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Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the financial markets.

A. so gradual as to be indistinguishable
B. so gradual they can be indistinguishable
C. so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
D. gradual enough not to be distinguishable
E. gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them


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A. so gradual as to be indistinguishable
So X as to Y is the idiom.

B. so gradual they can be indistinguishable

C. so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
Major economic shifts can't distinguish things....at least I hope not!

D. gradual enough not to be distinguishable

E. gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
"Enough so that.." doesn't work together.
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New post 31 May 2019, 20:12
Very interesting question. Trying to understand the intended meaning, it sound like A is saying "major economic shifts are so gradual with the intent of being indistinguishable". It sounded like that meaning was incorrect so I went with C.
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I understand that the idiom "so.. that so" is wrong. But answer B does not have that idiom. It just says "so gradual they can be indistinguishable". Does not have a double "so". Why is it wrong then?
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manapacheco wrote:
I understand that the idiom "so.. that so" is wrong. But answer B does not have that idiom. It just says "so gradual they can be indistinguishable". Does not have a double "so". Why is it wrong then?
Because the sentence starts with often, we don't really need a can there. For example:

1. Often, voters are asked to... ← This happens often, but probably not always.
vs.
2. Often, voters can be asked to... ← Pretty much the same thing, but with an additional layer of that "sometimes" meaning (because of can).

It is the word often that really makes a difference here. If we were instead looking at all possible events, then a can could help.

3. Voters are asked to... ← "everyone"
vs.
4. Voters can be asked to... ← "some, but probably not all"

Also, the GMAT seems to like having a that in so that constructions.

Therefore, we'd say that option A is better than option B.
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manapacheco wrote:
I understand that the idiom "so.. that so" is wrong. But answer B does not have that idiom. It just says "so gradual they can be indistinguishable". Does not have a double "so". Why is it wrong then?

As AjiteshArun suggested, (B) seems to be missing a "that". Consider the following examples:

  • "The earthquake was so strong that it was felt 500 miles away from the epicenter." - Correct.
  • "The earthquake was so strong; it was felt 500 miles away from the epicenter." - This could also work, but it changes the meaning very slightly. In the previous example, the second part of the sentence qualifies the first part: how strong was the earthquake? SO strong THAT it was felt... In this example, the two parts of the sentence are seemingly independent -- this version does not explicitly tell us that the earthquake was felt 500 miles away BECAUSE the earthquake was so strong.
  • "The earthquake was so strong it was felt 500 miles away from the epicenter." - Incorrect. If the second part qualifies the first part, then we need to use "so strong that" (as in the first example). If we want each part to be independent, we have to separate the two parts (i.e. with a semicolon, a period, or a comma+conjunction). By itself, "so strong" doesn't work.

(B) is wrong for the same reason: it makes far less sense without a "that".

I hope this helps!
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New post 25 Jul 2019, 00:40
Hello GMATNinja!!,
Thank you for clearing out doubts, you are awesome!.
In the above question I had chosen C as the answer, and to be honest nobody has done a good POE for it, all I hear is it's "wordy" or "how can shifts be unable to distinguish", according to me the later line of thinking would have been incorrect if it said something like" unable to be distinguishable".

I'll be glad if you could shed some light on why the option is incorrect.

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New post 26 Jul 2019, 02:11
GMATNinja - Could you please help me get clarity on this question?
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“So as to” vs. “so that” is a “red-herring” split here. In other words, either form is fine. The GMAT has gone back and forth on "so as to" (see Ch. 9 of our SC book), but you wouldn't want to eliminate on this basis alone.

In any case, the idiom “so as to” will generally have an intervening term: “So X as to Y.”

The award-winning pumpkin was so large as to require a special scale.

Note that the odd form of this idiom puts "require" in the present tense. Its size was large enough to cause this requirement.

We can also use “so that” with a more straightforward construction:

The award-winning pumpkin was so large that it required a special scale.

In the case of the posted problem, the difficulty with B has nothing to do with "so as to" vs. "so that"--it's the word “can.” We want to say that the changes actually are indistinguishable, not that they *can* be indistinguishable. This is a great example of the kind of meaning-based difference that can catch you if you are only focused on grammar rules. Beware!


I went with A since So As to fit better than So that in this case.

Also, You look like Jake Peralta from Brooklyn 99.
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Often major economic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the financial markets.

So X as to Y: is the correct idiom.
X enough to Y is used when the emphasis is on Y. "So X as to Y" is used when the emphasis is on X.

(A)so gradual as to be indistinguishable : CORRECT
(B)so gradual so that they can be indistinguishable: INCORRECT IDIOM
(C)so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished: HERE THEY REFER TO "major economic shifts" UNABLE TO BE DISTINGUISHED ( MEANING CHNAGE) AND PASSIVE VOICE TOO.major economic shifts IS UNABLE TO DO SOMETHING, WHICH IS MEANING LESS.
(D)gradual enough not to be distinguishable: WRONG IDIOM
(E)gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them: WORDY AND IDIOM ERROR.
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In another question, SC00971, why is the option A incorrect: ' Technically, “quicksand” is the term for sand that is so saturated with water as to acquire a liquid's character.' Thank you guys!
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Hi,
I have a doubt regarding meaning in option A:
so gradual as to be indistinguishable vs so gradual as to be distinguishable.
Doesn't the sentence says that shifts are so gradual that they cant be distinguished from ordinary fluctuations. So why we cant use so gradual as to be distinguishable?
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Why is C wrong ?

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"unable" or "able" is used to say about quality/qualification of persons or animals. things can not be used with "able" or "unable". this is not logical. only persons or animals can have qualification. the combination of words which is not logical is the focus of gmat test.
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I don't understand why B is incorrect in this version of the question.

In an earlier version option B was framed as - so gradual so....which was incorrect
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(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable

Everyone here is commenting that 'so X so Y' is wrong but I the option i am seeing is 'so X Y'
Is this also wrong? Is there anything wrong with B currently?
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