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Re: The majority of successful senior managers do not closely [#permalink]
ajaygupta2021 wrote:
Which of the following best describes the organization of the first paragraph of
the passage?
(A) An assertion is made and a specific supporting example is given.
(B) A conventional model is dismissed and an alternative introduced.
(C) The results of recent research are introduced and summarized.
(D) Two opposing points of view are presented and evaluated.
(E) A widely accepted definition is presented and qualified.

why tha OA is B and not D ?
how he is dismissing the conventional model of problem solving , he is just contrasting it with intuition approach


If we see closely in the 1st paragraph, author is stating a conventional way and by using "RATHER" transitional word author is dismissing the conventional way and introducing an alternative model. Later on, the whole passage talks about the alternative model.
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I have a concern over Q7-D. Why III is an inference?
It can be inferred from the passage that “thinking/acting cycles” (line 45) in managerial practice would be likely to result in which of the following?

I. A manager analyzes a network of problems and then acts on the basis of that analysis.
II. A manager gathers data by acting and observing the effects of action.
III. A manager takes action without being able to articulate reasons for that particular action.

(A) I only
(B) II only
(C) I and II only
(D) II and III only
(E) I, II, and III


We have "Given the great uncertainty of many of the management issues that they face, senior managers often instigate a course of action simply to learn more about an issue.". I think the statement can be considered a reason why they act - "to learn more abt an issue". So we can't say (III) "A manager takes action without being able to articulate reasons for that particular action.". A manager can articulate the reason, which is "to learn more abt an issue".

Could anyone shed some light on this?
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I have a concern over Q7-D. Why III is an inference?
It can be inferred from the passage that “thinking/acting cycles” (line 45) in managerial practice would be likely to result in which of the following?

I. A manager analyzes a network of problems and then acts on the basis of that analysis.
II. A manager gathers data by acting and observing the effects of action.
III. A manager takes action without being able to articulate reasons for that particular action.

(A) I only
(B) II only
(C) I and II only
(D) II and III only
(E) I, II, and III


We have "Given the great uncertainty of many of the management issues that they face, senior managers often instigate a course of action simply to learn more about an issue.". I think the statement can be considered a reason why they act - "to learn more abt an issue". So we can't say (III) "A manager takes action without being able to articulate reasons for that particular action.". A manager can articulate the reason, which is "to learn more abt an issue".

Could anyone shed some light on this?
I am also looking forward to the OA of this question! teal

Although the writer of this passage is able to articulate this reason (to learn more about an issue), the managers themselves might not be able to articulate that reason.

More importantly, we can trace the third inference back to paragraph three, where another implication of thinking/acting cycles is described:

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One of the implications of the intuitive style of executive management is that “thinking” is inseparable from acting. Since managers often “know” what is right before they can analyze and explain it, they frequently act first and explain later. Analysis is inextricably tied to action in thinking/acting cycles, in which managers develop thoughts about their companies and organizations not by analyzing a problematic situation and then acting, but by acting and analyzing in close concert.

  • Managers don't analyze a problem first and then act. Instead, they engage in thinking/acting cycles, in which action and analysis are intertwined -- "thinking" is inseparable from acting.
  • Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later." Why? Because they "often 'know' what is right before they can analyze and explain it."
  • So it is reasonable to infer that intuitive managers who engage in thinking/action cycles often take action without being able to articulate reasons for that particular action.

I hope that helps!
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Can anyone explain why not option A in question 5? and why not option E in Q4? Thanks in advance
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Can anyone explain why not option A in question 5? and why not option E in Q4? Thanks in advance

Question 4


Here's choice (E):

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According to the passage, senior managers use intuition in all of the following ways EXCEPT to
(E) evaluate possible solutions to a problem

The third paragraph tells us that some managers will rely on intuition to evaluate solutions that have been reached through formal decision analysis:

    "Fourth, some managers use intuition as a check on the results of more rational analysis. Most senior executives are familiar with the formal decision analysis models and tools, and those who use such systematic methods for reaching decisions are occasionally leery of solutions suggested by these methods which run counter to their sense of the correct course of action."

We were asked which answer choice is NOT a way that senior managers use intuition, so (E) can be eliminated.

Question 5


Here's choice (A):

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The passage suggests which of the following about the “writers on management” mentioned in line 12?
(A) They have criticized managers for not following the classical rational model of decision analysis.

(A) can be eliminated because the author never indicates that these generations of writers on management have criticized managers — let alone criticized managers for not following the classical rational model.

You can check out my previous explanation of question 5 if you're still not sure how to get to the correct answer. But without more information on why you think (A) could be correct, I can't say much more about why it's not. The evidence simply isn't there.

I hope this helps!
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can someone please explain q8?
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esha12012000 wrote:
can someone please explain q8?


Hi Esha

Q8 asks us to describe the organization of the first paragraph. Upon reading, we can summarize the gist of the first paragraphs as follows:

Most successful managers do not follow the traditional "rational model" of decision making, but rely on intuition to manage a network of interconnected problems.

Now, let us examine the answer options:

(A) An assertion is made and a specific supporting example is given. While an assertion is made, no supporting examples are given. Eliminate.

(B) A conventional model is dismissed and an alternative introduced. This appears promising. While I don't like the usage of the word "dismissed" for the way the rational model is treated in the first paragraph, it is definitely set aside for a different approach. We can hold on to this option at this stage.

(C) The results of recent research are introduced and summarized. The first paragraph does not talk about any research. Eliminate.

(D) Two opposing points of view are presented and evaluated. We can consider the first paragraph to be presenting two opposing points of view. However, there is no "evaluation" of either view in the first paragraph. Eliminate.

(E) A widely accepted definition is presented and qualified. If we consider the first half of the first paragraph as presenting a "definition" of the rational model, the second half of the first paragraph does not "qualify" this definition in any way but deals with a completely different model altogether. Eliminate.

As we can see, the only option that comes close to being fully correct is option (B), and hence is the correct answer.

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doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing
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doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing



Hi saby1410,

Please refer the following explanation by expert: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-majority ... l#p2432105

Your doubts have been referred to in this reply.

Let me know if you still have doubts.

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saby1410 wrote:
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Link isn't working can you explain i have read ninja solution but i still have doubt


doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing



Hi saby1410,

Please refer the following explanation by expert: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-majority ... l#p2432105

Your doubts have been referred to in this reply.

Let me know if you still have doubts.

Thanks.


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Link isn't working llease can you expalin i read ninja's solution but i wasn't satisfied ghat's why i asked again
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bm2201 wrote:
saby1410 wrote:
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Link isn't working can you explain i have read ninja solution but i still have doubt


doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing



Hi saby1410,

Please refer the following explanation by expert: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-majority ... l#p2432105

Your doubts have been referred to in this reply.

Let me know if you still have doubts.

Thanks.


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Link isn't working llease can you expalin i read ninja's solution but i wasn't satisfied ghat's why i asked again


Let me know if this helps.

Quote:
One of the implications of the intuitive style of executive management is that “thinking” is inseparable from acting. Since managers often “know” what is right before they can analyze and explain it, they frequently act first and explain later. Analysis is inextricably tied to action in thinking/acting cycles, in which managers develop thoughts about their companies and organizations not by analyzing a problematic situation and then acting, but by acting and analyzing in close concert.


These lines imply that yes managers usually know what they are doing, which is why they act first , and then explain it. Managers possessing intuition usually take action first before they can provide a reason for the same.

Which is why statement I in question 7 is wrong. Managers usually first act and then analyze or provide a reason for their action.


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saby1410 wrote:
bm2201 wrote:
saby1410 wrote:
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Link isn't working can you explain i have read ninja solution but i still have doubt


doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing



Hi saby1410,

Please refer the following explanation by expert: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-majority ... l#p2432105

Your doubts have been referred to in this reply.

Let me know if you still have doubts.

Thanks.


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Link isn't working llease can you expalin i read ninja's solution but i wasn't satisfied ghat's why i asked again


Let me know if this helps.

Quote:
One of the implications of the intuitive style of executive management is that “thinking” is inseparable from acting. Since managers often “know” what is right before they can analyze and explain it, they frequently act first and explain later. Analysis is inextricably tied to action in thinking/acting cycles, in which managers develop thoughts about their companies and organizations not by analyzing a problematic situation and then acting, but by acting and analyzing in close concert.


These lines imply that yes managers usually know what they are doing, which is why they act first , and then explain it. Managers possessing intuition usually take action first before they can provide a reason for the same.

Which is why statement I in question 7 is wrong. Managers usually first act and then analyze or provide a reason for their action.


Thanks.




My question is for statement 3 not for statement 1

If managers know what they are doing isn't meant that they articulate reason for particular action
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bm2201 wrote:
saby1410 wrote:
bm2201 wrote:
saby1410 wrote:
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Link isn't working can you explain i have read ninja solution but i still have doubt


doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing



Hi saby1410,

Please refer the following explanation by expert: https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-majority ... l#p2432105

Your doubts have been referred to in this reply.

Let me know if you still have doubts.

Thanks.


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Link isn't working llease can you expalin i read ninja's solution but i wasn't satisfied ghat's why i asked again


Let me know if this helps.

Quote:
One of the implications of the intuitive style of executive management is that “thinking” is inseparable from acting. Since managers often “know” what is right before they can analyze and explain it, they frequently act first and explain later. Analysis is inextricably tied to action in thinking/acting cycles, in which managers develop thoughts about their companies and organizations not by analyzing a problematic situation and then acting, but by acting and analyzing in close concert.


These lines imply that yes managers usually know what they are doing, which is why they act first , and then explain it. Managers possessing intuition usually take action first before they can provide a reason for the same.

Which is why statement I in question 7 is wrong. Managers usually first act and then analyze or provide a reason for their action.


Thanks.




My question is for statement 3 not for statement 1

If managers know what they are doing isn't meant that they articulate reason for particular action


Statement 3: "A manager takes action without being able to articulate reasons for that particular action."

So to answer your question, since managers know what they are doing (from the inference drawn in above replies), as they act before they can actually analyse or explain their actions, they often take action without being able to articulate reasons for their actions.

So when they are actually taking the action, they have no reasons for it.
Whether they can explain it later or not is not the point of the statement, though they can explain it later.


Hope this Helps.
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saby1410 wrote:
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doubt regarding question 7

Managers who engage in such thinking/acting cycles will "frequently act first and explain later."

if they can explain later then doesn't it meant they do know what they are doing


Note the last two sentences of third paragraph:

"Since managers often “know” what is right before they can analyze and explain it, they frequently act first and explain later. Analysis is inextricably tied to action in thinking/acting cycles, in which managers develop thoughts about their companies and organizations not by analyzing a problematic situation and then acting, but by acting and analyzing in close concert."

Managers "know" what is right before they can explain it so they act first. They explain later once they understand why it was right. They use intuition while acting. While acting, they know that it is right but they may not know why it is right.
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can somone explain question 4 please?
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I'm not sure why these posts have got random questions composed by randomers, I expected OG questions
not sure why GMAT Club continues to allow this, it simply distorts the learning process,

Althouoght I got only 1 incorrect, the questions that are non-og seem very unusual, I wish they would stop drafting their own questions
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can somone explain question 4 please?

Here's question 4:
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According to the passage, senior managers use intuition in all of the following ways EXCEPT to

In the third paragraph, the author lists 5 ways in which senior managers use intuition. Senior managers:

    1) "intuitively sense when a problem exists"
    2) "rely on intuition to perform well-learned behavior patterns rapidly."
    3) "synthesize isolated bits of data and practice into an integrated picture, often in an “Aha!” experience"
    4) "use intuition as a check on the results of more rational analysis." This use of intuition is further described: "Most senior executives are familiar with the formal decision analysis models and tools, and those who use such systematic methods for reaching decisions are occasionally leery of solutions suggested by these methods which run counter to their sense of the correct course of action."
    5) Finally, senior manager use intuition "to bypass in-depth analysis and move rapidly to engender a plausible solution."

To answer question 4, we can eliminate any answer choices that point to one of the uses of intuition above. The remaining answer choice is the one NOT mentioned in the passage.

Quote:
(A) speed up of the creation of a solution to a problem

This aligns nicely with 5) above, so we can eliminate (A).

Quote:
(B) identify a problem

Yup, this matches 1). Eliminate (B).

Quote:
(C) bring together disparate facts

This is just like 3), so we can get rid of it.

Quote:
(D) stipulate clear goals

Hmmm... not seeing anything about goals in the list of ways senior managers use intuition. Because this is NOT mentioned in the passage, it is the correct answer.

Let's finish by checking on (E):
Quote:
(E) evaluate possible solutions to a problem

This aligns with 4) in our list. Senior managers use intuition to evaluate whether solutions make sense.

Everything except (D) is listed in the passage, so (D) is the answer to question 4.

I hope that helps!
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