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Of four persons, two take cinnamon, two take peppermint, and

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Of four persons, two take cinnamon, two take peppermint, and three take sugar. The one who takes no peppermint takes no cinnamon, and the one who takes no sugar takes no peppermint. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no sugar also takes no cinnamon.
II. Any of the four persons who takes peppermint also takes cinnamon and sugar.
II. Any person who takes no cinnamon is not one of those who takes sugar.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III

Source: adapted from OG Quant 2020 (PS29502.01)
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Originally posted by chondro48 on 23 Aug 2019, 16:36.
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Hi everyone

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Originally posted by chondro48 on 23 Aug 2019, 16:38.
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As per my solution. A is the right answer.
Screenshot attached.
Where am I going wrong? :think:

chondro48 wrote:
Hi everyone, plus lnm87, Kinshook and Prasannathawait

Try the above question and find similar question here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/of-three-per ... 94397.html

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Prasannathawait wrote:
As per my solution. A is the right answer.
Screenshot attached.
Where am I going wrong? :think:

chondro48 wrote:
Hi everyone, plus lnm87, Kinshook and Prasannathawait

Try the above question and find similar question here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/of-three-per ... 94397.html

Kindly give +1 kudo too :)


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I am laughing loudly on myself since I also marked A.
Then wondering where i went wrong, i tried figuring out what happened. Then i tried solving the OG question of the link where i again fell flat and did stupid mistakes and finally marked a wrong answer. Not to mention that i took more than 3 min in each of them. Prasannathawait so now you can guess easly the reason of my laugh. :)

So my question to you and chondro48 and Kinshook is how to approach such questions(i thought of table first then venn diagram however went with approach similar to what you have done).
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Of four persons, two take cinnamon, two take peppermint, and three take sugar. The one who takes no peppermint takes no cinnamon, and the one who takes no sugar takes no peppermint. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no sugar also takes no cinnamon.
II. Any of the four persons who takes peppermint also takes cinnamon and sugar.
II. Any person who takes no cinnamon is not one of those who takes sugar.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III

Source: adapted from OG Quant 2020 (PS29502.01)
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C = Person taking cinnamon
PM = Person taking peppermint
S = Person taking sugar


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IMO D
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lnm87 wrote:
Prasannathawait wrote:
As per my solution. A is the right answer.
Screenshot attached.
Where am I going wrong? :think:

chondro48 wrote:
Hi everyone, plus lnm87, Kinshook and Prasannathawait

Try the above question and find similar question here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/of-three-per ... 94397.html

Kindly give +1 kudo too :)


Posted from my mobile device


I am laughing loudly on myself since I also marked A.
Then wondering where i went wrong, i tried figuring out what happened. Then i tried solving the OG question of the link where i again fell flat and did stupid mistakes and finally marked a wrong answer. Not to mention that i took more than 3 min in each of them. Prasannathawait so now you can guess easly the reason of my laugh. :)

So my question to you and chondro48 and Kinshook is how to approach such questions(i thought of table first then venn diagram however went with approach similar to what you have done).


chondro48 lnm87 Prasannathawait Please see my solution
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just now
I am posting my two solutions as screenshot.
In one case I am getting A, in other D.
As this is the case of must be true. Only A has to be the answer.

Please correct.

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I am posting my two solutions as screenshot.
In one case I am getting A, in other D.
As this is the case of must be true. Only A has to be the answer.

Please correct.

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The condition No Peppermint => No Cinnamon is NOT satisfied in second solution (IMO A)
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chondro48 wrote:
Prasannathawait wrote:
As per my solution. A is the right answer.
Screenshot attached.
Where am I going wrong? :think:

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Hi all, including Prasannathawait, lnm87 and Kinshook ,this could be an alternative to solve this problem. Find my attached solution.

Prasannathawait, looking at your answer, you are missing an implied correlation that all people who take Cinnamon (C) also have to take Peppermint (P) and Sugar (S). Check my attached solution. Also, kindly give kudo to the above question (not this explanation). Thanks a lot :)

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chondro48 You have uploaded your solution image 3 times.
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Ah! I got my mistake. A grave mistake.
Thanks a lot. :please


Kinshook wrote:
Prasannathawait wrote:
just now
I am posting my two solutions as screenshot.
In one case I am getting A, in other D.
As this is the case of must be true. Only A has to be the answer.

Please correct.

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The condition No Peppermint => No Cinnamon is NOT satisfied in second solution (IMO A)

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Prasannathawait wrote:
just now
I am posting my two solutions as screenshot.
In one case I am getting A, in other D.
As this is the case of must be true. Only A has to be the answer.

Please correct.


Attached is how I solved it. Neglect my previous post.

Prasannathawait, your answer on the right is wrong. You miss an implied correlation that all people who take Cinnamon (C) must also take Peppermint (P) and Sugar (S).

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chondro48: I never get your questions right. :cry:
Thanks. :please :thumbup:
I have to learn from this question.
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chondro48 wrote:
Prasannathawait wrote:
just now
I am posting my two solutions as screenshot.
In one case I am getting A, in other D.
As this is the case of must be true. Only A has to be the answer.

Please correct.


Attached is how I solved it. Neglect my previous post.

Prasannathawait, your answer on the right is wrong. You miss an implied correlation that all people who take Cinnamon (C) must also take Peppermint (P) and Sugar (S).

Posted from my mobile device

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I have a different problem. Sometimes i get chondro48 ' s questions right sometimes wrong.
Don't know which way I am going and which way to go.!!
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While i have solved a number of OG2020 problems i am still to come across all of them and focused to solve 700+ level ones at least correctly.
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New post 24 Aug 2019, 01:35
From the statements we can understand that there is one person who does not take any of the stuffs.
There are 2 people who take all stuffs and just one person who takes only sugar not any thing else.
So, option D would be correct.

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