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I have a doubt over option D. Option D talks about the breaking of the ship and effecting the coastal waters. The argument says the sinking of the ship in deep sea waters which may or may not result in breakage of the ship and is sure to pollute the waters. Option D seems to be just a rephrase of the argument given. Please comment.
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Dear VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun,

I have some question on choice A.

(A) The National Environmental Research Council approved the sinking of the oil platform, calling it the “best practicable environmental option.”

When the NERC or any other "expert" calls this approach “BEST practicable environmental option”, should we trust them and treat their statement as irrefutable fact? Or should we distrust them and treat their statement as meaningless?

IMO, it is the fact that sinking oil platform is the BEST PRACTICABLE ENVIRONMENTAL option.
Why opt for the worse option as suggested by the environmental group?
The suggested plan should be WORSE practicable environmental option. (It harms the environment or it is unpractical)

Thus, choice A. could weaken the argument.

Thank you in advance!
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Dear VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun,

I have some question on choice A.

(A) The National Environmental Research Council approved the sinking of the oil platform, calling it the “best practicable environmental option.”

When the NERC or any other "expert" calls this approach “BEST practicable environmental option”, should we trust them and treat their statement as irrefutable fact? Or should we distrust them and treat their statement as meaningless?

IMO, it is the fact that sinking oil platform is the BEST PRACTICABLE ENVIRONMENTAL option.
Why opt for the worse option as suggested by the environmental group?
The suggested plan should be WORSE practicable environmental option. (It harms the environment or it is unpractical)

Thus, choice A. could weaken the argument.

Thank you in advance!
Hi varotkorn,

We would definitely consider the statement as a whole to be true (Which of the following, if true). So, we take as true the statement that the NERC said something. This doesn't, however, mean that we need to trust what they said.

I think option D is better than option A, but I'd replace option A if this question were mine. The first option just brings in too many things that I wouldn't want in a question, especially if NERC is real.
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Dear VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun,

I have some question on choice A.

(A) The National Environmental Research Council approved the sinking of the oil platform, calling it the “best practicable environmental option.”

When the NERC or any other "expert" calls this approach “BEST practicable environmental option”, should we trust them and treat their statement as irrefutable fact? Or should we distrust them and treat their statement as meaningless?

IMO, it is the fact that sinking oil platform is the BEST PRACTICABLE ENVIRONMENTAL option.
Why opt for the worse option as suggested by the environmental group?
The suggested plan should be WORSE practicable environmental option. (It harms the environment or it is unpractical)

Thus, choice A. could weaken the argument.

Thank you in advance!


A layman's opinion should be disregarded, no two ways about it. Whether an expert's opinion has any weight or not depends on the question and other options. Usually, an opinion is just that, an opinion. It is not a fact. If NERC says it is the best option, the only thing true is that NERC SAYS it is the best option. Is it really the best option, we cannot say. But it does make the case for this option slightly stronger.

Now note what our question is : Which of the following, if true, indicates the plan to tow the oil platform to land is ill-suited to the environmentalist group’s goals?

We need to find the option that says: Hey Environmentalists! Your plan doesn't suit your goal. Your goal is X but your plan Y will ruin it.
Note that in this case a plan Z is irrelevant. We need to focus only on X and Y and how Y will ruin X.

X - Protect the ecosystem. (the goal of environmentalists)
Y - Tow the platform to land and then dismantle. (the plan of environmentalists)
Option (D) tells us why Y will ruin X and is the answer.

Z - Sink the oil platform
Z is irrelevant to our question and an expert supporting it is irrelevant too.
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A layman's opinion should be disregarded, no two ways about it. Whether an expert's opinion has any weight or not depends on the question and other options. Usually, an opinion is just that, an opinion. It is not a fact. If NERC says it is the best option, the only thing true is that NERC SAYS it is the best option. Is it really the best option, we cannot say. But it does make the case for this option slightly stronger.

Now note what our question is : Which of the following, if true, indicates the plan to tow the oil platform to land is ill-suited to the environmentalist group’s goals?

We need to find the option that says: Hey Environmentalists! Your plan doesn't suit your goal. Your goal is X but your plan Y will ruin it.
Note that in this case a plan Z is irrelevant. We need to focus only on X and Y and how Y will ruin X.

X - Protect the ecosystem. (the goal of environmentalists)
Y - Tow the platform to land and then dismantle. (the plan of environmentalists)
Option (D) tells us why Y will ruin X and is the answer.

Z - Sink the oil platform
Z is irrelevant to our question and an expert supporting it is irrelevant too.


Dear VeritasKarishma,

Thank you for your response.

I have 2+1 questions on the 2 highlighted portions above:

Q1. Do you intend to mean that choice A is a good candidate?

Q2. I don't think Z is irrelevant to our question because according to the question: environmentalists ARGUED that sinking the oil platform would cause irreparable damage to the deep sea ecosystem.

Choice A. clearly weakens this sentence, which is the SUPPORT the environmentalists use for the proposed plan. In other words, the reason why the proposed plan exists is that "sinking the oil platform" is really bad. Hence, choice A. falsifies that very reason and hence gives us one less reason why the proposed plan should exist now.

IMO, Z is not some other random plan. Z is the plan that environmentalists claim is bad. So, I think Z is relevant here.
Essentially, environmentalists say that Z is bad. Choice A. just says the opposite. It says Z is the BEST (= any other plans are WORSE), thereby weakening their support. This in turn weakens their plan.

Why is this thinking wrong?

(BTW, I agree that irrelevant plans that are better do not weaken the existing plan. However, I think Z is relevant in this case)

Q3. I have additional question from the Veritas official explanation as well.

The OE says: While the expert (in this case, the NERC) may give an official statement, this does NOT mean that the expert has the same goals or motives as the environmental groups have

How could they NOT have the same goals as the environmental groups?
NERC is the environmental agency and is supposed to protect the environmental as well.
IMO, it would be illogical to assume NERC, which is an official national agency for the environment, does not want to protect the environment.
I would be afraid to assume that the corporate may bribe the government environmental agency or that NERC arbitrarily makes official statements without well proven scientific research.

This post is a bit long.
Thank you for your patience :please :please :please
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VeritasKarishma wrote:
A layman's opinion should be disregarded, no two ways about it. Whether an expert's opinion has any weight or not depends on the question and other options. Usually, an opinion is just that, an opinion. It is not a fact. If NERC says it is the best option, the only thing true is that NERC SAYS it is the best option. Is it really the best option, we cannot say. But it does make the case for this option slightly stronger.

Now note what our question is : Which of the following, if true, indicates the plan to tow the oil platform to land is ill-suited to the environmentalist group’s goals?

We need to find the option that says: Hey Environmentalists! Your plan doesn't suit your goal. Your goal is X but your plan Y will ruin it.
Note that in this case a plan Z is irrelevant. We need to focus only on X and Y and how Y will ruin X.

X - Protect the ecosystem. (the goal of environmentalists)
Y - Tow the platform to land and then dismantle. (the plan of environmentalists)
Option (D) tells us why Y will ruin X and is the answer.

Z - Sink the oil platform
Z is irrelevant to our question and an expert supporting it is irrelevant too.


Dear VeritasKarishma,

Thank you for your response.

I have 2+1 questions on the 2 highlighted portions above:

Q1. Do you intend to mean that choice A is a good candidate?

Q2. I don't think Z is irrelevant to our question because according to the question: environmentalists ARGUED that sinking the oil platform would cause irreparable damage to the deep sea ecosystem.

Choice A. clearly weakens this sentence, which is the SUPPORT the environmentalists use for the proposed plan. In other words, the reason why the proposed plan exists is that "sinking the oil platform" is really bad. Hence, choice A. falsifies that very reason and hence gives us one less reason why the proposed plan should exist now.

IMO, Z is not some other random plan. Z is the plan that environmentalists claim is bad. So, I think Z is relevant here.
Essentially, environmentalists say that Z is bad. Choice A. just says the opposite. It says Z is the BEST (= any other plans are WORSE), thereby weakening their support. This in turn weakens their plan.

Why is this thinking wrong?

(BTW, I agree that irrelevant plans that are better do not weaken the existing plan. However, I think Z is relevant in this case)

Q3. I have additional question from the Veritas official explanation as well.

The OE says: While the expert (in this case, the NERC) may give an official statement, this does NOT mean that the expert has the same goals or motives as the environmental groups have

How could they NOT have the same goals as the environmental groups?
NERC is the environmental agency and is supposed to protect the environmental as well.
IMO, it would be illogical to assume NERC, which is an official national agency for the environment, does not want to protect the environment.
I would be afraid to assume that the corporate may bribe the government environmental agency or that NERC arbitrarily makes official statements without well proven scientific research.

This post is a bit long.
Thank you for your patience :please :please :please


Please don't get lost in the given information. An argument can give you a lot of irrelevant background.

Focus on the question:
Which of the following, if true, indicates the plan to tow the oil platform to land is ill-suited to the environmentalist group’s goals?

Now there are only two things you have to focus on:
What is the environmentalist group’s goal? Protect the ecosystem
What is the plan? To tow the platform to land

We are asked for the option which says that this plan to tow is ill suited to the goal. It doesn't ask us whether this plan is the best plan, whether there is another plan etc. Just for the option that says that towing to land could be bad for the environment. So that is all you need to focus on.

Option (A) is absolutely irrelevant to this question. We need to focus on only two things which are mentioned above. Some other plan has nothing to do with our question.

What do I mean when I say that option (A) makes the case for this plan a bit stronger - Had the question been different (say 2 plans were given and we were to find the better plan). An expert's opinion does add some weight to a plan. If NERC says that plan of sinking is the best, it does make the case for sinking stronger. Again, please note that, as given, plan of sinking is IRRELEVANT to our question. Since you asked a generic question (When the NERC or any other "expert" calls this approach “BEST practicable environmental option”, should we trust them and treat their statement as irrefutable fact?), I gave the generic answer. It has nothing to do with this question.
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VeritasKarishma wrote:
varotkorn wrote:
VeritasKarishma wrote:
A layman's opinion should be disregarded, no two ways about it. Whether an expert's opinion has any weight or not depends on the question and other options. Usually, an opinion is just that, an opinion. It is not a fact. If NERC says it is the best option, the only thing true is that NERC SAYS it is the best option. Is it really the best option, we cannot say. But it does make the case for this option slightly stronger.

Now note what our question is : Which of the following, if true, indicates the plan to tow the oil platform to land is ill-suited to the environmentalist group’s goals?

We need to find the option that says: Hey Environmentalists! Your plan doesn't suit your goal. Your goal is X but your plan Y will ruin it.
Note that in this case a plan Z is irrelevant. We need to focus only on X and Y and how Y will ruin X.

X - Protect the ecosystem. (the goal of environmentalists)
Y - Tow the platform to land and then dismantle. (the plan of environmentalists)
Option (D) tells us why Y will ruin X and is the answer.

Z - Sink the oil platform
Z is irrelevant to our question and an expert supporting it is irrelevant too.


Dear VeritasKarishma,

Thank you for your response.

I have 2+1 questions on the 2 highlighted portions above:

Q1. Do you intend to mean that choice A is a good candidate?

Q2. I don't think Z is irrelevant to our question because according to the question: environmentalists ARGUED that sinking the oil platform would cause irreparable damage to the deep sea ecosystem.

Choice A. clearly weakens this sentence, which is the SUPPORT the environmentalists use for the proposed plan. In other words, the reason why the proposed plan exists is that "sinking the oil platform" is really bad. Hence, choice A. falsifies that very reason and hence gives us one less reason why the proposed plan should exist now.

IMO, Z is not some other random plan. Z is the plan that environmentalists claim is bad. So, I think Z is relevant here.
Essentially, environmentalists say that Z is bad. Choice A. just says the opposite. It says Z is the BEST (= any other plans are WORSE), thereby weakening their support. This in turn weakens their plan.

Why is this thinking wrong?

(BTW, I agree that irrelevant plans that are better do not weaken the existing plan. However, I think Z is relevant in this case)

Q3. I have additional question from the Veritas official explanation as well.

The OE says: While the expert (in this case, the NERC) may give an official statement, this does NOT mean that the expert has the same goals or motives as the environmental groups have

How could they NOT have the same goals as the environmental groups?
NERC is the environmental agency and is supposed to protect the environmental as well.
IMO, it would be illogical to assume NERC, which is an official national agency for the environment, does not want to protect the environment.
I would be afraid to assume that the corporate may bribe the government environmental agency or that NERC arbitrarily makes official statements without well proven scientific research.

This post is a bit long.
Thank you for your patience :please :please :please


Please don't get lost in the given information. An argument can give you a lot of irrelevant background.

Focus on the question:
Which of the following, if true, indicates the plan to tow the oil platform to land is ill-suited to the environmentalist group’s goals?

Now there are only two things you have to focus on:
What is the environmentalist group’s goal? Protect the ecosystem
What is the plan? To tow the platform to land

We are asked for the option which says that this plan to tow is ill suited to the goal. It doesn't ask us whether this plan is the best plan, whether there is another plan etc. Just for the option that says that towing to land could be bad for the environment. So that is all you need to focus on.

Option (A) is absolutely irrelevant to this question. We need to focus on only two things which are mentioned above. Some other plan has nothing to do with our question.

What do I mean when I say that option (A) makes the case for this plan a bit stronger - Had the question been different (say 2 plans were given and we were to find the better plan). An expert's opinion does add some weight to a plan. If NERC says that plan of sinking is the best, it does make the case for sinking stronger. Again, please note that, as given, plan of sinking is IRRELEVANT to our question. Since you asked a generic question (When the NERC or any other "expert" calls this approach “BEST practicable environmental option”, should we trust them and treat their statement as irrefutable fact?), I gave the generic answer. It has nothing to do with this question.


Thank you Ma'am. It is much clearer now.
By the way, I am very honored and humbled that your response to mine is 9999th of your post!

Thank you for your support as always :please :please :please
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