A chess player won 25 percent of the first 20 games

I am really struggling wit these type of word problems.Any stratergy how to improve? I am not able to translate these words into algebric equations

bunnel/zarollu any similar questions to practice in this forum?

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I approached the problem in this way,
Let x be the number of games played after the first 20 games. Now we already know, that out of the 20 games, 5 were won by the player and 15 lost.

Also, that since he doesnt loose any more games, the total number of losses remain to be 15.
But the games won can be assumed as 5 + x
Hence the desired ratio is 5+x:15

To calculate value of x we use the given statements:
Stamement 1. if the player had won 25% of the total games i.e. games lost = 75/100(20 + x) = 15 + 3/4x.
=> 15+3/4x -15 = 30
=> 3/4x = 30
=> x = 4/3 * 30 = 40.
Hence the ratio can be found as 45:15.

For Statement 2. If the player had won 75 of total games i.e. 5+x/20+x = 75/100 => x = 40
Hence the ratio is again found to be 45:15

The answer for me would be [D]**edited..typo! , both the statments are individually sufficient.

Regards,
Arpan

Bunnel,
I have a query.
If the player had won 25 percent of the total games he played" = lost 75%----- why do we want to convert into the opposite of how much % lost..can we get the answer without converting this?

Since the RHS in the statement 1 is 30 i.e. "the player would have lost 30 more games than he actually did", which is the number of games lost, its important to frame the equation in terms of number of games lost by the player. Statement 1 in general does not speak about the exact number of wins, but then again we can derive the answer from the wins as well.

Let x be the number of games played after the first 20 games. Now we already know, that out of the 20 games, 5 were won by the player and 15 lost.
The total number of games won can be assumed as 5 + x and the losses as of now are 15. Total games played is 20 + x.
If the player had won 25% of the total games i.e. 25/100 * (20 + x) games won.
Now as mentioned, the player would loose 30 more games. Hence the number of wins would reduce by 30 i.e. 5 + x -30 is the total number of wins.
Equating the same,
25/100*(20 + x) = 5 + x - 30
=>5 + x/4 = x - 25
=> x = 40

The above values are concurrent with our other findings. Although this procedure does provide the answer, but would not be the best of the methods to use given the question. Please correct me if I am wrong Bunnel! Im sorry I went ahead over this even though the query was directed at you

Regards,
Arpan

He won 25% of 20 games and 100% of the rest.

(1) If the player had won 25 percent of the total games he played, he would have lost 30 more games than he actually did.

If he had won 25% of the total games, he would have won 25% of the remaining games too and lost 75% of the remaining games. This 75% of remaining games = 30 so number of remaining games = 30*4/3 = 40
He won 25% of 20 i.e. 5 and all 40 of the others so he won 45 games and lost 15 games. The required ratio = 3:1
Sufficient.

(2) The player won 75 percent of the games he played.

Use weighted averages to solve this:
Aavg = 75%
w1/w2 = (A2 - Aavg)/(Aavg - A1) = (100 - 75)/(75 - 25) = 1/2
So since 20 games were played first, the rest of the games were twice in number i.e. 40. He won 25% of 20 i.e. 5 and all 40 of the others so he won 45 games and lost 15 games. The required ratio = 3:1
Sufficient.

Answer (D)

why we are not considering that the match could be drawn ?

When (2) says The player won 75 percent of the games he played, and the question (at least the one in the GMAT Club test) says that none of the games can be a draw, so does it not mean that the player lost 25 percent of his games, in which case, the ratio would be simply 3:1? Bunuel can you please help clarify?

VeritasKarishma I do not get where the highlight part comes from. Could you explain why he should have won 100% of the remaining games?

It's given in the question:
A chess player won 25 percent of the first 20 games he played and all of his remaining games.

A chess player won 25 percent of the first 20 games he played and all of his remaining games. What is the ratio of the number of games he won to the number of the games he lost?

(1) If the player had won 25 percent of the total games he played, he would have lost 30 more games than he actually did.

(2) The player won 75 percent of the games he played.

I think the question is missing the word "won" between the words "and" and "all".

'won' is common to both '25 percent of the first 20 games he played' and 'all of his remaining games'.

RF won the Australian Open and the French Open.

'won' is common to both AO and FO.

Got it, now. Top notch analogy as always.