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1st expression : \(105^{19}\) \(= (100 *1.05)^{19}\) \(= 100^{19}*1.05^{19}\) --- [ as \((a*b)^n = (a^n)*(b^n)\) ]

2nd expression : \(100^{20}\) \(= 100^{19} * 100^1\) \(= 100^{19}*100\) --- [ as \(a^n = (a^1)*(a^{n-1})\) ]

now as \(100^{19}\) is common,

Compare \(1.05^{19}\) with \(100\).

as 1.05 is slightly greater than 1

surely, \(1.05^{19} < 100\)


thus

\(105^{19} < 100^{20}\)

Let me know if this worked for you. :!:

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I have come across a question that I am not able to either solve it or find a suitable explanation; the question is: -

Q). Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20?

Please help!
Thanks in advance.


Could you change the main subject as 'Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20?' :) So, It may be helpful for others too, in case they need to dive into the problem.
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Dear fellowmembers,

I have come across a question that I am not able to either solve it or find a suitable explanation; the question is: -

Q). Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20?

Please help!
Thanks in advance.


goutamread has given you a great approach. I would use a similar one though I just try to simplify first. It helps you think faster in some cases.

\(105^{19}\) and \(100^{20}\) have \(5^{19}\) common. Cancel out the common \(5^{19}\) and you are left with

\(105^{19} = 5^{19}*21^{19}\)
and \(100^{20} = 5^{19}*20^{19}*100\)

Now compare \(21^{19}\) and \(20^{19}*100\)

It is easy to make some sense out of \(20^{19}*100\). It is 100 times \(20^{19}\) i.e. you can get this expression if you add 100 terms of \(20^{19}\) together

\(20^{19}*100 = 20^{19} + 20^{19} + 20^{19}\) ... (100 terms) ..............(I)

\(21^{19} = (20 + 1)^{19}\)

Let's try to expand \((20 + 1)^{19}\) using binomial. We will get 19+1 = 20 terms when we expand.

\((20 + 1)^{19} = 20^{19} + 19*20^{18} + 19* 18/2 * 20^{17} + ... + 1^{19}\) ............... (II)

Notice that this expression has 20 terms and none of the terms will be greater than \(20^{19}\).

Compare (I) with (II).
(I) has 100 terms, all of them \(20^{19}\)
(II) has 20 terms, all of them equal to or less than \(20^{19}\).

Hence, (I) will be greater than (II). Or we can say that \(100^{20}\) will be greater than \(105^{19}\).

Originally posted by KarishmaB on 11 Jan 2013, 22:18.
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Let me try :


1st expression : \(105^{19}\) \(= (100 *1.05)^{19}\) \(= 100^{19}*1.05^{19}\) --- [ as \((a*b)^n = (a^n)*(b^n)\) ]

2nd expression : \(100^{20}\) \(= 100^{19} * 100^1\) \(= 100^{19}*100\) --- [ as \(a^n = (a^1)*(a^{n-1})\) ]

now as \(100^{19}\) is common,

Compare \(1.05^{19}\) with \(100\).

as 1.05 is slightly greater than 1

surely, \(1.05^{19} < 100\)


thus

\(105^{19} < 100^{20}\)

Let me know if this worked for you. :!:


Thanks a lot goutamread! This one is really better. But, I want to know that what made you to split 105 into 100*1.05. This is some thing that is really very important to know because I believe that these are the tactics that one has to think of while attacking a question.
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ObsessedWithGMAT wrote:
Dear fellowmembers,

I have come across a question that I am not able to either solve it or find a suitable explanation; the question is: -

Q). Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20?

Please help!
Thanks in advance.


Could you change the main subject as 'Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20?' :) So, It may be helpful for others too, in case they need to dive into the problem.


Done! :-)
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Re: Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20? [#permalink]
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ObsessedWithGMAT wrote:
Dear fellowmembers,

I have come across a question that I am not able to either solve it or find a suitable explanation; the question is: -

Q). Which is greater 105^19 or 100^20?

Please help!
Thanks in advance.


goutamread has given you a great approach. I would use a similar one though I just try to simplify first. It helps you think faster in some cases.

\(105^{19}\) and \(100^{20}\) have \(5^{19}\) common. Cancel out the common \(5^{19}\) and you are left with

\(105^{19} = 5^{19}*21^{19}\)
and \(100^{20} = 5^{19}*20^{19}*100\)

Now compare \(21^{19}\) and \(20^{19}*100\)

It is easy to make some sense out of \(20^{19}*100\). It is 100 times \(20^{19}\) i.e. you can get this expression if you add 100 terms of \(20^{19}\) together

\(20^{19}*100 = 20^{19} + 20^{19} + 20^{19}\) ... (100 terms) ..............(I)

To compare, we can use binomial for \(21^{19}\). If you do not know how to use binomial, check out this link:
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2011/05 ... ek-in-you/

\(21^{19} = (20 + 1)^{19}\)

Let's try to expand \((20 + 1)^{19}\) using binomial. We will get 19+1 = 20 terms when we expand.

\((20 + 1)^{19} = 20^{19} + 19*20^{18} + 19* 18/2 * 20^{17} + ... + 1^{19}\) ............... (II)

Notice that this expression has 20 terms and none of the terms will be greater than \(20^{19}\).

Compare (I) with (II).
(I) has 100 terms, all of them \(20^{19}\)
(II) has 20 terms, all of them equal to or less than \(20^{19}\).

Hence, (I) will be greater than (II). Or we can say that \(100^{20}\) will be greater than \(105^{19}\).


Dear Karishma,

Thanks a lot for taking out time to reply to my question! I am still struggling with the fact that this question is from Inequalities and neither you nor goutamread applied any concept of Inequalities or is it that I am not able to identify?
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Here is the smart solution. Lets assume both are equal. If after some manipulation we can show LHS > RHS or LHS < RHS we would have got the answer.

105^19 = 100^20

Take 100^19 to the LHS (Divide both sides by 100^19)

We have 1.05^19 = 100

From Binomial theorem we know than (1+x)^n = 1 + nx when x<<1

Hence 1.05^19 = (1 + 0.05*19) = 1.95 < 100

Hence 105^19 < 100^20
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Thanks a lot goutamread! This one is really better. But, I want to know that what made you to split 105 into 100*1.05. This is some thing that is really very important to know because I believe that these are the tactics that one has to think of while attacking a question.



I'm not an expert, rather I'm just another aspirant on the forum. I could try to explain:

See, whenever we deal with a big number/expression, we try to simplify the expression to make it realistic :P

There could be numerous ways to solve a question, what matters is which one you feel at your ease... now as you mentioned inequality,

assume \(105^{19} > 100^{20}\) lets try to prove whther our assumption is correct or not. If yes, then \(105^{19} > 100^{20}\) and if not then, \(105^{19} < 100^{20}\)

\(105^{19} > 100^{20}\)
Now, don't these expressions scare us. yes they are scary.. so lets try and simplify.
lets divide both side by \(100^{20}\), (as \(100^{20}\) is +ve --> inequality sign wont change)
\(\frac{105^{19}}{100^{20}} > 1\)
\(\frac{105^{19}}{{100^{19}*100}} > 1\)
\((\frac{105}{100})^{19}*\frac{1}{100} > 1\)
\(\frac{(1.05) ^{19}}{100} > 1\) OR \((\frac{26}{25}) ^{19}* \frac{1}{100} > 1\) ==> \(26 ^{19} > 100 * 25^{19}\)

From here its already discussed earlier how to solve the problem. Take away could be : There are various ways to solve a problem, what matters is what suits you, but you should be aware of more than one trick.

Originally posted by goutamread on 18 Jan 2013, 08:50.
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