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Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

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09 Nov 2009, 09:38
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It cant be A

read it again and get the total picture
apart from TENSE issue
there is another Wrong COMPARISON ISSUE here
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man
the Body=the man

pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

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I chose A. Could someone explain me what's wrong with A?
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09 Nov 2009, 09:42
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A has 2 problems

1) DID NOT DOUBT should be HAD NO DOUBTS
because if you notice the start of the sentence,it says "ONCE THEY BALH BLAH BLAH" which means when they started off with the experiment,tthey had some doubts whch got resolved when they BLAH BLAH BLAH...this EFFECT is not represented as well by DID NOT DOUBT as by HAD NO DOUBTS

2) "BODY RECOVERED WAS" THE MAN
new found BODY is being compared with MAN when actually
new found BODY should be compared with THE BODY OF THE MAN..
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09 Nov 2009, 09:43
Oh well done!! I did not see that !
I was too focused on tenses issues...

By the way, if this comparison were ok... would the tense of the first sentence be good?

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09 Nov 2009, 10:09
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Oh well done!! I did not see that !
I was too focused on tenses issues...

By the way, if this comparison were ok... would the tense of the first sentence be good?

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Yes,it wuld have been correct.
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22 Sep 2010, 00:38
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Oh well done!! I did not see that !
I was too focused on tenses issues...

By the way, if this comparison were ok... would the tense of the first sentence be good?

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Yes these are actual issues not fake.
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22 Sep 2010, 07:02
I think the key to recognizing that tense issue if your having trouble is to re-read it again slowly comparing the to be verbs to the tense of the lead in. That normally is a dead give away.
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22 Sep 2010, 20:17
Good post. Simple question but points out common traps.
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22 Sep 2010, 21:48
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of CORRECT

the sentence is in past perfect tense. So we need past tense not the present tense.
whether the body recovered from the river was ....
we have two options here
was(the man)--here comparing the body with the man
was that of---here comparing the body with that of the man...

So E is correct ans
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13 Oct 2010, 02:32
Straight E.

A is incorrect due to Tense Issue as also Incorrct comparison
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13 Oct 2010, 06:36
simple but worthwhile
E stands out
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During the question I was trying to match PAST PERFECT to SIMPLE PAST. I picked A originally since "did not doubt" sounded like SIMPLE PAST tense to me. I couldn't understand why E was correct. This was bothering me all morning until I realized that I incorrectly thought "had no doubt" was in PAST PERFECT tense. In fact it is in SIMPLE PAST tense. Everytime I see "had" my mind thinks past perfect.
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20 Apr 2011, 14:30
+1 E

The body is not the man himself. It is the body OF the man.
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13 Jul 2011, 04:36
E for me.

I have a question. Can the word "doubt" and "whether" be used in the same sentence, If so than can anyone frame such a grammatically correct sentence?
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15 Sep 2011, 19:00
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

Issues -

1. Tense, which is wrong in B and D, should be in past form as in A, C and E.
2. Mood/Logic - "the body ........... was man" in A, B and C is in passive and illogical. "The body ........... was of the man" in D and E correct.
3. Stress/Emphasis - To express/emphasize something strongly, "verb + no" is more appropriate than "verb + not".

Considering these, E is the winner.
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22 Sep 2011, 10:27
Yes.
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Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

The question revolves around tenses, meaning.
As the veb in non-underlined part is past perfect, underlined part needs a simple past tense verb that acts as reference.
A - correct tense. A body can't be a man, a body is of a man. incorrect
B - have - wrong tense. body was man error
C - had not doubted? wrong tense. body was man error.
D - have no doubt - wrong tense, totally. body was that of man - correct
E - had no doubt - correct tense. body that of man - correct
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22 Sep 2011, 10:32
also, doubt in a negative statement should be used with that
I don't doubt that I will succeed - correct
I don't doubt whether I will succeed - incorrect
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01 Nov 2011, 23:09
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

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E wins. A is wrong because "Body" cannot be "the man". Wrong comparison. E clears that problem.
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29 Dec 2011, 19:55
why does everyone keep saying the usage of "that of the man" is because of a comparison?

I don't see any comparison signals. In fact, it is saying the "body was the man", or "body was that of the man" . wouldn't this fall under equality, logic, or meaning?

the mgmat guide on comparisons shows nothing about "was"
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