Trump trying to limit OPT

I thought that the spat was against both OPT and H1B visas

I believe we must all be hopeful of whatever the scenario is going to be. For sure, US would wish to protect the jobs for US natives but it is also a fact that limiting the OPT or targeting the jobs where postgrad students are working won't make much of a difference. I feel that we must all stick onto our plans and have a Plan B in case things don't work out. Though, I would wish things to go back to normal as it were before but we can never tell.

Fingers Crossed!

But shouldn’t the MSc. applicants rather be worried about OPT than most of the MBA app. are?

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I don’t think things will ever go back to normal ,even if it does it will never be the same again. Though am positive vibes person, this the reality
Now for plan B yeah! you should always have one. Will you be affected anyway,Incase the OPT smackdown materializes?

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I have been screaming about OPT/H1B and green card wait (of 100 years for Indian citizens) here for some time now. I came to US in 2007 and literally nobody warned me about insanely idiotic american immigration laws are when I moved here; so I'm trying to warn/help others. High level:

1. Only (I repeat ONLY) come to US if you are going to Top 10 schools - chances are that you won't have OPT and H1B lottery (yes it's literally a lottery - US is only insane nation that selects immigrants via lottery - almost all other countries have merit/point based system) selects only 85k out of 300k or so petitions. Assume that you are going to have go back after MBA/Masters

2. Do NOT get into insane debt - chances are that you'll have to pay it back with Indian/Chinese salary

3. If you are looking to start a business, do NOT come to the US at all. Like I said, there's a 100 year wait time to get green card and you can't start a business unless you have green card. You'll be better off going to top schools in Canada or UK if you want to start a business post MBA/MS.

4. While you wait for green card, you are just one layoff away from losing everything, you have 60 days to pack your bags and leave.

5. If you think I'm exaggerating this, google "Green Card Backlog India/China" (PS - I myself I'm in green card line in 2013 - that means I have passed all the background checks and USCIS/DHS checks in 2015 but there are no GC spots for Indians)

H1B's have been an area of focus but Tech giants have strong lobbying positions so not as worrysome. Already there are caps, etc.
OPT has never really gotten much of attention (and only expanded with the STEM certifications that all bschols just finished getting) and now this....

Why do you feel so? What makes MBA students more insulated than MSc?

Hi guys,
You might want to check https://www.vox.com/2020/5/24/21266920/ ... on-student It's an interesting read

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I stand to be corrected bb,prior to the STEM designation of most MBA’s ,Wasn’t mba grads sought after by these companies?

elPatron434 what’s your view on that?
I personally would want to put my shoes into those of the American job seeker.
Having said that,I think it should be modified to suit the American job seeker,business,univ etc. not a total halt or whatever.

To be frank, I don't know if I've got my data points straight to have an honest opinion on this. I'd have to check the impact of the covid on tech and consulting ( mainly what international students recruit for ) and look at how many people have been let go.

The eCommerce space in my view encompasses a variety of sectors. You have Amazon which has been fairly resilient while there are other US based compnies who are into travel and experiences and have been hit very hard. A student entering either of the organizations would be classified as moving into tech to the best of my knowledge. bb, please correct me on this.

Based on data points like this I'd love to know the overall impact on the American citizen. If there's not a significant impact, I'd be very disappointed with a blanket ban on recruitment in these sectors. Otherwise I'd understand if there's some sort of restrictions imposed on the international students.

While I'd love for these constraints not to exist, it'd be incredibly foolish and illogical of me to not expect some sort preference for the American worker.

One major thing worth watching would be the sentiment of hiring organizations. Even if there are no explicit restrictions on the hiring of international students for roles, it would be interesting to see if companies actually want to sponsor MBA candidates. The pool of the MBA unlike that of the MS(atleast in the computer science related streams) is predominantly domestic and the companies (probably the smaller ones) might feel that they have a bigger pool of domestic candidates for a requisite skillset to choose from and might not want to risk the hassle of hiring an international candidate. I would love to know the thoughts of current students on this.

I concur with bb and feel that the situation is grim for the international student (particularly from places with a weaker currency).

I hope I made sense!

Hi bb,
Can we please have a GMAT club YouTube session on this? Since Souvik and Sam (or any current or recently graduated student) are seeing this first hand and are recruiting/have recently recruited, their views would be highly beneficial to prospective students.

Just a thought!

Thanks!

I second this

Thank you for the recommendation - it is a good question. I will definitely communicate and request, but you know "the talent" has a mind of its own and very particular about the Video topics

HA!

This sounds like a good topic and I would love to talk about this. Let me gather some of my international student friends to see if we can get a panel going!

Thanks Souvik!

Hello fellas,
is this topic serious? what is the source? where can we follow the details?