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# Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the

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Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

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I chose A. Could someone explain me what's wrong with A?
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09 Nov 2009, 09:38
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It cant be A

read it again and get the total picture
apart from TENSE issue
there is another Wrong COMPARISON ISSUE here
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man
the Body=the man

pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

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I chose A. Could someone explain me what's wrong with A?
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09 Nov 2009, 09:42
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A has 2 problems

1) DID NOT DOUBT should be HAD NO DOUBTS
because if you notice the start of the sentence,it says "ONCE THEY BALH BLAH BLAH" which means when they started off with the experiment,tthey had some doubts whch got resolved when they BLAH BLAH BLAH...this EFFECT is not represented as well by DID NOT DOUBT as by HAD NO DOUBTS

2) "BODY RECOVERED WAS" THE MAN
new found BODY is being compared with MAN when actually
new found BODY should be compared with THE BODY OF THE MAN..

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09 Nov 2009, 09:43
Oh well done!! I did not see that !
I was too focused on tenses issues...

By the way, if this comparison were ok... would the tense of the first sentence be good?

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09 Nov 2009, 10:09
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Oh well done!! I did not see that !
I was too focused on tenses issues...

By the way, if this comparison were ok... would the tense of the first sentence be good?

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Yes,it wuld have been correct.

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22 Sep 2010, 00:38
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Oh well done!! I did not see that !
I was too focused on tenses issues...

By the way, if this comparison were ok... would the tense of the first sentence be good?

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Yes these are actual issues not fake.
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22 Sep 2010, 07:02
I think the key to recognizing that tense issue if your having trouble is to re-read it again slowly comparing the to be verbs to the tense of the lead in. That normally is a dead give away.

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22 Sep 2010, 20:17
Good post. Simple question but points out common traps.

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22 Sep 2010, 21:48
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Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of CORRECT

the sentence is in past perfect tense. So we need past tense not the present tense.
whether the body recovered from the river was ....
we have two options here
was(the man)--here comparing the body with the man
was that of---here comparing the body with that of the man...

So E is correct ans

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13 Oct 2010, 02:32
Straight E.

A is incorrect due to Tense Issue as also Incorrct comparison
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13 Oct 2010, 06:36
simple but worthwhile
E stands out

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Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(8) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

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01 Mar 2011, 09:45
The split is 3:2 a,b,c or c,d
first of all you have to find "those" or "that". The reason is the body was not the man. The body was "that" of the man. That said a,b,c gone.

C uses "have" which is definitely a tense problem. E remains. This is without getting into past perfect issue.

Your other question is - My thinking is that "had seen" would indicate something which started in past to end before another event in past. Then the event following this should be with a simple past tense.

On the time line "seen" is before "recovered". First they saw the body, recovered the body, investigated the body. This is sequence of the events. But I think you were trying to sequence "had seen" and "had doubt". If you take a closer look it not "had doubted" its "had doubt". So this sequencing is wrong.

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Folks can someone help me out with the following question from OG 12.

Once they had seen the report from the medical
examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether
the body recovered from the river was the man who
had attempted to escape from the state prison.
(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from
the river was
(8) have no doubt whether the body recovered
from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from
the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered
from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the
river was that of

The correct answer is mentioned as E but I thought it to be A. My thinking is that "had seen" would indicate something which started in past to end before another event in past. Then the event following this should be with a simple past tense.

But going with the OG answer, it would mean that the following event will also be past perfect. Any clarifications?

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that is fairly simple. the answer has to be E
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The split is 3:2 a,b,c or c,d
first of all you have to find "those" or "that". The reason is the body was not the man. The body was "that" of the man. That said a,b,c gone.

C uses "have" which is definitely a tense problem. E remains. This is without getting into past perfect issue.

Your other question is - My thinking is that "had seen" would indicate something which started in past to end before another event in past. Then the event following this should be with a simple past tense.

On the time line "seen" is before "recovered". First they saw the body, recovered the body, investigated the body. This is sequence of the events. But I think you were trying to sequence "had seen" and "had doubt". If you take a closer look it not "had doubted" its "had doubt". So this sequencing is wrong.

karankhinchi wrote:
Folks can someone help me out with the following question from OG 12.

Once they had seen the report from the medical
examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether
the body recovered from the river was the man who
had attempted to escape from the state prison.
(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from
the river was
(8) have no doubt whether the body recovered
from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from
the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered
from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the
river was that of

The correct answer is mentioned as E but I thought it to be A. My thinking is that "had seen" would indicate something which started in past to end before another event in past. Then the event following this should be with a simple past tense.

But going with the OG answer, it would mean that the following event will also be past perfect. Any clarifications?

1. A body cannot man so that of required.
2. simple past of have i.e, had is required.
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02 Mar 2011, 09:26
(A) is simple present
(B) & (D) present perfect

is that right guys?

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Thanks a lot guys for a quick response. Gives some clarity

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Friends.....caught with the below mentioned SC's.

1. Defense attorneys have occasionally argued that their clients' misconduct stemmed from a reaction to something ingested, but in attributing criminal or delinguent behavior to some food allergy, the perpetrators are in effect told that they are not responsible for their actions.

a) in attributing criminal or delinguent behavior to some food allergy
b) if criminal or delinquent behavior is attributed to an allergy to some food,
c) in attributing behavior that is criminal or delinquent to an allergy to some food,
d) if some food allergy is attributed as the cause of criminal or delinquent behavior,
e) in attributing a food allergy as the cause of criminal or delinquent behavior,

2. Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about \$5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were last year.

A) Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this
year than last because refiners are paying about
\$5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were
(B) Heating-oil prices are expected to rise higher
this year over last because refiners pay about
\$5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
(C) Expectations are for heating-oil prices to be
higher this year than last year's because refiners
are paying about \$5 a barrel for crude oil more
than they did
(D) It is the expectation that heating-oil prices will be
higher for this year over last because refiners
are paying about \$5 a barrel more for crude oil
now than what they were
(E) It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise
higher this year than last year's because refiners
pay about \$5 a barrel for crude oil more than
they did

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the first one was straight forward . anyone will answer E
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