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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
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Can past continuous tense be present in "IF clause"
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If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have had success in hitting it in such a way that the match with that shot alone would have been won.

(a) If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have had success in hitting it in such a way that the match with that shot alone would have been won.
(b) If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won with that shot alone.
(c) If he were not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have had success in hitting it in such a way that the match with that shot alone would have been won.
(d) Had he not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won with that shot alone.
(e) Had he not tried hitting the ball too hard, he should have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won that shot alone.


None of the answers seem to be correct..
Would surely look forward for the name of the source..
If D is the OA..
it should be - had he not tryingtried
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
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Desperately looking for an Official Explanation , also please mention the source of this Problem ( If U know )

Arrived at the correct answer after massive elimination -


Quote:
(a) If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have had success in hitting it in such a way that the match with that shot alone would have been won.
(b) If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won with that shot alone.
(c) If he were not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have had success in hitting it in such a way that the match with that shot alone would have been won.
(d) Had he not trying to hit the ball too hard, he would have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won with that shot alone.
(e) Had he not tried hitting the ball too hard, he should have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won that shot alone.



The only probelm with D for me is trying..had he not trying... seems like a fragment

Please provide the OE
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
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A-The 'if' clause should take the past tense plural verb 'were' or past perfect verb in order to convey an unreal condition.
'with that shot alone' is incorrectly placed.
B-Error 2 is corrected but error 1 remains.
C-Error 1 is corrected but error 2 remains.
E-It repeats word 'hitting' and uses 'should' in place of 'would'.
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Dear Mod,

How to solve this one . please guide
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Dear Mod,

How to solve this one . please guide


This question too seems to be flawed as already explained above. If you have any specifc query about the question, please post again.
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
I think Option D is wrong.

we need past perfect in here : "Had he not trying to hit the ball too hard" -> Had he tried to hit the ball too hard, he would have succeeded in hitting it in such a way that the match would have been won with that shot alone.
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
Abhishek009 chetan2u sayantanc2k hellosanthosh2k2

I think the problem with the word trying is solved if instead of interpreting it as a verb is looked as a gerund or adjective:
https://www.wordreference.com/es/transla ... ord=trying
Trying (adj.): Difficult, stressful, annoying.

But an expert confirmation would be nice mikemcgarry hazelnut
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
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Abhishek009 chetan2u sayantanc2k hellosanthosh2k2

I think the problem with the word trying is solved if instead of interpreting it as a verb is looked as a gerund or adjective:
https://www.wordreference.com/es/transla ... ord=trying
Trying (adj.): Difficult, stressful, annoying.

But an expert confirmation would be nice mikemcgarry hazelnut


hi..

you have to look at the meaning part ....
use as a ADJ, I had a very trying day at the field
use as a gerund - Trying to hit the ball outside the stadium has been his dream.

But does any of these fit in the meaning of the sentence in question... NO

the sentence is of the type..
Had he not come to my home yesterday, I would have been angry with him.

so the sentence is flawed in its original form

hope it helped
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
the source is not reliable, and the question is invalid. There is no surprise in grammar issues.
Nevertheless, trying (adj) is a new word to learn for me.
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
Hi,

Can someone throw some more light on why C can be eliminated? Assuming "trying" in D is a wrong verb - tense.
I didn't chose option D because of "trying" only. Is option D correct answer with "trying" as a correct verb in correct tense?
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
JackMasterNone wrote:
Hi,

Can someone throw some more light on why C can be eliminated? Assuming "trying" in D is a wrong verb - tense.
I didn't chose option D because of "trying" only. Is option D correct answer with "trying" as a correct verb in correct tense?


I apologize if I am rude, but you should have been familiar with such issues, and grammar points in gmat now. It is because according to your profile, you joined the forum in 2012; you have at least 5 years for practicing. I guess your age is a senior in life now.

C is wrong because there is no parallel in the tense. Also, "were..." distorts the meaning of the sentence. There are also other issues.
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Re: If he was not trying to hit the ball too hard [#permalink]
chesstitans Thank you for a certainly rude & distasteful reply to my query.
First of all I don't understand the logic of your comment on my joining date of the forum & not being able to decode a certain wrong answer choice. This surely is a type of assumption question ;-).
chesstitans has assumed that since I joined the forum in 2012 I am practicing to appear for GMAT since then. Also since I joined in 2012, I am now a senior in age.
Well even if I am 60 years old what is your problem? Even if I don't have a grip of simple rules of grammar what is your worry?
I have the right to ask questions & post on the forums in a decent & acceptable manner & that is what I am doing.
bb would like to understand if this forum is only meant for super intelligent so called young people who intend to appear in GMAT or similar other competitive exams. Since you are a founder, thought of clarifying this from you only. And if that is the case, will certainly quit this forum.
I had always read on different posts how good & helpful this forum has been in their GMAT prep. But this certainly is not helpful.



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