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jubinarora : Why do you think that it is bad? If they have called you for an interview, your chances of receiving an admit are equally likely as the chances of getting an admit for a person who interviewed in Round 1 or 2. It is just that the scholarship fund reduces with time. So, your chances of receiving scholarship might not be that great, if you look *relatively*
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jubinarora : Why do you think that it is bad? If they have called you for an interview, your chances of receiving an admit are equally likely as the chances of getting an admit for a person who interviewed in Round 1 or 2. It is just that the scholarship fund reduces with time. So, your chances of receiving scholarship might not be that great, if you look *relatively*


I asked because international students constituted only 15% of the previous batch, so I am wondering whether their quota is full by this time. Because I may probably be the last international guy they are interviewing.
Also on the info page in the forum it is stated that the batch size this year in 87, is that information correct?
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JamieCecil They evaluate you on a case-by-case basis. I have seen many of my friends securing loan amount as high as 70-75% for the schools in the range 20-30 per U.S. News. So, putting up your case to Prodigy will only help in giving you some idea. If you don't like the deal, you can say "No" to it.

I agree. Further you would have to contribute 20% of the tuition atleast from your/your family gift funds (and not through school scholarship).
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jubinarora : Why do you think that it is bad? If they have called you for an interview, your chances of receiving an admit are equally likely as the chances of getting an admit for a person who interviewed in Round 1 or 2. It is just that the scholarship fund reduces with time. So, your chances of receiving scholarship might not be that great, if you look *relatively*


I asked because international students constituted only 15% of the previous batch, so I am wondering whether their quota is full by this time. Because I may probably be the last international guy they are interviewing.
Also on the info page in the forum it is stated that the batch size this year in 87, is that information correct?


15% is just a number. And this changes every year. It can go up. It can go down as well. But, yes, more or less it'll be around that number only. Secondly, I am not sure if you're the last one to be interviewed. One of my friends, who happens to be an international, is yet to be interviewed. So, you are definitely not alone :-D

87 is not the correct number. Refer Carlson's website for the exact number.
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A bit unsettling to see Carlson drop from 27 to 32 in the new USNWR rankings. Seems like they are losing ground in most of the ranking publications. It's a bit perplexing because GMAT/placement/salary are all quite strong compared to other peer programs. Must not score very well in the peer & recruiter assessment portion of the methodology. How does everyone else feel about this?
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A bit unsettling to see Carlson drop from 27 to 32 in the new USNWR rankings. Seems like they are losing ground in most of the ranking publications. It's a bit perplexing because GMAT/placement/salary are all quite strong compared to other peer programs. Must not score very well in the peer & recruiter assessment portion of the methodology. How does everyone else feel about this?


Quite worried as well.. I was hoping Carlson to go up by atleast 1 or 2 ranks, like Georgetown.

Wondering whether to get in touch with the school and ask them for their perspective
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zsb123 JamieCecil I think a current student or the admissions committee can best help us with this question. AdmitJA what are your thoughts on this. We would love to know.
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I'm attending the Carlson Up Close event in a couple weeks and plan to ask students/staff their thoughts but it would be nice to have some input before then. Obviously rankings should be taken with a grain of salt but its discouraging to see Carlson struggle to solidify itself while schools like Carey/Owen/etc work hard to improve their programs. Can't afford to tread water in this business.

I'm fully aware Carlson isn't a top 10 program, but it would be nice to see some consistency.
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I'm attending the Carlson Up Close event in a couple weeks and plan to ask students/staff their thoughts but it would be nice to have some input before then. Obviously rankings should be taken with a grain of salt but its discouraging to see Carlson struggle to solidify itself while schools like Carey/Owen/etc work hard to improve their programs. Can't afford to tread water in this business.

I'm fully aware Carlson isn't a top 10 program, but it would be nice to see some consistency.

I also just saw the rankings and am equally saddened to see the dip in ranking. It's too early to talk about the reason for the dip or the impact it would have. The companies that hire At Carlson are continuing to hire and in more numbers. This year unlike the past years a student got an internship offer from all the top 3 consulting firms and another got offers from 2 of them. Amazon And Ecolab have given more internship offers than in any other year. Few new companies are hiring From Carlson this year too and I'm sure that'll be the trend next year as well. One of Carlson's biggest drawback as far as rankings are concerned is its mid West salaries which are roughly 10 to 20k less than the salaries on the coast. This certainly reduces Carlson's score in addition to other factors. So rankings is certainly another number to consider a school, but my 2 cents is not to read too much into it. Talk to students and alums with backgrounds similar to yours and post MBA career aspirations similar to yours and see if their journey has been good and compared that with those of peers of other schools you are considering. Hope this helps.
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jubinarora : Why do you think that it is bad? If they have called you for an interview, your chances of receiving an admit are equally likely as the chances of getting an admit for a person who interviewed in Round 1 or 2. It is just that the scholarship fund reduces with time. So, your chances of receiving scholarship might not be that great, if you look *relatively*


I asked because international students constituted only 15% of the previous batch, so I am wondering whether their quota is full by this time. Because I may probably be the last international guy they are interviewing.
Also on the info page in the forum it is stated that the batch size this year in 87, is that information correct?


15% is just a number. And this changes every year. It can go up. It can go down as well. But, yes, more or less it'll be around that number only. Secondly, I am not sure if you're the last one to be interviewed. One of my friends, who happens to be an international, is yet to be interviewed. So, you are definitely not alone :-D

87 is not the correct number. Refer Carlson's website for the exact number.

Well answered keats I wouldn't worry about it either. It's a good sign that the school has invited you to interview. The only downfall as Keats highlighted is that you may have a tough time getting a scholarship. All the best for your interview.
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I'm attending the Carlson Up Close event in a couple weeks and plan to ask students/staff their thoughts but it would be nice to have some input before then. Obviously rankings should be taken with a grain of salt but its discouraging to see Carlson struggle to solidify itself while schools like Carey/Owen/etc work hard to improve their programs. Can't afford to tread water in this business.

I'm fully aware Carlson isn't a top 10 program, but it would be nice to see some consistency.

I also just saw the rankings and am equally saddened to see the dip in ranking. It's too early to talk about the reason for the dip or the impact it would have. The companies that hire At Carlson are continuing to hire and in more numbers. This year unlike the past years a student got an internship offer from all the top 3 consulting firms and another got offers from 2 of them. Amazon And Ecolab have given more internship offers than in any other year. Few new companies are hiring From Carlson this year too and I'm sure that'll be the trend next year as well. One of Carlson's biggest drawback as far as rankings are concerned is its mid West salaries which are roughly 10 to 20k less than the salaries on the coast. This certainly reduces Carlson's score in addition to other factors. So rankings is certainly another number to consider a school, but my 2 cents is not to read too much into it. Talk to students and alums with backgrounds similar to yours and post MBA career aspirations similar to yours and see if their journey has been good and compared that with those of peers of other schools you are considering. Hope this helps.


Thanks for the response JA. I certainly agree that some of the metrics are imperfect. I guess Midwest affordability has its downsides :) On paper Carlson still seems like a great option for me, my enthusiasm has been dampened a bit for now. Still looking forward to my visit in a few weeks.
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I'm attending the Carlson Up Close event in a couple weeks and plan to ask students/staff their thoughts but it would be nice to have some input before then. Obviously rankings should be taken with a grain of salt but its discouraging to see Carlson struggle to solidify itself while schools like Carey/Owen/etc work hard to improve their programs. Can't afford to tread water in this business.

I'm fully aware Carlson isn't a top 10 program, but it would be nice to see some consistency.

I also just saw the rankings and am equally saddened to see the dip in ranking. It's too early to talk about the reason for the dip or the impact it would have. The companies that hire At Carlson are continuing to hire and in more numbers. This year unlike the past years a student got an internship offer from all the top 3 consulting firms and another got offers from 2 of them. Amazon And Ecolab have given more internship offers than in any other year. Few new companies are hiring From Carlson this year too and I'm sure that'll be the trend next year as well. One of Carlson's biggest drawback as far as rankings are concerned is its mid West salaries which are roughly 10 to 20k less than the salaries on the coast. This certainly reduces Carlson's score in addition to other factors. So rankings is certainly another number to consider a school, but my 2 cents is not to read too much into it. Talk to students and alums with backgrounds similar to yours and post MBA career aspirations similar to yours and see if their journey has been good and compared that with those of peers of other schools you are considering. Hope this helps.


Thanks for the response JA. I certainly agree that some of the metrics are imperfect. I guess Midwest affordability has its downsides :) On paper Carlson still seems like a great option for me, my enthusiasm has been dampened a bit for now. Still looking forward to my visit in a few weeks.

Welcome to Up Close. When I visited last year I was not sure whether MBA, Carlson and right now made sense. Up Close gave me all the answers. I'll strongly recommend all of you to participate in up close.
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I can chime in as a recent deposit for the Class of 2019. I'd certainly rather Carlson be ranked higher, but especially on a year-to-year basis, I'm willing to take it with a grain of salt. In my experience with college rankings, most institutions have a relative range they operate between and they fluctuate = or - 5 spots or so as the publishers tweak their methodology year to year (intentionally of course, to maintain some sort of movement and interest). I'm more invested in the particular stats - I'd get concerned if enrollment numbers, placement numbers, GMAT scores, etc. fluctuated wildly or suddenly, and that does not seem to be the case. Thus the core quality seems steady or moderately improved and I'll trust the rankings to follow suit over time.

Personally, I should also confess that I am particularly unconcerned, as I'm likely to seek employment in the Twin Cities, and I think small rankings shifts will be particularly unimportant in that regard given how well-established the school is as the premier regional option here. I might be a little more antsy if I was planning to go to the coasts or somewhere else where name recognition alone would have to carry more of the load.

Good luck with your decision! Looks like you have some great options to weigh.

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I'm attending the Carlson Up Close event in a couple weeks and plan to ask students/staff their thoughts but it would be nice to have some input before then. Obviously rankings should be taken with a grain of salt but its discouraging to see Carlson struggle to solidify itself while schools like Carey/Owen/etc work hard to improve their programs. Can't afford to tread water in this business.

I'm fully aware Carlson isn't a top 10 program, but it would be nice to see some consistency.

I also just saw the rankings and am equally saddened to see the dip in ranking. It's too early to talk about the reason for the dip or the impact it would have. The companies that hire At Carlson are continuing to hire and in more numbers. This year unlike the past years a student got an internship offer from all the top 3 consulting firms and another got offers from 2 of them. Amazon And Ecolab have given more internship offers than in any other year. Few new companies are hiring From Carlson this year too and I'm sure that'll be the trend next year as well. One of Carlson's biggest drawback as far as rankings are concerned is its mid West salaries which are roughly 10 to 20k less than the salaries on the coast. This certainly reduces Carlson's score in addition to other factors. So rankings is certainly another number to consider a school, but my 2 cents is not to read too much into it. Talk to students and alums with backgrounds similar to yours and post MBA career aspirations similar to yours and see if their journey has been good and compared that with those of peers of other schools you are considering. Hope this helps.


Thanks for the response JA. I certainly agree that some of the metrics are imperfect. I guess Midwest affordability has its downsides :) On paper Carlson still seems like a great option for me, my enthusiasm has been dampened a bit for now. Still looking forward to my visit in a few weeks.
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Guys, I had my interview on 10th March, by what date should I expect a reply? or should I wait till decision date?
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(From Deadline minus a week) to the Deadline day - You can hear anytime.
Usually accepted candidates hear back in time. I have even sen cases where people heard back 3-4 weeks before the deadline!
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