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I got all of them right except Q6. I feel the answer for Q6. should be E not A as from passage - The near extinction of the Javan rhino is the direct result of human actions. For centuries, farmers, who favored the same habitat, viewed them as crop eating pests and shot them on sight. During the colonial period, hunters slaughtered thousands. , we can infer that no two events could be concluded with certainty as most responsible for near extinction. Instead, the cumulative human actions of the past are most responsible for near extinctions of human.

Please post OE if anyone has. Thanks.
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I got all of them right except Q6. I feel the answer for Q6. should be E not A as from passage - The near extinction of the Javan rhino is the direct result of human actions. For centuries, farmers, who favored the same habitat, viewed them as crop eating pests and shot them on sight. During the colonial period, hunters slaughtered thousands. , we can infer that no two events could be concluded with certainty as most responsible for near extinction. Instead, the cumulative human actions of the past are most responsible for near extinctions of human.

Please post OE if anyone has. Thanks.


I too opted for E. Could an expert please help explain why A is better than E?
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need some expert to weigh in for question 2.

Refer to below sentences in the passage.
Now, human efforts to save them may well prove futile. The Vietnamese herd is probably doomed, as too few remain to maintain the necessary genetic variation.
futile does mean pointless, but than cant justify the human effort as doomed. The herd is doomed but not human effort

then referring to below lines :

In Indonesia, the rhinos are protected on the Ujung Kulon peninsula, which is unsettled by humans, and still have sufficient genetic diversity to have a chance at survival. Ironically, however, the lack of human disturbance allows mature forests to replace the shrubby vegetation the animals prefer

We can conclude the human effort is ironic, but how can we deduce that its problematic??

Any thoughts?

Same for Question 6. Shouldnt it be E instead?
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How can you infer "B" for Q1?


i think its from the below lines

Very little is known about Javan rhinos because they lead secretive and solitary lives in remote jungles. Until recently, scientists debated whether females even have horns, and most scientific work has had to rely on DNA garnered from dung

It says most scientific work had to rely on DNA from Dung. So probably they have more info on genes than mating patterns. However it requires us to assume something.
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i have some doubts in the above answers, can anybody please solve them ?
in Q2 answers is D, but i think it should be B as futile means pointless and that is exactly given in B.
in Q3 is the answer seriously D. describe the features of the animal?
in Q6 how can the answer be A? i mean there is no data given on which we could conclude that ?

i can still somehow understand why Q3 would be correct as other options are false, but still need help with 2 & 6

thank you :)
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i have some doubts in the above answers, can anybody please solve them ?
in Q2 answers is D, but i think it should be B as futile means pointless and that is exactly given in B.
in Q3 is the answer seriously D. describe the features of the animal?
in Q6 how can the answer be A? i mean there is no data given on which we could conclude that ?

i can still somehow understand why Q3 would be correct as other options are false, but still need help with 2 & 6

thank you :)




for 2 : In Indonesia, the rhinos are protected on the Ujung Kulon peninsula, which is unsettled by humans, and still have sufficient genetic diversity to have a chance at survival. Ironically, however, the lack of human disturbance allows mature forests to replace the shrubby vegetation the animals prefer.

lack of human disturbance is good for rhinos but it is unsettled by human. thats why only D fits :)


for 6: farmers killed rhinos for centuries but hunter killed merely thousand. so farmers should be most responsible . thats why A :)
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Which of the following best expresses the author’s attitude toward the likely fate of the Javan Rhino?

A .optimistic about the Indonesian rhino’s long-term survival

B.resigned to the eventual extinction of the species

C.uncertain about the on-going impact of farmers and hunters

D.pessimistic about the species’ chances for survival

E.ambivalent about the long-term outcome for the Javan rhinoceros

Correct answer : D

from the passage : ... The lack of human disturbance, however, allows mature forests to replace the shrubby vegetation preferred by the animals. Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

From these sentences, I choose A, as the author is optimistic that the conditions are favorable for Rhino population to grow.

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For all those who're confused b\w choices B and D in Q2, here's a simple, accurate and GMAT way of eliminating the wrong one:-

Pointless” and “Doomed” are extreme words (i.e. there's 0% chance of any revival), and thus should be avoided in RC answers if not explicitly mentioned or supported.

In the mentioned passage author has no where mentioned about the absolute surety or guarantee of Indonesian rhino's extinction by human's benevolence. Instead, author has used the word "may" many times.


Thanks to Ron, Manhattan Prep, for the insight.
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I got 3 wrong (Q1, Q2 and Q6) in 8:30 minutes. A disaster!

However, if I commited two silly mistakes in the first two questions ( in the first one I didn't know the meaning of "mating", so I went for A, but that one is crealry the classic "going too far" answer; in the second Q I chose B even knowing that answers with extreme words are almost never correct), I don't know what is wrong with answer E of question six. I see that the test says " For centuries, farmers, who favored the same habitat, viewed them as crop eating pests and shot them on sight", but it also says that "thousands were slaughtered" during the colonial period.

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I rejected the choice E because I find last line optimistic rather than pessimistic.

Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

Writing the below line will make it pessimistic indeed

Human benevolence may prove only little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

The below line is optimistic

Studying for 1 hour daily may bring better results than studying for 7 hours once in a week.

So, according to the last line of the passage, human benevolence is not as detrimental as human maltreatment.

For the same reason I rejected the choice B, last line seems to be optimistic, but choice B seems to be pessimistic.

I finally selected choice C which is too strong to be the right choice. Please help !
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I rejected the choice E because I find last line optimistic rather than pessimistic.

Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

Writing the below line will make it pessimistic indeed

Human benevolence may prove only little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

The below line is optimistic

Studying for 1 hour daily may bring better results than studying for 7 hours once in a week.

So, according to the last line of the passage, human benevolence is not as detrimental as human maltreatment.

For the same reason I rejected the choice B, last line seems to be optimistic, but choice B seems to be pessimistic.

I finally selected choice C which is too strong to be the right choice. Please help !


You are spot on with E. As For C, you may have missed the fact that poachers are still hunting these rhinos (mentioned in first few sentences).
Now the author tells that the rhino population has been declining rapidly to the point from where it can't be reversed. Option B indirectly states that

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I rejected the choice E because I find last line optimistic rather than pessimistic.

Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

Writing the below line will make it pessimistic indeed

Human benevolence may prove only little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

The below line is optimistic

Studying for 1 hour daily may bring better results than studying for 7 hours once in a week.

So, according to the last line of the passage, human benevolence is not as detrimental as human maltreatment.

For the same reason I rejected the choice B, last line seems to be optimistic, but choice B seems to be pessimistic.

I finally selected choice C which is too strong to be the right choice. Please help !


You are spot on with E. As For C, you may have missed the fact that poachers are still hunting these rhinos (mentioned in first few sentences).
Now the author tells that the rhino population has been declining rapidly to the point from where it can't be reversed. Option B indirectly states that

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Can you please point out the line which says that poachers are still hunting? As per my understanding, the passage says that they hunt in the past. No information is given on present hunting. Correct me if I am wrong.


Now the author tells that the rhino population has been declining rapidly to the point from where it can't be reversed.-- The question asked about only the last line, not about the entire passage.
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I rejected the choice E because I find last line optimistic rather than pessimistic.

Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

Writing the below line will make it pessimistic indeed

Human benevolence may prove only little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

The below line is optimistic

Studying for 1 hour daily may bring better results than studying for 7 hours once in a week.

So, according to the last line of the passage, human benevolence is not as detrimental as human maltreatment.

For the same reason I rejected the choice B, last line seems to be optimistic, but choice B seems to be pessimistic.

I finally selected choice C which is too strong to be the right choice. Please help !
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AR15J wrote:
I rejected the choice E because I find last line optimistic rather than pessimistic.

Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

Writing the below line will make it pessimistic indeed

Human benevolence may prove only little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

The below line is optimistic

Studying for 1 hour daily may bring better results than studying for 7 hours once in a week.

So, according to the last line of the passage, human benevolence is not as detrimental as human maltreatment.

For the same reason I rejected the choice B, last line seems to be optimistic, but choice B seems to be pessimistic.

I finally selected choice C which is too strong to be the right choice. Please help !



Hi Expert,

Please help. I got the similar tone in Gmatclub exam as well, and I think I understood that wrong too. Below is the last line from that passage

American popularized versions of Feng Shui, by contrast, show hardly any concern for directional alignment or key objects, preferring instead the excessive use of crystals, mirrors, and table-top water features, which, though perhaps entertaining, display precious little respect for the real influence of Chi.
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Yeah, these are tricky little phrases that don't mean exactly what some people think.

If I say that something is "little better" than something else, I'm saying that it is hardly an improvement at all. In many cases, the point may be that the difference is not worth noting, or that making a change would not be worthwhile. For instance, if I suggest some complex way to save money on groceries through data-intensive comparison shopping, and it turns out that the result is "little better than buying everything at the nearest market," then you'd probably conclude that it would be a waste of time to adopt my method. In the context of our RC passage, you'd expect "human benevolence" to be a whole lot better than maltreatment, so it's rather depressing to hear that it is "little better."

(Note that we can also use this form with some other words, such as "little worse" or "little short of," the latter meaning "almost as much/the same as." "The policy is little short of an outright import ban.")

"Precious little," on the other hand, is simply an idiom that means "very little." You can also say "precious few," but I can't think of any other words that we'd use this way. You can't say "precious many." I think the original idea is that the thing in question is so rare as to be precious, although when we use the expression that doesn't literally have to be true.
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AR15J wrote:
I rejected the choice E because I find last line optimistic rather than pessimistic.

Human benevolence may prove little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

Writing the below line will make it pessimistic indeed

Human benevolence may prove only little better for these rhinos than past human maltreatment.

The below line is optimistic

Studying for 1 hour daily may bring better results than studying for 7 hours once in a week.

So, according to the last line of the passage, human benevolence is not as detrimental as human maltreatment.

For the same reason I rejected the choice B, last line seems to be optimistic, but choice B seems to be pessimistic.

I finally selected choice C which is too strong to be the right choice. Please help !


You are spot on with E. As For C, you may have missed the fact that poachers are still hunting these rhinos (mentioned in first few sentences).
Now the author tells that the rhino population has been declining rapidly to the point from where it can't be reversed. Option B indirectly states that

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Can you please point out the line which says that poachers are still hunting? As per my understanding, the passage says that they hunt in the past. No information is given on present hunting. Correct me if I am wrong.


Now the author tells that the rhino population has been declining rapidly to the point from where it can't be reversed.-- The question asked about only the last line, not about the entire passage.


Little late to reply, ignore if you have already figured it out. To answer your question on where it is mentioned that poachers are still hunting, consider this sentence from the passage -
For centuries, farmers who wished to cultivate the rhino’s habitat viewed the animals as crop-eating pests and shot them on sight; during the colonial period, hunters slaughtered thousands for their horns, as poachers still do today.

Lastly the question is, what is meant by the last sentence? It basically reinforces the fact that we can do almost nothing to help which is a paraphrase of option B. In this case it does not matter where the statement from option B is located in the passage.
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