the verb in the first part. Therefore, DO NOT COMMIT (first verb), and
DO ( second verb should be parallel). So, correct answer is choice D.

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divyakesharwani wrote:
NO.
Sure the pronouns you mention are always singular. They are indefinite pronouns. But pronouns like Some, None, All, Any, More, Most depend on the -of clause they take.

Some of my friends are coming over
Vs.
Some of my friend is coming over.

Read Manhatten Gmat chapter on Subject-Verb agreement.

None of the attempts is plural.


I think it's a debatable issue. GMAC has used none as singular in 2-3 examples in SC. OG 12 #04: none is singular.


Taken from Spidey's SC notes:
"None is one of the indefinite pronouns that is singular or plural. There used to be a old rule that defined that none is less than zero so it inherits a singular verb. However it is used in different context many times [...]
Example: In this question I think none of the answers are correct."

Is it possible that since this question is old, "none of the attempts" will now be considered plural by GMAC?

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None of the attempts to specify the causes of crime explains why most of the people exposed to the alleged causes do not commit crimes and, conversely, why so many of those not so exposed have.
(A) have
(B) has
(C) shall
(D) do
(E) could


As mentioned above by my fellow mates, this is a comparison question. Here the action verbs are to be taken into consideration as the comparison is around the action. Do not commit is the first action . So It will be an accurate comparison if it is compared with the same kind of action. So Do commit should be the right choice. How ever it makes a perfect sense if we end the sentence with do as we do not have any ambiguity. Do will still refer to "commit crimes"

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divyakesharwani wrote:
NO.
Sure the pronouns you mention are always singular. They are indefinite pronouns. But pronouns like Some, None, All, Any, More, Most depend on the -of clause they take.

Some of my friends are coming over
Vs.
Some of my friend is coming over.

Read Manhatten Gmat chapter on Subject-Verb agreement.

None of the attempts is plural.


I think it's a debatable issue. GMAC has used none as singular in 2-3 examples in SC. OG 12 #04: none is singular.


Taken from Spidey's SC notes:
"None is one of the indefinite pronouns that is singular or plural. There used to be a old rule that defined that none is less than zero so it inherits a singular verb. However it is used in different context many times [...]
Example: In this question I think none of the answers are correct."

Is it possible that since this question is old, "none of the attempts" will now be considered plural by GMAC?



None is nothing but not one. You should say "Not one of my friends is here" but not "Not one of my Friends are here". Breaking down none to Not one will give you the lead. Not One is always Singular.

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none of

some grammar book consider none of singular, other grammar book consider none of plural.

if we have to follow some sources, grammar books are good sources.

so, gmat consider none of singular.

gmat would never test this point. so, dont worry
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As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week's newspaper.
(A) none of my friends have been able to solve
(B) none of my friends was able to solve
(C) not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
(D) none of my friends has been able to solve
(E) nobody among my friends have solved

OA already given and i marked that only
but MGMAT says the answer is
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That i Cant understand confused now


Answer should be A.

As per Manhattan SC guide :"none" can be either singular or plural. Here "none of my friends" is plural. So Option A must be true.

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its clearly D, irrespective of what MGMAT says, the rules clearly state that none of plural always use a singular.

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As of this morning, none of my friends have been able to solve the puzzle contained in last week's newspaper.
(A) none of my friends have been able to solve
(B) none of my friends was able to solve
(C) not one of my friends has yet been able to solve
(D) none of my friends has been able to solve
(E) nobody among my friends have solved

OA already given and i marked that only
but MGMAT says the answer is
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That i Cant understand confused now


I marked D and my reasoning below:
none is singular and has is the right tense in this situation.
C and D look ok. eliminate C because of presence of yet which is redundant and not one of my friends is nonsensical.
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its clearly D, irrespective of what MGMAT says, the rules clearly state that none of plural always use a singular.


there are no clear rules about this one. It could be either plural or singular...

the most logic would be has but it is not stated that is MUST be has, have can also work... I think the question is wordy!
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