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In passages that are one, long paragraph, it can be helpful to split the passage up. In this explanation, the passage will be split into three sections:

  • Section 1: from the start to “...also for women as historians.”
  • Section 2: from “The disappearance of women as objects…” to “...framework for historical writing.”
  • Section 3: from “Because women were seen as…” to the end of the passage.

In the first section, the author:

  • Introduces a change: the professionalization of the study of history.
  • States that this change had important implications for women.

In the second section, the author:

  • Gives an opinion: that women disappearing as objects of study during this period is ironic.
  • Presents two apparently contradictory pieces of evidence to support this position.

In the third section, the author:

  • Provides two reasons that account for women's diminishing role as historians during this period.

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Explanation for elements of irony question:
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Can any one help me with this :
How can you relate the second sentence to the first one ?
1- The professionalization of the study of history in the second half of the nineteenth century, including history's transformation from a literary genre to a scientific discipline, had important consequences not only for historians' perceptions of women but also for women as historians.
2- The disappearance of women as objects of historical studies during this period has elements of irony to it.

when i was reading , i realized that the first sentence was talking about the affect of The professionalization on historians' perceptions of women and women as historians. then suddenly the passage started talking about the disappearance of women as an object . ….. this really confused me. i couldn't concentrate on the passage after that.

i have this problem also with some other passages. any advice about how can i fix this problem in future readings ?
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The passage is primarily concerned with

(A) describing some effects of the professionalization of the study of history on the writing of women's history
(B) explaining some reasons for the professionalization of the writing of history
(C) discussing the kinds of historical writing traditionally practiced by women
(D) contrasting the approach to the writing of history taken by women with the approach taken by men
(E) criticizing certain changes that occurred in the writing of historyduring the second half of the nineteenth century



Can someone please help on this one.

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Furthermore I think the passage is not about writing of history but the study of history. I admit that there is a thin line of difference but it is this thin line which makes the difference in GMAT
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On question 1, I don't see anything that would amount to criticism. The author doesn't say whether something is wrong or right, and I think an opinion is required for a passage to be considered critical of the subject matter.
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Why is option B wrong in 2nd question? Can someone please explain?
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Why is option B wrong in 2nd question? Can someone please explain?


Hi,

Lines from the pasasge :
On the one hand, in writing about women, earlier historians had relied not on firsthand sources but rather on secondary sources.

In passage these lines tell about earlier historians whereas this line from passage suggests the shift to more rigorous research methods required that secondary sources be disregarded the view of current historian. Irony is about current historians not old , therefore B is wrong.
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Could you please explain how option D is right for the second question?
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Could you please explain how option D is right for the second question?

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2. Which of the following best describes one of the "elements of irony" referred to in the highlighted text?

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A. Although the more scientific-minded historians of the second half of the nineteenth century considered women appropriate subjects for historical writing, earlier historians did not.

The passage describes the "disappearance of women as objects of historical studies during this period". Choice (A) suggests the opposite, so it can be eliminated.

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B. Although archival research uncovered documentary evidence of women's role in history, historians continued to rely on secondary sources for information about women.

The passage specifically states that "the shift to more rigorous research methods required that secondary sources be disregarded." Choice (B) directly contradicts this information and be eliminated.

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C. Although historians were primarily concerned with writing about the public sphere, they generally relegated women to the private sphere.

This seems in line with the information in the passage, but does it describe "elements of irony"? If women belong to the private sphere and historians are primarily focused on the public sphere, we would EXPECT a disappearance of women as objects of historical studies. There is nothing inconsistent or contradictory about that result, but leave choice (C) for now if you aren't sure.

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D. The scientific approach to history revealed more information about women, but that information was ignored.

The new approach revealed more information about women.. great! Oh wait, that new approach also means that we are going to IGNORE much of the additional information. The same approach that helped us GATHER the new information also tells us that we should IGNORE that same information.

We would expect an approach that reveals more information about women to INCREASE historical studies of women. But that same approach caused historians to ignore the very information they discovered. This surprising and seemingly contradictory result (much like a discrepancy) has "elements of irony", unlike the facts stated in choice (C). (D) seems like the best answer so far.

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E. The professionalization of history, while marginalizing much of women's writing about history, enhanced the importance of women as historical subjects.

As stated for choice (A), the passage describes the "disappearance of women as objects of historical studies during this period". This implies that the importance of women as historical subjects was not ENHANCED during this period, so (E) can be eliminated.

Choice (D) is the best answer.
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For the primary purpose question, can you pl explain how th answer is A and not E.
Is it very clear from the passage that the author has not presented his view. Hence criticising is not correct.
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For question#3, I have a doubt as to how option b is incorrect. In the passage just above the place where archival methods are mentioned. It has been mentioned that the secondary sources were disregarded. Also, is D right because the researchers did recieve the evidence but the phenomenon of ignoring the evidence happened at later stage. Hence no one can deny the fact that more evidence was indeed available
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For the primary purpose question, can you pl explain how th answer is A and not E.
Is it very clear from the passage that the author has not presented his view. Hence criticising is not correct.

For question #1, I'm not quite sure that I understand your doubt, but I'll give it a shot!

You've correctly identified that the author definitely isn't writing this passage to "criticize." And that's exactly why we must eliminate (E). It doesn't accurately describe what the passage does as a whole.

You can answer this question solely through process of elimination. But (A) remains the best answer choice because it's a precise match for why and how the author wrote this passage. Throughout the passage, the author focuses on the consequences of professionalization of the study of history -- specifically with regards to historians' perception of women and for women as historians. The author brings up multiple methods and perspectives to describe how this one large change impacted different aspects of women in the academic field of history.

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For question#3, I have a doubt as to how option b is incorrect. In the passage just above the place where archival methods are mentioned. It has been mentioned that the secondary sources were disregarded. Also, is D right because the researchers did recieve the evidence but the phenomenon of ignoring the evidence happened at later stage. Hence no one can deny the fact that more evidence was indeed available

On question #3, we are asked which choice was an effect of the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents.

The correct answer choice will identify some outcome that happened as a result of those two things.

Going back to the passage:

    On the other hand, the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents began to reveal significant new historical evidence concerning women, yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant: historians saw political history as the general framework for historical writing.

This pretty clearly states what we're looking for. The result was that significant new historical evidence concerning women was revealed.

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(B) Historians began to debate whether secondary sources could provide reliable information.

Choice (B) bears absolutely no resemblance to what we've just confirmed in the passage. Even if something like this is mentioned somewhere else in the passage, or somewhere in proximity of the phrase "archival," we were not asked to find things that appear in the passage. We must identify the choice that names a result of the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents.

Furthermore, we don't eliminate answer choices because they don't appear in the passage. We eliminate answer choices because they are not the best choice for the answer that we were specifically asked.

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(D) More evidence concerning women became available to historical researchers.

Bingo! Er, eureka! This is a spot-on match for how the passage itself would answer the question.

I hope this helps!
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Author says that the professionalization has irony of elements ,does that not mean that the author is criticising ?

In thre primary purpose question should not the answer be E? Is author merely describing or giving his own opinion also by saying that professionalization has irony of elements
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Author says that the professionalization has irony of elements ,does that not mean that the author is criticising ?

In thre primary purpose question should not the answer be E? Is author merely describing or giving his own opinion also by saying that professionalization has irony of elements

By stating that the professionalization of history contained some "elements of irony," the author is not necessarily criticizing this development -- he/she is merely pointing out that the changes had some surprising and potentially contradictory effects. In addition, it is important to look at the exact language of the answer choice:
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(E) criticizing certain changes that occurred in the writing of history during the second half of the nineteenth century

The passage is not "primarily concerned" with changes that occurred in the writing of history in this time period. Instead, he/she discusses the "professionalization of the study of history in the second half of the nineteenth century," and then describes how this shift impacted the writing of women's history. The specific changes listed -- the use of primary instead of secondary documents, and the less favorable perception of memoir and biography -- are changes in the study of history, not in the writing of history.

This aligns much better with answer choice (A):
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(A) describing some effects of the professionalization of the study of history on the writing of women's history

(A) is the correct answer to question #1.

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Going back to the passage:

    On the other hand, the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents began to reveal significant new historical evidence concerning women, yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant: historians saw political history as the general framework for historical writing.

This pretty clearly states what we're looking for. The result was that significant new historical evidence concerning women was revealed.


Furthermore, we don't eliminate answer choices because they don't appear in the passage. We eliminate answer choices because they are not the best choice for the answer that we were specifically asked.

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(D) More evidence concerning women became available to historical researchers.

Bingo! Er, eureka! This is a spot-on match for how the passage itself would answer the question.

I hope this helps!


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but why not A for Q3.

    On the other hand, the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents began to reveal significant new historical evidence concerning women, yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant: historians saw political history as the general framework for historical writing.
regarding "yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant", I think it would provide some actually relevant evidence, so it obviously provide new knowledge . that's why I prefer A over D.

experts, please help.
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Going back to the passage:

    On the other hand, the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents began to reveal significant new historical evidence concerning women, yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant: historians saw political history as the general framework for historical writing.

This pretty clearly states what we're looking for. The result was that significant new historical evidence concerning women was revealed.


Furthermore, we don't eliminate answer choices because they don't appear in the passage. We eliminate answer choices because they are not the best choice for the answer that we were specifically asked.

Quote:
(D) More evidence concerning women became available to historical researchers.

Bingo! Er, eureka! This is a spot-on match for how the passage itself would answer the question.

I hope this helps!


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but why not A for Q3.

    On the other hand, the development of archival research and the critical editing of collections of documents began to reveal significant new historical evidence concerning women, yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant: historians saw political history as the general framework for historical writing.
regarding "yet this evidence was perceived as substantially irrelevant", I think it would provide some actually relevant evidence, so it obviously provide new knowledge . that's why I prefer A over D.

experts, please help.

While I agree that the new approach to history provided additional knowledge concerning women, that's not exactly what (A) is saying:
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(A) Historians increasingly acknowledged women's contributions to history.

(A) tells us that historians "increasingly acknowledged women's contributions to history" -- or, that historians increasingly believed that women played an important role in history.

However, the passage indicates something quite different -- historians found all of this new evidence concerning women, but then dismissed it as "substantially irrelevant." So, even though they had more knowledge about women, they did not think that women played an important role in history.

For this reason, (A) is not the correct answer to question #3.

I hope that helps!
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