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One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.

(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries
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This is one of the Brutal SC questions i believe...

I wanted to take a new look at this question because there was mass confusion over this question.

"directive" is a noun, not a verb. it is misleading because answer choices starts with "that" signifying a subjunctive mood.

directive verb + that + subject + base verb

anyone care to refute my explanation/answer?

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559. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.

(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale (to other countries) (of any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States)
(D) prohibiting that (any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States) is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries
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This is one of the Brutal SC questions i believe...

I wanted to take a new look at this question because there was mass confusion over this question.

"directive" is a noun, not a verb. it is misleading because answer choices starts with "that" signifying a subjunctive mood.

directive verb + that + subject + base verb

anyone care to refute my explanation/answer?

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559. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.

(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale (to other countries) (of any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States)
(D) prohibiting that (any chemical banned on medical grounds) (in the United States) is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries

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sorry. made a mistake. (live and learn)
ABE are wrong for the reasons stated above.

D is wrong because the idiom is prohibit x from Y
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16. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries---Seems to be correct one-no issues
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States----Lengthy sentence
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States----prohibiting is not making sense
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries-----"is sold" is not in agreement with past
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries---"is prohibited" is not in agreement


"A" for me,,though "B" is also looking good :)
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IMO C.

I think, use of "that" here is incorrect. Here "any chemical banned on...." is modifying "directive". This modifier can be placed directly "directly prohibiting the sale...."
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16. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries


I opted for C for following reasons:

1) One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive ==> is in itself is a complete sentence, we can classify the "directive" by using the participle phrase (using 'prohibiting')

2) Even if we want to use 'that' after directive, we need to say directive that prohibits ....blah..blah..
'that any chemical bond ...' doesn't seem correct to me after directive in this case.

Will greatly appreciate the opinions!
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there is a big difference in the meaning between choice A and choice C

Choice A says : some previous president implemented X and the new president came and revoked it. So, if X were STOPPED HAPPENING in the previous president's regime, the new president has revoked it (that means he STARTED IT)

Choice C says: it completely talks this opposite.

The new president came in and revoked a previous rule. The new rule is actually STOPPING something from happening.

Now, talking in language of the question

If both option A and option C were to be the same, we would need a 'comma' after 'carter's directive'. In this case, 'prohibiting' will modify 'carter's directive'.

Without the comma 'prohibiting' is modifying 'Ronald Regan's first act'
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there is a big difference in the meaning between choice A and choice C
Without the comma 'prohibiting' is modifying 'Ronald Regan's first act'


I think it should be other way around: with comma it will modify the 'act' not without the comma.
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16. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries


It was between A & C for me. I chose A quite quickly because C seemed awkward.

OA's provided are nearly always right and this is from the Brutal SC document which has been around for a while.

The only mistake I can come up with for A is "that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries" could be "that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from being sold to other countries"

Let's try to come up with an example:

The law states that all Kiera Knightly pictures be prohibited from "being sold"/"sale" - seems right.

Tough one.

Perhaps you could also argue that the directive was the prohibition of the sale and that has to be tackled first in the statement - therefore C.
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16. One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries


it is tough ...
I can eliminate C for misplaced 'chemical' .."sale to other countries of any chemical banned "

here "of any chemical banned " should be closer to "sale" ..it should read something like this
"sale of any chemical banned to other countries ..."

but I have questions in A as well though ..

prohibit from X is correct idiom but here 'X' is noun right? "prohibit from sale " is n't 'sale' verb here?

If I have to, I choose A .. :-D

is this a tough question or a not well composed question?
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My reasons for selecting C over A are:

1. option A and B are using subjunctive mood. I don't think we should use subjunctive mood here, since the option is just explaining or narrating what President Carter’s directive was. Its not that President Carter is giving his direction now itself.

2. In option C, "prohibiting" is correctly modifying "President Carter’s directive" since there is no comma.
Introduction of comma here would create ambiguity, as in that case "prohibiting" would be modifying either "President Carter’s directive" or "Ronald Reagan’s first acts" :roll:
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Can someone explain why D is being neglected here?
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries

"prohibiting that any..." is a modifier that modifies noun (directive) and is directly touching it, as noun modifiers are suppose to.

In (A), "Sale" is a noun and "from sale...", we are using it as verb which IMO is awkard.

OA and desc please.
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Guys found the below at http://gmattoughies.blogspot.com/

Participle Modifier (w/ and w/o comma)
If the comma is not there, the participial modifier must modify whatever noun directly precedes it. If the comma is there, then the participial modifier is taken to modify the preceding clause as a whole (or particularly the verb of that clause).
to wit:
tom received the court order [NO COMMA] restricting his movements outside the city --> the court order itself restricts tom's movements. we can infer that tom's movements are already restricted by the court order, regardless of whether he has received it.
tom received the court order, restricting his movements outside the city --> tom's movements were not restricted until he received the order.

by the way, the second of these sentences isn't that great: tom is the subject of that sentence, so the modifier implies that tom restricted his own movements by receiving the order. to convey the meaning more precisely, you'd say something like tom received the court order, thus activating orbringing into effect restrictions on...'


Ex: One of Ronald Reagan’s first acts as President was to rescind President Carter’s directivethat any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.
(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries


Ans C
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tom received the court order [NO COMMA] restricting his movements outside the city
tom received the court order that restricted his movement outside the city ( i guess sentence must be originally like this ) so if v want to make it shrter then v'll write it like first sentence . instead of ed verb form v'll use restricting...
but the sentence here it is different coz directive is definately subjunctive but the carter's directive was of the past .... subjunctive is generally i guess for future ...... so subjunctive doent apply here so thats why ans is c ....
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A - Subjunctive is used here. Incorrect.
B - Seems that "banned" describes countries. Also, "was" is ambigous or simply wrong. Also, see A above.
C - Correct.
D - The second word, "that," is excessive.
E - "Is . . . being" sounds terrible. Also, see A above.

I agree with Bigoyal; subjunctive mood is used for options A, B, and E. We can use -ing words to directly describe nouns:

The man standing on the porch.
The car passing the store.
The star ship floating in outer space.

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But shouldn't prohibit be followed by "from" ? ...as an idiomatic expression.


That's exactly what I was thinking. I actually chose E just because I thought that the correct idiom is "prohibit X from Y". But after reading all the comments, I have more doubts than before.
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Can someone explain why D is being neglected here?
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries

"prohibiting that any..." is a modifier that modifies noun (directive) and is directly touching it, as noun modifiers are suppose to.

In (A), "Sale" is a noun and "from sale...", we are using it as verb which IMO is awkard.

OA and desc please.


A tough one! The OA is C.

D is wrong probably because "prohibited that" is not idiomatic. It should be "prohibited X from verb-ing ..."
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Here is another reason why A is incorrect (taken from http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/one ... t2126.html)

* you don't use "X is prohibited from ..." unless X is a person.
the chemical is prohibited from being sold --> wrong
chemical companies are prohibited from selling the chemical --> correct
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should be C. The below descriptino might help everyone:

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i like choice c better for two reasons.

- 'directive that ... be prohibited' is more awkward than 'directive prohibiting ...', and may in fact be considered incorrect. (from what i've seen, the use of 'directive' is similar to that of 'law', and you can't say things like 'prohibition was a law that the sale of alcohol be prohibited'.)
- 'prohibited from sale': i'm pretty sure that's wrong. the correct use of the idiom in this case would be 'chemical companies were prohibited from selling chemicals...'
you could also say that the sale of such chemicals is prohibited.

there's no ambiguity. this issue is settled nicely and neatly by the presence/absence of a comma. if the comma is not there, the participial modifier must modify whatever noun directly precedes it. if the comma is there, then the participial modifier is taken to modify the preceding clause as a whole (or particularly the verb of that clause).
to wit:
tom received the court order [NO COMMA] restricting his movements outside the city --> the court order itself restricts tom's movements. we can infer that tom's movements are already restricted by the court order, regardless of whether he has received it.
tom received the court order, restricting his movements outside the city --> tom's movements were not restricted until he received the order.

by the way, the second of these sentences isn't that great: tom is the subject of that sentence, so the modifier implies that tom restricted his own movements by receiving the order. to convey the meaning more precisely, you'd say something like tom received the court order, thus activating or bringing into effect restrictions on...'
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IMO C..

The reason that I highlighted in the other post..
directive prohibiting is correct and not directive that prohibit
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