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Holmes has written many best selling books in the past on neurological cases. All these books are best sellers. He has written latest book in the same series mentions a number of cases of people who lose the ability to speak normally and can only communicate through song.

Clancy, neurologist criticizes Holmes' latest popular book that neurological cases are unjustified. She says Holmes' approach is 'Voyeuristic" and "patronizing".

We need to find the option that weakens Clancy's arguments. Now, Let's check out the options.

A)Attacks Clancy's credentials without any basis. Option is itself without any basis.
B)Assumes that if a book is popular, the author's approach must be justifiable. Yes. If this is true, Statements of Clancy are strongly weakened. It's the answer.
C)Takes for granted the unlikely proposition that there are some people who can only communicate through song. we don't know whether this is true or false.
D)Attacks the character of the author rather than challenging the validity of the methods used. This flaw of reasoning is called as 'Ad Hominem'. 'neurological cases is unjustified' can not be can not be argued by targeting the Holmes.
E)Assumes that if Holmes' approach was valid for one of his books, it must have been valid for all of his books. It seems to be true, but it is not mentioned anywhere that, approach is valid for any of the book.
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Analysis:

Holmes has written many best selling books in the past on neurological cases. All these books are best sellers. He has written latest book in the same series mentions a number of cases of people who lose the ability to speak normally and can only communicate through song.

Clancy, neurologist criticizes Holmes' latest popular book that neurological cases are unjustified. She says Holmes' approach is 'Voyeuristic" and "patronizing".

We need to find the option that weakens Clancy's arguments. Now, Let's check out the options.

A)Attacks Clancy's credentials without any basis. Option is itself without any basis.
B)Assumes that if a book is popular, the author's approach must be justifiable. Yes. If this is true, Statements of Clancy are strongly weakened. It's the answer.
C)Takes for granted the unlikely proposition that there are some people who can only communicate through song. we don't know whether this is true or false.
D)Attacks the character of the author rather than challenging the validity of the methods used. This flaw of reasoning is called as 'Ad Hominem'. 'neurological cases is unjustified' can not be can not be argued by targeting the Holmes.
E)Assumes that if Holmes' approach was valid for one of his books, it must have been valid for all of his books. It seems to be true, but it is not mentioned anywhere that, approach is valid for any of the book.


The answer is B undoubtedly , but you have identified the conclusion incorrectly. The argument doesn't say "Clancy criticizes the book saying neurological cases are unjustified" . But is saying , "Clancy's criticizing Holmes is unjustified".
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umeshpatil wrote:
Analysis:

Holmes has written many best selling books in the past on neurological cases. All these books are best sellers. He has written latest book in the same series mentions a number of cases of people who lose the ability to speak normally and can only communicate through song.

Clancy, neurologist criticizes Holmes' latest popular book that neurological cases are unjustified. She says Holmes' approach is 'Voyeuristic" and "patronizing".

We need to find the option that weakens Clancy's arguments. Now, Let's check out the options.

A)Attacks Clancy's credentials without any basis. Option is itself without any basis.
B)Assumes that if a book is popular, the author's approach must be justifiable. Yes. If this is true, Statements of Clancy are strongly weakened. It's the answer.
C)Takes for granted the unlikely proposition that there are some people who can only communicate through song. we don't know whether this is true or false.
D)Attacks the character of the author rather than challenging the validity of the methods used. This flaw of reasoning is called as 'Ad Hominem'. 'neurological cases is unjustified' can not be can not be argued by targeting the Holmes.
E)Assumes that if Holmes' approach was valid for one of his books, it must have been valid for all of his books. It seems to be true, but it is not mentioned anywhere that, approach is valid for any of the book.


Yeah Umesh seems like you have hit at the wrong spot by identifying the wrong conclusion ...Here the author is concluding that Clancy critiquing the Holme's book is unjustified ...So we need to weaken this conclusion of the author by finding the option which directly or indirectly says that this criticism by Clancy is not unjustified.....
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Although Clancy is a well-respected neurologist, his recent critique in the American Neurology Review of Holmes's new popular book of strange but true neurological cases is unjustified. Holmes describes a number of cases of people who lose the ability to speak normally and can only communicate through song. Clancy critiques Holmes' approach as "voyeuristic" and "patronizing," but it is the same approach Holmes applied in all his previous best-selling books, and this latest book is on track to become the top seller of them all.
The argument's reasoning is most open to criticism on the grounds that it:
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A
Attacks Clancy's credentials without any basis.
B
Assumes that if a book is popular, the author's approach must be justifiable.
C
Takes for granted the unlikely proposition that there are some people who can only communicate through song..
D
Attacks the character of the author rather than challenging the validity of the methods used.
E
Assumes that if Holmes' approach was valid for one of his books, it must have been valid for all of his books.


E is a trap, avoid it

Its not ALL of his books, its only the best sellers we are talking about

B is the best choice here. It assumes that because other best sellers touched upon the same topic then it must be the case that the approach is justifiable

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Re: Although Clancy is a well-respected neurologist, his recent [#permalink]
Although Clancy is a well-respected neurologist, his recent critique in the American Neurology Review of Holmes's new popular book of strange but true neurological cases is unjustified. Holmes describes a number of cases of people who lose the ability to speak normally and can only communicate through song. Clancy critiques Holmes' approach as "voyeuristic" and "patronizing," but it is the same approach Holmes applied in all his previous best-selling books, and this latest book is on track to become the top seller of them all.
The argument's reasoning is most open to criticism on the grounds that it:
Choices
A
Attacks Clancy's credentials without any basis...did not attack clancy's credentials
B
Assumes that if a book is popular, the author's approach must be justifiable....CORRECT.....CONNECTS CONCLUSION TO PREMISE...
C
Takes for granted the unlikely proposition that there are some people who can only communicate through song......irrelevant....
D

Attacks the character of the author rather than challenging the validity of the methods used....... CHARACTER HAS NOT BEEN CHALLENGED...
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Assumes that if Holmes' approach was valid for one of his books, it must have been valid for all of his books. ..... INCORRECT....WOULD BE OK IF IT WERE FOR HIS BEST SELLING BOOKS..
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Re: Although Clancy is a well-respected neurologist, his recent [#permalink]
Going with B.
In the last few lines,the argument says Holmes' approach is valid BECAUSE it has made the books bestsellers/popular.Thats not always/necessarily true.

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B is the best choice but it is still a terrible choice. The argument doesnt assume anything about whether the author's approach is justifiable or not. He thinks Clancy's criticism is unjustified...
Holmes maybe wrote all his books using methods that were highly unethical and unjustifiable, the arguments's logic would still hold. The point is that you can't criticize a method when that method has been popular; this logic has no bearing on whether those methods themselves can be justified though.

Let's say there's an animal pest control service that keeps rodent and rabbit populations in check but they use all kinds of methods that cause the animals unnecessary pain when cheaper and more humane methods exist. Someone criticizes this company by saying how twisted it is that the employees take pleasure in killing animals; me responding by pointing out how successful they have been at reducing animal populations doesn't mean their methods are justified

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what is the source of this question? Pls help. I cannot find the source on the Internet.
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Re: Although Clancy is a well-respected neurologist, his recent [#permalink]
grbjha wrote:
Although Clancy is a well-respected neurologist, his recent critique in the American Neurology Review of Holmes's new popular book of strange but true neurological cases is unjustified. Holmes describes a number of cases of people who lose the ability to speak normally and can only communicate through song. Clancy critiques Holmes' approach as "voyeuristic" and "patronizing," but it is the same approach Holmes applied in all his previous best-selling books, and this latest book is on track to become the top seller of them all.
The argument's reasoning is most open to criticism on the grounds that it:
Choices
A
Attacks Clancy's credentials without any basis.
B
Assumes that if a book is popular, the author's approach must be justifiable.
C
Takes for granted the unlikely proposition that there are some people who can only communicate through song..
D
Attacks the character of the author rather than challenging the validity of the methods used.
E
Assumes that if Holmes' approach was valid for one of his books, it must have been valid for all of his books.


The OA is definitely between A and E.
option E talks about the presence of a logic successfully appreciated in one book, makes the logic ok if used in other books. The argument rests on the consistency of logic in all previous best selling books and not just one book
B is the right answer.
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