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28 Nov 2012, 23:25
Answer is provided by many guys appropriately. Just trying to explain the difference between usage of fewer and less.

Fewer:
Fewer is used with countable nouns: people, animals, chairs, shoes.

1.You know fewer people than I do.
2.There should be fewer books on the table.
3.I have fewer ideas than everyone else.
4.Fewer of us show up each year.

Less
Less is used for uncountable, usually abstract nouns: money, happiness, snow, idealism.

1.I hope less snow falls this year.
2.We need more money and less debt.
3.I have less computer savvy than you.
4.You should spend less of your time complaining.

1.I'm less happy than I used to be.
2.He runs less quickly than you.
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03 Feb 2013, 23:43
Ankit04041987 wrote:
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.

A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones

Only seven HAVE BEEN KILLED by Animal A- less/fewer than HAVE BEEN by Animal B.

C,D and E are out because "which", "a number", "fewer" touch the movies. By touch rule, these phrases modify the movies. This is incorrect.
Now, we are left with A and B. We need to maintain parallelism and only B uses HAVE BEEN...

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Can someone throw some light on why E is wrong and when to use the touch rule of modifier ...
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Can someone throw some light on why E is wrong and when to use the touch rule of modifier ...

There is a verb tense error in E

Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.

B. movies—fewer than have been (killed)
E. movies, fewer than the ones (killed)

The touching rule is used for noun-modifiers and has only few exceptions:
1)parallel structure like
noun, which(touches the noun) .... and which (does not touch the noun, but is in a parallel structure)
2)noun with modifiers or prepositional phrases like
the car of the year (prep phrase) that won the championship(refers to the car even if it touches the noun "year")

At the moment I cannot remember any other case... hope this answers your question!
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17 Sep 2013, 07:23
Zarrolou wrote:
2)noun with modifiers or prepositional phrases like
the car of the year (prep phrase) that won the championship(refers to the car even if it touches the noun "year")

At the moment I cannot remember any other case... hope this answers your question!

Above Rule does have exceptions, and depends on the meaning of the sentence.
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07 Jan 2014, 17:41
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Vips0000 wrote:
So going by this logic, would you consider 'fish' as countable or uncountable? you can surely count fish but cant add S at the end (or if you do, it would be a blunder )
I think MGMAT's strategy with this is best: just see if counting 1 , 2, 3 etc makes sense with it. eg. 1 bottle , 2 bottles, 3 bottles etc. or 1 fish, 2 fish, 3 fish.

Ah yes, that's a good way of thinking about it. You are the man Vips.

Shouldn't one close the dash?

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22 Oct 2014, 00:11
anon1 wrote:
I don't understand why "less' can't be used with people.

I don't consider people a count noun.

We don't say "peoples"

My definition of a "count noun" is a noun that can be plural by adding an S. Like Bottle. There are 5 water bottles here. Am I wrong?

For example, wine is non-count. How much less wine do you want?

I guess we do say, there are "5 people" here... but no S at the end.

Can someone chime in ?

When we say 5 people, we can count 5 people, can't we?
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06 Jun 2015, 06:09
by realizing the illogic elements in the answer choices, we can go to the OA.

but we should learn the usage in the oa and a problem arise.

what is the subject to the second part in oa?

we can not say that gmat oa is wrong but we should think that what we should learn from this oa.

the patterns presented by oa is editted many times by gmac persons and is worth learning.
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20 Feb 2016, 13:35
I simplified the sentence to, "Fewer people have been killed by the shark than been stings"
Although D still looked tempting but numbers can't get killed by sharks.

Then I had to pick between B+ E.

"fewer than the ones" is unclear as to who "the ones" are. Movies? Sharks? People?
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27 Aug 2016, 01:30
Here is a different approach to those commented in the previous posts.

Ankit04041987 wrote:
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.

A) movies—less than those
It is not clear what does "those" refer to. Does it refer to movies, great white sharks or people?
B) movies—fewer than have been
C) movies, which is less than those
The use of "which" right after the comma conveys the meaning that the movies are "less than those killed by bee stings".
Furthermore, it is not clear what does "those" refer to. Does it refer to movies, great white sharks or people?

D) movies, a number lower than the people
The use of "a number" right after the comma conveys the meaning that the movies are "a number lower than the people killed by bee stings".
E) movies, fewer than the ones
The use of "fewer" right after the comma conveys the meaning that the movies are "fewer than the ones killed by bee stings".
Furthermore, it is not clear what does "the ones" refer to. Does it refer to movies, great white sharks or people?
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