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Given that , m=(2^a)(3^b) ; n=2^c & p=2m/n

Lets find m/n=(2^a)(3^b)/2^c=(2^(a-c))(3^b)
so p=2m/n=2*(2^(a-c))(3^b)................A

1)a<b;
looking at equation A one can say that this statement does not solve the riddle,since there in no nexus between a & b found. INSUFFICIENT

2)a<c;
As a & c are directly linked in the equation A,we can say from this statement that if a<c then a-c will be a negative term & the whole ratio is multiplied by 2
so p=2*(2^(a-c))(3^b) =even. SUFFICIENT

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is p=2m/n odd?
=(2*2^a*3^b)/2^c
=2^(a+1-c)*3^b
so is 2^(a+1-c)*3^b odd?

statement 1 : a<b
take a=1 and b=2
=2^(1+1-c)*3^2
=2^(2-c)*9

no information on c.
If c=2, then 2^(2-2)*9
=2^0*9
=1*9
=9
odd

If c=1, then 2^(2-1)*9
=2^1*9
=2*9=18
even

statement 2 : a<c
take a=1 and c=2
=2^(1+1-2)*3^b
=2^0*odd (since b is positive integer, 3^b will always be odd integer)
=1*odd
=odd

take a=1 and c=3
=2^(1+1-3)*3^b
=2^-1*3^b
=1/2*3^b
not an integer

1+2 combined is also insufficient.
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Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?


(1) \(a \lt b\)

(2) \(a \lt c\)

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Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?

We should first combine the expressions for \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) to get the following:
\(p = \frac{2m}{n} = \frac{2(2^a3^b)}{2^c} = 2^{a + 1 - c}3^b\)

The question can be rephrased as "Does \(p\) have no 2's in its prime factorization?" Since \(p\) is an integer, we know that the power of 2 in the expression for \(p\) above cannot be less than zero (otherwise, \(p\) would be a fraction). So we can focus on the exponent of 2 in the expression for \(p\): "Is \(a + 1 - c = 0\)?" In other words, "Is \(a + 1 = c\)?"

Statement (1): INSUFFICIENT. The given inequality does not contain any information about \(c\).

Statement (2): SUFFICIENT. We are told that \(a\) is less than \(c\). We also know that \(a\) and \(c\) are both integers (given) and that \(a + 1 - c\) cannot be less than zero.

In other words, \(a + 1\) cannot be less than \(c\), so \(a + 1\) is greater than or equal to \(c\). The only way for \(a\) to be less than \(c\) AND for \(a + 1\) to be greater than or equal to \(c\), given that both variables are integers, is for \(a + 1\) to equal \(c\). No other possibility works. Therefore, we have answered our rephrased question "Yes."

Answer: B.
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Re: Positive integers a, b, c, m, n, and p are defined as follows: m = 2^a [#permalink]
Nice Question here P=2^a-b+1 *3^b
so in order for it to be even => a-c+1≥1 => a-c≥0

now statement 1 is insufficient as there is no clue of c
statement 2 says that a-c<0
hence the answer to the question is NO P CAN NEVER BE EVEN

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Re: Positive integers a, b, c, m, n, and p are defined as follows: m = 2^a [#permalink]
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B -
p = 2 ^(a - c + 1) * 3 ^(b)

for p to be not odd .
we need a - c + 1 < 1 (power of 2 to be negative)
or b < 1
in A - we can't get anything b has nothing to do. more over even
through B - Yes a < c => a - c < 0 => a - c +1 < 1 ; bingo, what we needed.
Through this p is some factor and can never be some integer or odd number.

SO B.

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Re: Positive integers a, b, c, m, n, and p are defined as follows: m = 2^a [#permalink]
Let's analyse the question statement.

p will be odd only in the following cases:
a) n=2 and m is odd
b) n=\(2^x\) and m=odd integer*\(2^(x-1)\). If say \(n=2^4\) and m=odd integer*\(2^2\), then in case of p, we would have a 2 remaining in denominator which cannot be the case since p is an integer.

Now, let's analyse statements.

1) \(a \lt b\). Since we don't know what is the value of c, it is possible that p is even or odd. Let's take an example.

\(m = 2^23^3\). If c=1, then p=\(\frac{(2*2^23^3)}{2^1}\). Then, p is even

\(m = 2^23^3\). If c=3, then p=\(\frac{(2*2^23^3)}{2^3}\). Then, p is odd

Hence, statement 1 is insufficient

2) \(a \lt c\). Here we certainly know that a<c and the difference will only be by 1 (as discussed in the integer case of p in case b)

Thus, this statement will always give us p as odd. Hence, this statement is sufficient

Thus, answer is B
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Re: Positive integers a, b, c, m, n, and p are defined as follows: m = 2^a [#permalink]
First, we simplify the question stem.
m=(2^a)(3^b)
n=(2^c)

p=2m/n=(2^a)(3^b) divided by (2^c)
=(2^a-c)*(3^b)

S2 answers this directly, p will be a fraction of some sort. a<c implies that 2 is raised to a negative power i.e. a fraction.
S1 tells us nothing much and hence is insufficient.

The answer would be B.
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Re: Positive integers a, b, c, m, n, and p are defined as follows: m = 2^a [#permalink]
can someone explain the basic concept here. what are the rules for this to convert this to that?

2(2a3b)2c --> 2a+1−c3b



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Bunuel wrote:

Tough and Tricky questions: Exponents.



Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?


(1) \(a \lt b\)

(2) \(a \lt c\)

Kudos for a correct solution.


Official Solution:

Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?

We should first combine the expressions for \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) to get the following:
\(p = \frac{2m}{n} = \frac{2(2^a3^b)}{2^c} = 2^{a + 1 - c}3^b\)

The question can be rephrased as "Does \(p\) have no 2's in its prime factorization?" Since \(p\) is an integer, we know that the power of 2 in the expression for \(p\) above cannot be less than zero (otherwise, \(p\) would be a fraction). So we can focus on the exponent of 2 in the expression for \(p\): "Is \(a + 1 - c = 0\)?" In other words, "Is \(a + 1 = c\)?"

Statement (1): INSUFFICIENT. The given inequality does not contain any information about \(c\).

Statement (2): SUFFICIENT. We are told that \(a\) is less than \(c\). We also know that \(a\) and \(c\) are both integers (given) and that \(a + 1 - c\) cannot be less than zero.

In other words, \(a + 1\) cannot be less than \(c\), so \(a + 1\) is greater than or equal to \(c\). The only way for \(a\) to be less than \(c\) AND for \(a + 1\) to be greater than or equal to \(c\), given that both variables are integers, is for \(a + 1\) to equal \(c\). No other possibility works. Therefore, we have answered our rephrased question "Yes."

Answer: B.
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can someone explain the basic concept here. what are the rules for this to convert this to that?

2(2a3b)2c --> 2a+1−c3b



Bunuel wrote:
Bunuel wrote:

Tough and Tricky questions: Exponents.



Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?


(1) \(a \lt b\)

(2) \(a \lt c\)

Kudos for a correct solution.


Official Solution:

Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?

We should first combine the expressions for \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) to get the following:
\(p = \frac{2m}{n} = \frac{2(2^a3^b)}{2^c} = 2^{a + 1 - c}3^b\)

The question can be rephrased as "Does \(p\) have no 2's in its prime factorization?" Since \(p\) is an integer, we know that the power of 2 in the expression for \(p\) above cannot be less than zero (otherwise, \(p\) would be a fraction). So we can focus on the exponent of 2 in the expression for \(p\): "Is \(a + 1 - c = 0\)?" In other words, "Is \(a + 1 = c\)?"

Statement (1): INSUFFICIENT. The given inequality does not contain any information about \(c\).

Statement (2): SUFFICIENT. We are told that \(a\) is less than \(c\). We also know that \(a\) and \(c\) are both integers (given) and that \(a + 1 - c\) cannot be less than zero.

In other words, \(a + 1\) cannot be less than \(c\), so \(a + 1\) is greater than or equal to \(c\). The only way for \(a\) to be less than \(c\) AND for \(a + 1\) to be greater than or equal to \(c\), given that both variables are integers, is for \(a + 1\) to equal \(c\). No other possibility works. Therefore, we have answered our rephrased question "Yes."

Answer: B.


    Operations involving the same bases:

    Keep the base, add or subtract the exponent (add for multiplication, subtract for division)

    \(a^n*a^m=a^{n+m}\)

    \(\frac{a^n}{a^m}=a^{n-m}\)

Hence, \(\frac{2(2^a*3^b)}{2^c} = \frac{2^{a+1}*3^b}{2^c}=2^{a + 1 - c}3^b\).

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Positive integers \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), \(m\), \(n\), and \(p\) are defined as follows: \(m = 2^a3^b\), \(n = 2^c\), and \(p = \frac{2m}{n}\). Is \(p\) odd?

(1) \(a \lt b\)

(2) \(a \lt c\)


a, b, c, m, n, and p are positive integers.

Since p = (2)(2^a)(3^b)/(2^c) = [2^(a+1)](3^b)/(2^c) = integer, it must be true that:

c ≤ a + 1

We need to answer the question:

Is p odd?

Using that p is odd if and only if the 2s cancel out, we can rephrase the question as:

Is c = a + 1 ?

Statement One Alone:

=> a < b

The relation between a and b doesn’t have any impact on the relation between a and c, which is our focus.

Statement one is not sufficient. Eliminate answer choices A and D.

Statement Two Alone:

=> a < c

If we combine statement two with the initial constraint that c ≤ a + 1, we have:

a < c ≤ a + 1

Since a and c are integers, it must be true that:

c = a + 1 [There are no integers between a and a + 1, which are two consecutive integers.]

Therefore, the answer to the rephrased question is a definite Yes.

Statement two is sufficient.

Answer: B
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