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Quant Errors - new test - 4, old test - 2 - both Q50

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Verbal Errors - new test - easily between 6-8 - damn you RC. old test - 5

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souvik101990 thank you for sharing your experience. It's amazing that you scored a 750 without any practice :o

my question: are the CR and SC sections more difficult now? Request you to shed some light on your experience with CR and SC questions for this test

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RC is the most common verbal question type now and thus the most important part of Verbal :|
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Skywalker18 correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't RC always the most important section of verbal? I had read a review post that said that RCs can make or break your verbal score

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Interesting! Looks like you actually got 10 wrong on Verbal this time, as opposed to only 5 wrong the first time, when you earned a V42.

Scoring a V41 with 10 questions wrong (67% correct) out of the 30 counted questions is actually pretty darn amazing from a "maximizing your score with the most number of questions wrong" perspective.

All things considered, earning a 750 (98%) with 14 total questions wrong out of the 58 counted questions (76% accuracy) on Quant and Verbal is an excellent turnaround--you managed the algorithm quite well by performing your best at the beginning of Verbal and not getting any easy questions wrong.

For comparison, when you earned a 760 (99%), a composite score just 10 points higher, you answered only 7 questions wrong out of the 58 counted questions (88% accuracy).

These respective ESRs serve as just another reminder that the number of questions answered incorrectly is only one consideration toward your overall GMAT score--question difficulty level (in particular, how many hard questions you answer correctly) is another major factor.

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Verbal Errors - new test - easily between 6-8 - damn you RC. old test - 5

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1st quarter = 1 wrong = 7/8 = 88% correct
2nd quarter = 2 wrong = 5/7 = 71% correct
3rd quarter = 3 wrong = 4/7 = 57% correct
4th quarter = 4 wrong = 4/8 = 50% correct

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1st quarter = 1 wrong = 7/8 = 88% correct
2nd quarter = 1 wrong = 6/7 = 86% correct
3rd quarter = 1 wrong = 6/7 = 86% correct
4th quarter = 2 wrong = 6/8 = 75% correct

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Interesting! Looks like you actually got 10 wrong on Verbal this time, as opposed to only 5 the first time, when you earned V42.

Scoring V41 with 10 questions wrong is actually pretty darn amazing from a "maximizing your score with the most number of questions wrong" perspective.


Yeah I think it was that disgusting RC. got the whole bunch wrong most likely.

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Hello souvik101990,

Congrats once again :-D

As we all know that RC is going to constitute major chunk of verbal from now, did you find any change in the difficulty level of RC - was it more convoluted?

Also, could you please point out how many long passages did you get?
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mcelroytutoring - i think i made 4 mistakes in verbal last time - but yeah UGH on this one.
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Thanks souvik101990 for sharing your experience. Congratulations on amazing score that too without prep.

It's evident now that RC is the most important section of verbal.
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mcelroytutoring - i think i made 4 mistakes in verbal last time - but yeah UGH on this one.

Hi souvik101990, Here's how I concluded 5 wrong on the V42:

1st quarter = 1 wrong = 7/8 = 88%
2nd quarter = 1 wrong = 6/7 = 86%
3rd quarter = 1 wrong = 6/7 = 86%
4th quarter = 2 wrong = 6/8 = 75%

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Skywalker18 correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't RC always the most important section of verbal? I had read a review post that said that RCs can make or break your verbal score

Hi ENEM,

The most common question type on Verbal used to be Sentence Correction (not Reading Comprehension), but now the opposite is true:



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Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations on scoring a 750, souvik101990!

Atleast now it is clear that how RC is going to play an important role in the exam.

Just one question, did you find SC and CR questions with the similar difficulty level or have they become tougher than the earlier test?

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mcelroytutoring - i think i made 4 mistakes in verbal last time - but yeah UGH on this one.

Hi souvik101990, Here's how I concluded 5 wrong on the V42:

1st quarter = 1 wrong = 7/8 = 88%
2nd quarter = 1 wrong = 6/7 = 86%
3rd quarter = 1 wrong = 6/7 = 86%
4th quarter = 2 wrong = 6/8 = 75%

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haha you are right. I counted 1,1,1 and 2 wrong. The Q50 is a fluke.
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The Q50 is a fluke.

What do you mean by "a fluke"? I disagree--give yourself some credit! :-) Scoring Q50/51 (currently 86% but formerly 97%) 3 times in a row is very impressive. If you scored a Q50, then you deserved a Q50, no matter how many questions you answered incorrectly.

The only difference between a Q50 with 4 wrong and a Q50 with 2 wrong is most likely that the first Q50 was served tougher questions overall.

Yes, there is such a thing as a "high" Q50 and a "low" Q50, which tends to have an effect on the composite score conversion, and explains how the exact same subscores in Quant and Verbal can yield different composite scores. However, remember that the adcoms at Business Schools don't have access to the level of data that we can see on the ESRs. As far as they know, all Q50s are equal--though one could argue that the composite score conversion does provide a clue in this regard.

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But now SC barely covers a third of the test.

Interesting. Another experience with the new GMAT seems to have encountered the following breakup:

8/9 questions of CR, 13 questions (4 paragraphs) of RC and 14/15 questions of SC.

So it seems that the exact (or even the approximate) break-up is not cast in stone as yet, and test-takers should be ready for this.

The one consistent pattern that emerges however, is that CR has least number of questions.
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souvik101990 thanks for another debrief :-)
Is it safe to assume that we will get at least 1 RC per 10 questions (if there are going to be 4 RC's)?
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