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Hi All, This is my first post in GMATClub. I have been silently following the forums for around 6 months now and it has been really a great help. I will write my GMAT, TOEFL and MBA Application experience in detail once I finalize the school I am matriculating from and start loan and visa processing.

Currently, I am in a bit of dilemma after the results of my R1 applications and any advice from persons with relevant knowledge will help me finalize my decision.

My profile – Indian, 34 years old, 11 years of experience in IT Product Development and Services, Currently working as a Project Manager managing a 30 member team for an Indian IT giant, GMAT – 760, TOEFL – 112, have around 4 years of international experience working in UK, want to be in IT Product Management or IT Program Management or Technology Consulting after MBA preferably outside India.

My main choices after R1 is Said Oxford without scholarship and Boston University (Questrom) MS-MBA in Information System with Full scholarship and an extra $10K scholarship. Without the scholarship at BU, Oxford wins hands down. However, I am trying to compare these two only because of the scholarship as Said will mean an extra $80K debt for me.

The pros for Said are –
Oxford Brand,
1 year only so opportunity cost will be around the same as BU.

The cons for Said are –
Getting a job in UK will be very difficult as an Indian due to the current visa rules,
with the amount of debt a job in India will be the last option I would take.

The pros for BU are –
The MS-MBA in Information System program is aligned to my goal,
Minimal debt due to scholarship and I can even think of coming back to India for a job,
Opens an opportunity in US with the location of Boston.

The cons for BU are –
Almost no brand value, overshadowed in Boston by heavy-weights such as Harvard, MIT,
Getting a job in US will still be difficult with my experience and with only the brand of BU,
Even if I come back to India it will be difficult to find a suitable job with only the BU brand which is not that recognized in India.

Even with the uncertain situation of UK Visa and jobs, I am inclined towards Oxford due to the brand value as it will probably compensate the short term hurdles in the longer term. I might consider BU only if someone can provide me a very strong reason. Looking forward to your advices.
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Welcome to GMAT Club and congratulations on your great admits and esp at your age!

I think it is a pretty good comparison/trade off between the schools and you have outlined the main considerations. I would say Said would be a choice for someone looking for a challenge as you will have to lock in a job and jump through some of the immigration hoops - I recommend that you very carefully examine the immigration laws and their potential changes (hire an attorney for a few hours perhaps - it will be $500 or $750 spent well) to cover your butt. The UK visa system is fairly crazy and I have no idea what Syrian refugee crisis has done or will do to it. There won't be an easy way for you to transition to US unless you can recruit into a US position, which is tough right out of school (you would need to possess the skills/talents needed). If your plan to live/work in the US, then this is not the right school. However, for someone looking at UK/Canada/India as the final destination, this is a very strong brand name in those locales.

As to the BU - that's a safe choice. You will be comfy and cushy during the 2 years with a nice internship in the summer, easy one-year work permit, and usually a fairly straightforward H1B work permit after that. It is cheap and safe, giving you less stress and more focus on your program, studies, career planning, etc. One thing to keep in mind is that in the US, international work experience is usually not valued as high as US-based experience, so you will not be able to easily cash in on your years of work. You will need to work for it to demonstrate your skills during an internship.

So are you up for a challenge? Does it make you too uncomfortable and you prefer a less stressfull MBA?
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himpuju wrote:
The cons for BU are –
Almost no brand value,


I dont completely agree. It is a fairly recognized school especially in NE area.

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Getting a job in US will still be difficult with my experience and with only the brand of BU,


I have no doubt that you WILL get a job. Whether it will be your dream job or not thats a different question.

On a different note: I think you can do much better even considering your age. I am saying this in spite of being fully aware that B school prefer younger candidates these days.
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Thanks bb for your valuable suggestions. You have made some very valid points. They have given me something to ponder over BU. However, I am still up for the challenge at Said.

NoHalfMeasures - Thanks for your comments. They have given some points to BU as well. I agree that the 'almost no brand' is not exactly the correct expression, but I was comparing it with Oxford with the context of all over the world. I agree with your second comment as well about getting a job. About other schools, I am wait-listed in Tepper and did not get an interview in Haas, but I am still trying 2-3 top 20 schools in R2. For now, I want to secure a R1 admit by paying the deposit as the deadline is before the deadline of R2 results and with my age and experience I don't want to delay the MBA for one more year.
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Welcome to GMAT Club and congratulations on your great admits and esp at your age!

You will be comfy and cushy during the 2 years with a nice internship in the summer, easy one-year work permit, and usually a fairly straightforward H1B work permit after that.


bb you seem very confident that he'll get H1-B but last year only 1 of 3 applicants got it. I would love to read the reasons of your confidence.
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Welcome to GMAT Club and congratulations on your great admits and esp at your age!

You will be comfy and cushy during the 2 years with a nice internship in the summer, easy one-year work permit, and usually a fairly straightforward H1B work permit after that.


bb you seem very confident that he'll get H1-B but last year only 1 of 3 applicants got it. I would love to read the reasons of your confidence.


I also would love to hear from bb on this because I have the same deal with BU.
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Welcome to GMAT Club and congratulations on your great admits and esp at your age!

You will be comfy and cushy during the 2 years with a nice internship in the summer, easy one-year work permit, and usually a fairly straightforward H1B work permit after that.


bb you seem very confident that he'll get H1-B but last year only 1 of 3 applicants got it. I would love to read the reasons of your confidence.


My argument was that, the US work permit situation is better than the UK one; not necessarily that the US one was guaranteed. But I think it is right to get specific. Here it goes - my data and evidence are fairly limited in scope only to people I keep in touch via this forum and a few friends in the US who are on H1B. All of them have received visas over the last few years and I have not heard anyone on GMAT Club posting a sorry message they did not (that does not mean they did not face the issue, I just have not heard).

Now, I am not an immigration attorney and I don't keep tabs on the immigration/visa stuff but here are my thoughts. The obvious one is that in addition to the regular CAP that starts filling up on April 1st, there are also 20K slots for advanced degree holders, which is meaningful since re-applicants holding H1B are exempt. Is 1 in 3 advanced applicants or ALL applicants? There is some pain associated with timing of H1B and I can't remember what people do these days to bridge the gap between the end of OPT and Oct 1st date, but that's a tangent. I believe if you are lucky enough to snag a job by April 1st before you graduate, you may be able to apply early and get 2 shots at it (or rather your employer gets to do that) - this is why the internship is very important to make yourself useful and wanted.

Another reason for confidence is that the economy is booking at the moment and unemployment is at pretty low levels, indicating that it will be tough for Google and Amazon to find talent and they will likely lobby to increase the cap for H1B Advanced Degree holders (it has been shrinking and expanding over the last 15 years depending on the political and economic situations). The caps lag a year or two in timing, so usually they will increase them by the time it is too late and they will shrink them again, at the time, they should be expanding. Feast to famine type of situation. Since we are in the "famine" category at the moment, it is likely to be an excess situation in the coming years.

Finally, we are talking about something that is in this case 3 or 4 years away. By that time it may be a situation with abundance of H1B slots as it happened in late 2000's or it may be so tight that no international student can get a job under president Trump. We are speculating at the moment about something we cannot control or have certainty in. We just don't know, and in these cases i prefer the glass-half-full perspective.
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Thanks all for your suggestions and votes.

I have almost decided on Oxford Said mostly due to the brand and 1 year timeline. I will pay the deposit soon.

However, one thing I would like to mention for future applicants and others that the OTP you get after Boston University MS-MBA is valid for 29 months as opposed to 12 months for normal MBAs. It is because one gets 12 months for the MBA degree and extra 17 months for the MS degree as it is a dual degree program. So one gets to apply for H1B at least three times and this really reduces the risk of H1B rejection. This is a great advantage for the MS-MBA program. So the point mentioned above by BB is valid.
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Thanks all for your suggestions and votes.

I have almost decided on Oxford Said mostly due to the brand and 1 year timeline. I will pay the deposit soon.

However, one thing I would like to mention for future applicants and others that the OTP you get after Boston University MS-MBA is valid for 29 months as opposed to 12 months for normal MBAs. It is because one gets 12 months for the MBA degree and extra 17 months for the MS degree as it is a dual degree program. So one gets to apply for H1B at least three times and this really reduces the risk of H1B rejection. This is a great advantage for the MS-MBA program. So the point mentioned above by BB is valid.


Hi Himpuju - on the 29 month OPT - did you get this confirmed from BU?
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I did not confirm it from BU. But all 5 current students and recent alumni I spoke to confirmed the same. This is a dual degree program that offers both MBA and MS. I got the information from other people as well that you get 12 month OPT for MBA and extra 17 month OPT for a STEM degree according to current rules.
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So himpuju, are you matriculating at Oxford?
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Cool, good luck!
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Take a look at the business school reviews just in case for both schools to set your expectations. I know said is mentioned there. Can't remember about BU.
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Thanks bb. I have taken a look at those already. They were helpful and were in line with the expectation set by the current students and alumni whom I have spoken to.
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