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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   25 Nov 2017, 16:58
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


Hi mikemcgarry,

Can you please help me understand the difference A and E. Also is "in that" preferable as a part of the correct answer choice on the GMAT ? The in one of its question states that the use of in that is considered stilted and overly formal.
Need your inputs on this.

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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   27 Nov 2017, 15:21
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Hi mikemcgarry,

Can you please help me understand the difference A and E. Also is "in that" preferable as a part of the correct answer choice on the GMAT ? The in one of its question states that the use of in that is considered stilted and overly formal.
Need your inputs on this.

Thanks :-)

Dear Poorvasha,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

It's true that the "in that" structure is very sophisticated and formal, but all the language on the GMAT SC is sophisticated and formal, so this structure usually fits on the GMAT SC.

In this sentence, either "because" or "in that" would be correct. The problem in (A) is that the noun-modifying phrase that follows the underlined section is awkward--this phrase is meant to modify "tissue," not "tooth and bone," which it touches. The question of the phrase's target noun is ambiguous and muddy in (A), whereas (E) concisely cleans up this ambiguity.

Does all this make sense?
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   07 Aug 2019, 18:54
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

A is incorrect because the logical meaning is that the cancer is composed of tooth and bone not normally found in... which indicates that the cancer could typically be composed of tooth and bone, but not the type of tooth and bone found in the Teratomas.

If we had commas -...., such as tooth and bone,.... then this would be a perfect sentence.

The Teratomas are unusual because their composition is composed of tissues not normally found in x.

Had to read extremely carefully to get this illogical change.

B and C are out because of the use of Like here. We use for example/ such as to give examples.
There are more illogical meaning issues with B
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues

D is illogical - its not the composition itself that isn't found in the cancer location it's what the composition is made up of - the types of tissues
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is

(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues

E is structured as <independent clause> + [,] + <noun modifier>
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   12 Jul 2020, 11:36
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone

(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


Would (A) be correct if the examples were set off by commas? (i.e. because they are composed of tissues, such as tooth and bone, not normally ...) If so, would it still be more ambiguous than (E)?

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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   12 Jul 2020, 11:53
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone

(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


Would (A) be correct if the examples were set off by commas? (i.e. because they are composed of tissues, such as tooth and bone, not normally ...) If so, would it still be more ambiguous than (E)?

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Good question, costcosized. Such as is a tricky head to a phrase, and many times, it can be used in either a restrictive (i.e. without commas) or non-restrictive sense. If you place commas around such as tooth and bone in choice (A), the sentence is conveying that teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears. Both tooth and bone are used as examples of such tissues, and the meaning would be perfectly clear. You should not use a because/in that split as a basis for elimination, so if choice (E) were somehow altered to represent a clearly incorrect answer, then yes, the proposed (A) would win out.

Here is an article on the topic for further reading. Happy studies.

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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   23 Oct 2020, 23:13
Hi GMATNinja VeritasKarishma

In option E, I couldn't identify ", tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears" as a noun + noun modifier. Per my reading, I understood that the sentence is a passive construction and a complete independent sentence. This sentence is joined with the first sentence "Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone" by a comma and hence the construction is not correct.

Please can you help me understand where I am going wrong?
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   26 Oct 2020, 03:13
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Hi GMATNinja VeritasKarishma

In option E, I couldn't identify ", tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears" as a noun + noun modifier. Per my reading, I understood that the sentence is a passive construction and a complete independent sentence. This sentence is joined with the first sentence "Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone" by a comma and hence the construction is not correct.

Please can you help me understand where I am going wrong?


Think about it - How do you make a passive construction?

I found him. - Active
He was found by me. - Passive

The tissues were found ... - Passive

In our original sentence, there is no helping verb was/were. Here, 'found' acts as a past participle modifying 'tissues'.
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   01 Apr 2021, 03:10
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Hi :-)

but answer E is not a run-on? I mean are not 2 independent connected by a comma? why is it correct?

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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   02 Apr 2021, 02:25
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Hi :-)

but answer E is not a run-on? I mean are not 2 independent connected by a comma? why is it correct?

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Hey, gastoneMIT, is not :-)
in this case it is a clause that provides additional information about noun tissues, and thus plays role of "noun phrase".
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Hi :-)

but answer E is not a run-on? I mean are not 2 independent connected by a comma? why is it correct?

Many thanksssss

BLTN is spot-on. Notice that "tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears" (the part after the comma in E) is actually not an independent clause. In fact, it's not even a clause. "Found" is just a modifier that describes "tissues," and we don't have a verb for the noun "tissues."

The stuff after the comma is just some extra information describing "tissues such as tooth and bone," and we see this sort of thing all the time on the GMAT (the GMAT is pretty lenient when it comes to this sort of comma usage).

I hope that helps!
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   02 Jul 2021, 13:15
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone

(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues


Would (A) be correct if the examples were set off by commas? (i.e. because they are composed of tissues, such as tooth and bone, not normally ...) If so, would it still be more ambiguous than (E)?

Thanks

Good question, costcosized. Such as is a tricky head to a phrase, and many times, it can be used in either a restrictive (i.e. without commas) or non-restrictive sense. If you place commas around such as tooth and bone in choice (A), the sentence is conveying that teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears. Both tooth and bone are used as examples of such tissues, and the meaning would be perfectly clear. You should not use a because/in that split as a basis for elimination, so if choice (E) were somehow altered to represent a clearly incorrect answer, then yes, the proposed (A) would win out.

Here is an article on the topic for further reading. Happy studies.

- Andrew


Even without commas why can't it be right as tooth and bone are used as examples so not normally found....... should modify tissues
Is this option rejected becoz it creates confusion of modifier modifying tooth,tisues or bone

Is "in that" here used as because

Has confusion on role of in that for what purpose it's used

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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   04 Jul 2021, 14:44
I am still not sure what is wrong with D. isn't 'tissues such as tooth and bones' giving additional info about composition?

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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2021, 10:44
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Such as is used for examples
Like is used for similarity

In this case tooth and bone are examples of tissues, hence we need Such as. So Eliminate answer choices B and C

Further, what is not normally found ? Tissues not normally found, So Eliminate answer choices A and D.

Therefore E is the correct answer choice.
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   17 Jul 2021, 22:56
It took me 1:52 mins (E)
The reason I chose E is because I knew that "such" is the right word to display sameness than "like" which displays similarity. The other reason to chose E is the mention of tissues to be no normally found rather than the bone and tooth.
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   21 Jul 2021, 00:58
We've selected E over A because in A it is not clear if they are composed of tissues such as bone or they are composed of tissues such as bone [which is] not normally found....
Is my understanding correct or we've any other reason for choosing E and eliminating A?
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   24 Jul 2021, 15:46
Difference b/w 'as' and 'like'. Please tell a way so that i could avoid this mistake
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   10 Aug 2021, 07:08
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.



(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
Eleminated this for the sole reason that tissues at the end felt more appropriate

(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
like doesn't feel appropriate such as felt much better in the comparison

(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
These are joining depended clauses with comma which distorts the meaning

(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
Similar reasoning as C and 'is' isn't the appropriate word

(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues
This presents the right meaning and tense

Therefore IMO E
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Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   18 Aug 2021, 10:52
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208. Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not
normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone
not clear what is not normally found, tissues or tooth and bone
(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are
like is used for similarity, hence should not be used. Exaples are shown by such as
(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues
like is used for similarity, hence should not be used. Exaples are shown by such as
(D) in that their composition, tissues such as tooth and bone, is
awkward framing of the sentence
(E) in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues
Correct


Can someone help me understand how to tell based on the meaning of the sentence when to use "like" vs "such as". I know "like" is used in scenarios when you are comparing two different things, and "such as" is used when you are listing examples. However, in this sentence, it seems more logical to me that the "tooth and bone" are being compared to the tissues of the teratomas, meaning that the tissues of the teratomas are similar to tooth and bone. It also seems less logical that tooth and bone are examples of tissues found in the composition of a form of cancer. Since cancer doesn't have teeth or bones.

Any help would be great! Thanks
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   14 Sep 2021, 07:46
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Can someone help me understand how to tell based on the meaning of the sentence when to use "like" vs "such as". I know "like" is used in scenarios when you are comparing two different things, and "such as" is used when you are listing examples. However, in this sentence, it seems more logical to me that the "tooth and bone" are being compared to the tissues of the teratomas, meaning that the tissues of the teratomas are similar to tooth and bone. It also seems less logical that tooth and bone are examples of tissues found in the composition of a form of cancer. Since cancer doesn't have teeth or bones.

Any help would be great! Thanks

"It also seems less logical that tooth and bone are examples of tissues found in the composition of a form of cancer. Since cancer doesn't have teeth or bones."

That's why the sentence starts with "Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because..." What follows should be something that explains why teratomas are unusual forms of cancer -- the fact that they are composed of tissues NOT normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears is what makes teratomas unusual:

  • Let's say there's a tumor in the ovaries. If it's a normal form of cancer, that tumor will likely be composed of tissues that ARE normally found in the ovaries. But if it's a teratoma, the tumor will be composed of tissues that are NOT normally found in the ovaries -- such as bone tissue or tooth tissue.
  • Yes, it is unusual for a cancerous tumor to have bone tissue or tooth tissue. But since we are expecting something unusual given the context, this seemingly "less logical" meaning actually makes a lot of sense. (Btw, according to the internet, "'Teratoma' is Greek for 'monstrous tumor'; these tumors were so named because they sometimes contain hair, teeth, bone, neurons, and even eyes...")
  • If we go with "like" (or "similar to"), then we are left wondering, "How are these cancerous tissues LIKE tooth and bone? Is it because the tumors are white in color and hard to the touch? And what exactly makes teratomas unique? Is it the tooth and bone part? Being composed of tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears? Both of those features combined?"

The meaning is actually LESS clear if we go with like/similar to (as in choice B). Given the context, "such as" is more appropriate.

I hope that helps!
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Re: Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tis [#permalink] New post   29 Oct 2021, 08:02
I am a bit confused. Please help.

Isn't option E repetitive:
Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer in that they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone, tissues not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

Why do you need the additional 'tissues' again?

I chose option D: the T's are unusual because of their composition . . . .
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