Salaries at Top 20 Business Schools - Class of 2018

Very likely. I was somewhat under the impression that Anderson was touting tech has a big recruiting segment but I don’t see those salaries really reflected...?

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Narenn Good One

Cc bb

One request - Can you put the same with top 20 Non-US Business Schools

Interesting...

And for what reason do you think that international applicants have this "negative net" in comparison with the Domestic Applicants?

What are some of the biggest differences in the demographics of intnl applicants (not including Intnl students in US either working/-ed or studying/-ied) vs domestic applicants?

1. Type of educational credentials: more often than not, a decently high % of folks from non-US countries tend to be engineering focussed while there is a seeming move to include people with more liberal arts backgrounds.
2. Relevance of intnl WE: you command a higher salary when you can show a great fit with a certain role. This is much easier if you are a domestic candidate. Better fit usually translates into a better negotiating leverage for you as a candidate.
3. Visa limitations: uncertainty around H1b, usually leads to intnl candidates accepting lower-ish packages in lieu of getting the opportunity to work with top companies (FAANG or MBB etc).
4. Personal situations: sometimes intnl students dont have leverage wrt locations of choice (due to personal reasons) and hence, negotiated packages are usually lower.
5. This list does not mention whether these salaries are for off-campus or OCR. This is a crucial distinction as companies participating in OCR are usually mandated wrt base salaries by the respective schools while no such considerations exist for off-campus.

Again, this is by no means an exhaustive list but these have been some of the reasons why intnl students command lower salaries.

Interesting information.

Just a quick question - Does this vary with your Pre-MBA work experience?

Well... the average salary after you graduate from an MBA program is determined by taking the salaries of everyone and dividing them by the number of students reporting.

So someone doing consulting will have a higher salary vs someone who will go into non profit.

As to your past experience impacting your future salary, it does but not directly so to speak. Pay at graduation is much more correlated with the industry you are targeting and the position you are hired into. You won’t get paid more in the same job/position just because you have more experience but you can qualify for a better position with one’s experience and skills. You can also potentially get hired sooner or get better company even if the pay is the same.

Your future employer won’t hire just because you went to Tepper/Ross/Etc. They will look at your experience and what they can use you for. If you have good brands on your resume, job search will be easy. If you have some unknown companies, it will be longer and more painful as the spots will first go to others.

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Hey Guys ,

Would anyone be able to give such comparison for other US Schools. I am looking for a comparison between SMU Cox and Katz School of Management. I have an admit from both places and I want to know more about the placement from these colleges in the consulting domain as that is my target industry post MBA and it is my current domain as well. Any help with respect to this would be really appreciated.

Thanks,
Rohan

Hi. Did they not release their employment reports? That's where schools will publish information like that. You just have to google for it.... or those schools don't release employment reports or is Google down today?

PS. Cox is $102,000 and Katz is $88,000

Hi bb,

I was looking for industry based breakdown which was mentioned in the above post for those schools. I could not find that on google niether is it mentioned on their website. The average one is available ofcourse. Sorry if it wasn’t clear from my above comment.

Thanks,
Rohan

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Well... it may be a red flag if they are not providing the details but the figures/numbers only include people who have gotten jobs, so if you want to do consulting and you don't get hired, your numbers are not reported, and that's really not helpful or reflective of reality. What I can say is that the salary does not depend on which school you went to. E.g. BCG or McKinsey is not going to pay you less just because you went to Cox vs. HBS but the likelihood of getting a good consulting position increases with the school rank and does getting noticed.

Hi bb,
Great insights on B-Schools in the USA.

Can you also publish such insights for top 10 Canadian B-Schools?

Good question about Canadian MBA programs. Are there even 10 in Canada? I looked up Rotman and it says $99,574 for the 2018 Year graduating Class.

My understanding is that is Canadian dollars And one converted to the US dollars, it is about $75,000 a year which includes salary and bonus. The base salary without bonus was 92,000 CAD.

https://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/-/media/ ... t-2019.pdf

This is a meaningful difference with the US counterparts. The biggest surprise is how small the bonus is. It’s less than 10%. Most US employers would offer double that for a bonus in % But that could be the reality of Canadian offer structures. It also probably doesn’t take into consideration differences in cost of living, health insurance and other benefits that are often not measured or reported.

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Seems these numbers could be updated a bit...especially those for Columbia where the median salary is now: $177,970

https://poetsandquants.com/2019/11/14/c ... y=mba-jobs

Any idea where the numbers came from? I looked at the school report and they said the median salary was $150,000 and median bonus was $30,000. Where did 177,970 come from?

https://www8.gsb.columbia.edu/recruiter ... _FINAL.pdf



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I figured it out.... They averaged everything - including the $50k bonus that 15% of graduates received. I am not sure that’s the most accurate way but I guess it works for averages.... However, keep it in mind that these figures include signing bonuses that have to be paid back if Juan quits during the first two years typically and some of the bonuses don’t mature for a number of years. At the same time if one stays, these numbers are accurate as averages.

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From the article, that total reflects median base salaries of $150,000, signing bonuses of $30,000, and other guaranteed compensation of $50,000. The total pay number is adjusted to account for the percentage of students receiving a sign-on bonus and/or other guaranteed compensation.

Ie: 150K+20,370 (30K*67.9%)+7600 (50K*15.2%) = $177,970


And fair, even if we don't include the bonuses - the median of 150K is significantly higher than the 131K above

Salary figures mentioned in the table are from US News rankings. Perhaps it's time to post a new edition of this thread, reflecting latest salary figures published by schools. I will get this done by Thursday evening.