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A.. B and C are not ||

it should be,
National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to
-revamp computer security procedures,
-institute new emergency response teams,
-create a special nongovernment organization

D and E remains.

create to take is much better than create for taking ( created for taking sounds better)

So I will pick E.
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
B creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
C creating a special nongovernment organization for taking
D and create a special nongovernment for taking
E and create a special nongovernment to take


the list to revamp.., institute..., and create should be parallel.
A - creating is not parallel.
B- creating is not parallel
C - creating is not parallel
D - create is parallel
E - Create is parallel
Between D and E create for taking and create to take is a tie.
Create to take is the correct usage.
So answer is E.
Also in B 'that takes' is wrong usage, because the action is in future. that takes would be correct for an action in present
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Please note that the un-underlined part lists the infinitives ‘to revamp /, institute’ without a conjunction in between, implying that another infinitive factor is ensuing to maintain parallelism. In the context, ‘to create’ is indeed the third factor, which the NSA has urged. Therefore, participial use of ‘creating’ is wrong in the given case. The real choice should fall between D and E.

Since a purpose ‘to take charge’ is indicated in the text, the best diction to denote such a purpose is the infinitive. Therefore, D drops out and E is the eventual option.
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why do they want to a create a sp organisation ? they must have some solid rationale / some intent..........

INTENT : if this is the word then INFINITIVES who are always left behind, who always loom in the dark in gmatland...... ....cannot afford to miss this golden opurtunity and rush in at a mad pace to fill the vaccum.

Thus TO outscores FOR and E wins.
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

B creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

C creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

D and create a special nongovernment for taking

E and create a special nongovernment to take



It`s a parallelism problem. to revamp....to institure.......to create......Thus eliminate A,B,C.Between D and E , E is the correct answer.Because its to take not for take.



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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

B creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

C creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

D and create a special nongovernment for taking

E and create a special nongovernment to take



It`s a parallelism problem. to revamp....to institure.......to create......Thus eliminate A,B,C.Between D and E , E is the correct answer.Because its to take not for take.



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@mun23, I am afraid I will have to correct you here. While you are right in eliminating A,B,C on grounds of lack of parallelism, your reason to eliminate D is wrong.

D is wrong because "for taking" is a gerund and should modify a noun, while in this case modifying a verb "create" so this option is wrong.

I am mistaken. It seems "for taking" cannot be used to define a purpose. When you want to highlight the intention/purpose then we have to use to take. Otherwise there is no error with the usage of "for taking"
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Someone please explain me the difference between to take and for taking.
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

(A) creating a special nongovernment organizationv to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernmentorganization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

The correct choice is E

My doubt is relating to the comma used before 'create'. Shouldn't be the correct answer choice be without the comma. If I remove the comma would the meaning of the sentence changes?Is the comma before create necessary?
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

(A) creating a special nongovernment organizationv to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernmentorganization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

The correct choice is E

My doubt is relating to the comma used before 'create'. Shouldn't be the correct answer choice be without the comma. If I remove the comma would the meaning of the sentence changes?Is the comma before create necessary?



Even after several reminders you have not complied with the forum rules: neither you have edited your question title nor you have stopped creating duplicate posts.I would be forced to issue a warning if this continues.
This topic was already discussed warning-that-computers-in-the-united-states-are-not-secure-22713.html
Moreover this topic was discussed in 2005 when OG13 wasn't published.Are you sure about the source of this question?
Kindly post your questions in the original thread.Thanks
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special non-government organization to take charge of computer security planning.

A creating a special nongovernment organization to take

B creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

C creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

D and create a special nongovernment for taking

E and create a special non-government to take



Hi,
The right answer is E. You need to list down the items and then selects the Parallel constructions. Easy way is go by POE.

to revamp is in parallel with to take. So B,C,D are wrong.
The sentence has "Has urged" so creating is wrong as it represents continues tense. So A goes off.

E is the answer.

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Question here. OG says that "that takes" is illogical. What does it mean by illogical?
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Question here. OG says that "that takes" is illogical. What does it mean by illogical?


In option B the modifier that takes.... refers to nongovernment organization . The meaning conveyed is:

Nongovernment organization takes charge of computer security planning.

The simple present tense is wrong - it implies that the special nongovernment organization already exists, and it generally takes control of computer security planning. However this is not the case - the special nongovernment organization is yet to be created. An action in future cannot be depicted by simple present tense.

The conditional tense would take control should be used to indicate a possibility, not a simple present tense.

In correct option E, the intended meaning is as follows:

National Academy of Sciences urged the nation to perform 3 things:
1. revamp procedures
2. institute response teams
3. create a special organization.

Why NAS has urged the 3rd action -what is the purpose? ... to take charge of the security planning. Whenever an intent or purpose is expressed it is preferred that the infinitive form to+verb be used.
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The word "organization" is not present in the last two options. Is this a mistake or really the case?
If not, can we afford not to have word "organization" in the options and still consider the options correct? Please throw some light?

Please address my query!!
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The word "organization" is not present in the last two options. Is this a mistake or really the case?
If not, can we afford not to have word "organization" in the options and still consider the options correct? Please throw some light?

Please address my query!!


This is a typographical error. In the official guide, the term "organization" is there in options D and E as well.
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take

(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking

(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

The correct choice is written below.
Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, and create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

In the above sentence, to has been used before the verb revamp, institute, create because the tag is and. So, we can rewrite the correct sentence as follows:

Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, to institute new emergency response teams, and to create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

So, here is the question: Why National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation?
The simple answer is: to do blah blah blah. This to do is NOT a verb;to do is infinitive (to+verb). The infinitive (to+verb) can't be verb anymore. So, revamp, institute, and create are NOT verbs in this sentence! The verb is urged.

Here is the correct choice again.
Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, and create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

In the above sentence, to take is an infinitive. So, it can't be verb anymore. Most importantly, we never express our purpose/intention of an action without any verb (like urged in this sentence) in the sentence. In the sentence, something is done to take ''charge of computer security planning''. egmat says: It is clear that taking charge of computer security planning is the purpose for creating this special nongovernment organization. My question is to egmat: this something is done is what, actually? I mean: Which one (from the below) can be replaced with something is done? is it:
1/ to create (infinitive) a special nongovernment organization?
or,
2/ National Academy of Sciences has urged (not infinitive at all-this is the main verb) the nation?

I think, to take charge of computer security planning CAN'T be the purpose of to create a special nongovernment organization. Because, to create is the infinitive itself!
So, if this is the case, my question is to my honorable expert: this something is done is what, actually? is it:
2/ National Academy of Sciences has urged (not infinitive at all-this is the main verb) the nation?

if yes, that means: to take charge of computer security planning is the 4th item of the series like to revamp, to institute, to create. So, this is something like to revamp, to institute, to create, and to take .........! if this the case, why ,and is NOT used before the final item to take charge of computer security planning?
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take

(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking

(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

The correct choice is written below.
Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, and create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

In the above sentence, to has been used before the verb revamp, institute, create because the tag is and. So, we can rewrite the correct sentence as follows:

Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, to institute new emergency response teams, and to create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

So, here is the question: Why National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation?
The simple answer is: to do blah blah blah. This to do is NOT a verb;to do is infinitive (to+verb). The infinitive (to+verb) can't be verb anymore. So, revamp, institute, and create are NOT verbs in this sentence! The verb is urged.

Here is the correct choice again.
Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, and create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

In the above sentence, to take is an infinitive. So, it can't be verb anymore. Most importantly, we never express our purpose/intention of an action without any verb (like urged in this sentence) in the sentence. In the sentence, something is done to take ''charge of computer security planning''. egmat says: It is clear that taking charge of computer security planning is the purpose for creating this special nongovernment organization. My question is to egmat: this something is done is what, actually? I mean: Which one (from the below) can be replaced with something is done? is it:
1/ to create (infinitive) a special nongovernment organization?
or,
2/ National Academy of Sciences has urged (not infinitive at all-this is the main verb) the nation?

I think, to take charge of computer security planning CAN'T be the purpose of to create a special nongovernment organization. Because, to create is the infinitive itself!
So, if this is the case, my question is to my honorable expert: this something is done is what, actually? is it:
2/ National Academy of Sciences has urged (not infinitive at all-this is the main verb) the nation?

if yes, that means: to take charge of computer security planning is the 4th item of the series like to revamp, to institute, to create. So, this is something like to revamp, to institute, to create, and to take .........! if this the case, why ,and is NOT used before the final item to take charge of computer security planning?
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Hi all,
I've made the previous comment on 13th October, 2018 (17 days already passed!!) as "Request Expert Replay", but I did not get any feedback from any honorable experts-probably, honorable experts missed my comment. I've no chance to make "Request Expert Replay" for the second time on the same thread! So, I'm going to make this comment (quoting the previous comment) by tagging some of my honorable experts (RonPurewal, MartyMurray, GMATNinja, mikemcgarry, egmat, AjiteshArun, VeritasKarishma, EMPOWERgmatRichC ) for having a perfect solution.
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Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take

(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking

(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

The correct choice is written below.
Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, and create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

In the above sentence, to has been used before the verb revamp, institute, create because the tag is and. So, we can rewrite the correct sentence as follows:

Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, to institute new emergency response teams, and to create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

So, here is the question: Why National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation?
The simple answer is: to do blah blah blah. This to do is NOT a verb;to do is infinitive (to+verb). The infinitive (to+verb) can't be verb anymore. So, revamp, institute, and create are NOT verbs in this sentence! The verb is urged.

Here is the correct choice again.
Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, and create a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

In the above sentence, to take is an infinitive. So, it can't be verb anymore. Most importantly, we never express our purpose/intention of an action without any verb (like urged in this sentence) in the sentence. In the sentence, something is done to take ''charge of computer security planning''. egmat says: It is clear that taking charge of computer security planning is the purpose for creating this special nongovernment organization. My question is to egmat: this something is done is what, actually? I mean: Which one (from the below) can be replaced with something is done? is it:
1/ to create (infinitive) a special nongovernment organization?
or,
2/ National Academy of Sciences has urged (not infinitive at all-this is the main verb) the nation?

I think, to take charge of computer security planning CAN'T be the purpose of to create a special nongovernment organization. Because, to create is the infinitive itself!
So, if this is the case, my question is to my honorable expert: this something is done is what, actually? is it:
2/ National Academy of Sciences has urged (not infinitive at all-this is the main verb) the nation?

if yes, that means: to take charge of computer security planning is the 4th item of the series like to revamp, to institute, to create. So, this is something like to revamp, to institute, to create, and to take .........! if this the case, why ,and is NOT used before the final item to take charge of computer security planning?
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The reason that "and" is before "create" seems to be that "to take charge" modifies either "to create" or "organization."

The truth is that the wording is not optimal. "create an organization to take charge" does not clearly convey any particular meaning. Is the organization going to take charge or is "to take charge" the purpose of creating an organization.

I think something along the lines of "create an organization that will take charge" would more clearly express the meaning.

Meanwhile, you said the following:

I think, to take charge of computer security planning CAN'T be the purpose of to create a special nongovernment organization. Because, to create is the infinitive itself!

What you said does not really make sense, You could have an infinitive stating the purpose of an infinitive. Consider the following simple example:

I urged John to run quickly to catch the driver before he left.
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