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On completing both the course in experimental design and the developmental psychology course, Angela will have earned a degree in psychology. Since experimental design, which must be completed before taking developmental psychology, will not be offered until next term, it will be at least two terms before Angela gets her psychology degree

If the statements above are all true, which one of the following must also be true?

(A) The developmental psychology course Angela needs to take requires two terms to complete.
(B) The course in experimental design is an easier course than the course in developmental psychology.
(C) There are no prerequisites for the course in experimental design.
(D) Anyone who earns a degree in psychology from the university Angela attends will have completed the course in experimental design.
(E) Once Angela completes the developmental psychology course, she will have earned a degree in psychology.
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14 Sep 2010, 23:57
I disagree with the OA.

I think it should be E.

The arguments said that if A finishes both Exp and Dev course, she will earn the degree. However, it doesn't said Exp or Dev is required for the degree. It just may happen that these two are elective and she needs to complete her degree. Therefore i think answer D is wrong.
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15 Sep 2010, 00:19
gautrang wrote:
I disagree with the OA.

I think it should be E.

The arguments said that if A finishes both Exp and Dev course, she will earn the degree. However, it doesn't said Exp or Dev is required for the degree. It just may happen that these two are elective and she needs to complete her degree. Therefore i think answer D is wrong.

for me it looks like both D and E are good!!!!!!!!!!!
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15 Sep 2010, 01:35
I think it's C... the main point is that the course will be completed in two terms. by the way is this question complete because i couldnt find the question stem anywhere!!!
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15 Sep 2010, 02:50
i think D
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15 Sep 2010, 04:17
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On completing both the course in experimental design and the developmental psychology course, Angela will have earned a degree in psychology. Since experimental design, which must be completed before taking developmental psychology, will not be offered until next term, it will be at least two terms before Angela gets her psychology degree

(A) The developmental psychology course Angela needs to take requires two terms to complete.
(B) The course in experimental design is an easier course than the course in developmental psychology.
(C) There are no prerequisites for the course in experimental design.
(D) Anyone who earns a degree in psychology from the university Angela attends will have completed the course in experimental design.
(E) Once Angela completes the developmental psychology course, she will have earned a degree in psychology.

D,E are close, so explain why if choosing one over other.

Answer is d. The question says One has to complete ED and DP to get Psycho degree. Therefore, anyone who has got the degree must have completed ED.

Completing ED and DP does not mean Degree in Psycho. There can be other exams to clear before getting the degree.

Hope I'm clear.
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D is absolutely wrong. It's a pretty big leap going from requirements specific for Angela to requirements for everyone at the university. Just because Angela needs to complete both courses to get the degree does not mean it has to be the same for everyone else.

E is the correct response. The stimulus clearly states that once Angela finishes both experimental design and developmental psychology, she will have earned the degree. Hence, it follows that if she completes the developmental psychology course, she will have earned a degree in psychology.

OP needs to change the credited OA.
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16 Sep 2010, 22:58
rgtiwari wrote:
BlueRobin wrote:
On completing both the course in experimental design and the developmental psychology course, Angela will have earned a degree in psychology. Since experimental design, which must be completed before taking developmental psychology, will not be offered until next term, it will be at least two terms before Angela gets her psychology degree

(A) The developmental psychology course Angela needs to take requires two terms to complete.
(B) The course in experimental design is an easier course than the course in developmental psychology.
(C) There are no prerequisites for the course in experimental design.
(D) Anyone who earns a degree in psychology from the university Angela attends will have completed the course in experimental design.
(E) Once Angela completes the developmental psychology course, she will have earned a degree in psychology.

D,E are close, so explain why if choosing one over other.

Answer is d. The question says One has to complete ED and DP to get Psycho degree. Therefore, anyone who has got the degree must have completed ED.

Completing ED and DP does not mean Degree in Psycho. There can be other exams to clear before getting the degree.

Hope I'm clear.

My vote is for D. I agree with rgtiwari.

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D is absolutely wrong. It's a pretty big leap going from requirements specific for Angela to requirements for everyone at the university. Just because Angela needs to complete both courses to get the degree does not mean it has to be the same for everyone else.

I do not agree. The fact that Angela has to wait for at least 2 terms to complete experimental design signifies the importance of the course and it should be a mandatory course for all students.
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17 Sep 2010, 02:51
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I do not agree. The fact that Angela has to wait for at least 2 terms to complete experimental design signifies the importance of the course and it should be a mandatory course for all students.

Wrong, Angela doesn't have to wait 2 terms to complete exp des, she needs only 1 term to finish it and then another term to finish psy, complete both and she gets her degree.

There is no where in the argument where it is said that both these courses are required for the degree. It just required for Angela, that's all we know. To conclude: "ALL" is too extreme. Like I said, it could just be 2 elective courses that Angela has to finish to get enough credit to get her degree.

D is WRONG.
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17 Sep 2010, 03:30
D for me.
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17 Sep 2010, 07:07
My vote for E

D seems to make the assumption that whatever is applicable for Angela is applicable for everyone in the university.
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Vote for E.

(D) Anyone who earns a degree in psychology from the university Angela attends will have completed the course in experimental design.

The author has mentioned that by giving exam Exp and dev , one can earn the degree of psychology. What if giving exam A and B also help someone earning the same degree?
PHD and MBBS both give doctoral degrees, do we have to give same exams?
This is just over generalization.
Moreover, what if these 2 subjects are the last 2 elective subjects? and not the core part of core-curriculum?
in that case others do not have to complete the exp design. This answer actually reverses the causal relationship.

(E) Once Angela completes the developmental psychology course, she will have earned a degree in psychology.

Since without Exp she can not complete dev course => she will have earned a degree after the course.

BlueRobin: I would suggest you to write the question properly and if possible on your first post do not ask your question, instead reply to the same post, this will certainly avoid prejudicial inclination towards any option.
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19 Sep 2010, 23:09
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On completing both the course in experimental design and the developmental psychology course, Angela will have earned a degree in psychology. Since experimental design, which must be completed before taking developmental psychology, will not be offered until next term, it will be at least two terms before Angela gets her psychology degree

(A) The developmental psychology course Angela needs to take requires two terms to complete.
(B) The course in experimental design is an easier course than the course in developmental psychology.
(C) There are no prerequisites for the course in experimental design.
(D) Anyone who earns a degree in psychology from the university Angela attends will have completed the course in experimental design.
(E) Once Angela completes the developmental psychology course, she will have earned a degree in psychology.

D,E are close, so explain why if choosing one over other.

Available information

On completing X and Y, Angie will get certified.
One must take up X before Y.

D)Anyone who gets certfied, had completed X. Yes makes sense.
E)On the completion of Y, One gets certified, Maybe cant say for sure.
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19 Sep 2010, 23:25
Guys.. a instructor from Kaplan says - (check out http://www.beatthegmat.com/lsar-cr-psyc ... 39164.html)
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Either the original poster mistranscribed the problem or else mistranscribed the OA. This is an inference question requiring skill in formal logic (for that reason, it is unlikely that you would get a question like this on the GMAT).

The first sentence of the passage reads:

"On completing both the course in experimental design and the developmental psychology course, Angela will have earned a degree in psychology."

This yields the following conditoinal statement:

If she completes ED AND DP, then she will have earned her psych degree.

The second sentence tells us that ED MUST be completed before DP. Therefore:

If someone has completed DP, then they have also completed ED.

Therefore, if she completes DP, then it is sufficient to conclude that she has also completed ED. And if she completes both DP and ED, then it is sufficient to conclude that she will have earned her psych degree.

Accordingly, Choice E MUST be correct.

Choice D must be wrong. It improperly reverses the initial conditional statement (without negating).

That is, in the first conditional statement, her having earned a psych degree is a conclusion or necessary condition. Choice D is trying to use her having earned a psych degree as a trigger or sufficient condition.

For example, if you are a dog, then you are definitely a mammal. Does that mean that if you are a mammal, you are definitely a dog? That is what choice D is doing.

Folks, GMAT does NOT test these formal logic subtleties.
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D is wrong , no where is it stated that experimental design course is needed for a degree in psychology.

the question is specific to angela and hence E.
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11 Sep 2013, 05:39
Why is there no question at all? only text and answers
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