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5 out of 8 in 9 minutes not completely concentrated............mmmmm not so bad.

Please could you provide the last one OE (the contenders was B and C and I Picked B) ???

Thanks for the nice passage


OE for Question 8:

In the last sentence, the author concludes that kin
recognition in tiger salamanders can be explained as a
means for preserving their own life and not as a means
for aiding their relatives’ survival. While the evidence
regarding the deadly bacterium definitely supports kin
recognition being used to preserve the individual, there
is no evidence to say that kin recognition is not used
to aid relatives’ survival. The author ignores the
possibility that kin recognition may serve to protect
oneself and one’s relatives. To weaken the claim, the
correct answer choice will show a way that a tiger
salamander would use kin recognition to protect
someone other than itself.

(A) This has no relevance to the argument. What’s
impor tant is not whether the disease af fects
cannibalistic or noncannibalistic salamanders, but
whether or not it affects kin and kin recognition.
Eliminate.
(B) This discusses what makes salamanders
carnivorous or omnivorous, but it has no bearing on
why salamanders recognize kin. Eliminate.
(C) gives us a fact that would weaken the author’s claim.
If this were true, then kin recognition would provide a way
for salamanders to protect their offspring—thus making
kin recognition valuable beyond survival of the individual.
By protecting potential family, this weakens the author’s
claim that kin recognition is simply a self-serving device.
For the record:
(D) This answer misapplies some information from the
first paragraph about the number of offspring (part of
traditional evolutionary views). However, once again,
the number of offspring a salamander has is not
directly relevant to the reason for being able to
recognize kin.
(E) Even if this were true, according to the passage,
they’re still immune to the one deadly bacterium that’s
mentioned. And, because that particular bacterium is
more deadly when consumed through kin, the greater
immunity to other diseases isn’t necessarily relevant to
kin recognition.

It’s good to note for this question that the correct answer
is the only one that focuses on kin recognition, the Topic
of the argument the question asks us to weaken.
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carcass wrote:
5 out of 8 in 9 minutes not completely concentrated............mmmmm not so bad.

Please could you provide the last one OE (the contenders was B and C and I Picked B) ???

Thanks for the nice passage


OE for Question 8:

In the last sentence, the author concludes that kin
recognition in tiger salamanders can be explained as a
means for preserving their own life and not as a means
for aiding their relatives’ survival. While the evidence
regarding the deadly bacterium definitely supports kin
recognition being used to preserve the individual, there
is no evidence to say that kin recognition is not used
to aid relatives’ survival. The author ignores the
possibility that kin recognition may serve to protect
oneself and one’s relatives. To weaken the claim, the
correct answer choice will show a way that a tiger
salamander would use kin recognition to protect
someone other than itself.

(A) This has no relevance to the argument. What’s
impor tant is not whether the disease af fects
cannibalistic or noncannibalistic salamanders, but
whether or not it affects kin and kin recognition.
Eliminate.
(B) This discusses what makes salamanders
carnivorous or omnivorous, but it has no bearing on
why salamanders recognize kin. Eliminate.
(C) gives us a fact that would weaken the author’s claim.
If this were true, then kin recognition would provide a way
for salamanders to protect their offspring—thus making
kin recognition valuable beyond survival of the individual.
By protecting potential family, this weakens the author’s
claim that kin recognition is simply a self-serving device.
For the record:
(D) This answer misapplies some information from the
first paragraph about the number of offspring (part of
traditional evolutionary views). However, once again,
the number of offspring a salamander has is not
directly relevant to the reason for being able to
recognize kin.
(E) Even if this were true, according to the passage,
they’re still immune to the one deadly bacterium that’s
mentioned. And, because that particular bacterium is
more deadly when consumed through kin, the greater
immunity to other diseases isn’t necessarily relevant to
kin recognition.

It’s good to note for this question that the correct answer
is the only one that focuses on kin recognition, the Topic
of the argument the question asks us to weaken.


Hi,
why does breeding matter here. The paragraph talks about feeding only.

Also please provide OE for Q5.
5. The passage most strongly supports which one of the following statements about the mechanism by which cannibal spadefoot toad tadpoles recognize their kin?
(A) It is not dependent solely on the use of visual cues.
(B) It is neither utilized nor possessed by those tadpoles that do not become cannibalistic.
(C) It does not always allow a tadpole to distinguish its siblings from tadpoles that are not siblings.
(D) It is rendered unnecessary by physiological changes accompanying the dietary shift from omnivorousness to carnivorousness.
(E) It could not have developed in a species in which all members are omnivorous.
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PraPon wrote:
carcass wrote:
5 out of 8 in 9 minutes not completely concentrated............mmmmm not so bad.

Please could you provide the last one OE (the contenders was B and C and I Picked B) ???

Thanks for the nice passage


OE for Question 8:

In the last sentence, the author concludes that kin
recognition in tiger salamanders can be explained as a
means for preserving their own life and not as a means
for aiding their relatives’ survival. While the evidence
regarding the deadly bacterium definitely supports kin
recognition being used to preserve the individual, there
is no evidence to say that kin recognition is not used
to aid relatives’ survival. The author ignores the
possibility that kin recognition may serve to protect
oneself and one’s relatives. To weaken the claim, the
correct answer choice will show a way that a tiger
salamander would use kin recognition to protect
someone other than itself.

(A) This has no relevance to the argument. What’s
impor tant is not whether the disease af fects
cannibalistic or noncannibalistic salamanders, but
whether or not it affects kin and kin recognition.
Eliminate.
(B) This discusses what makes salamanders
carnivorous or omnivorous, but it has no bearing on
why salamanders recognize kin. Eliminate.
(C) gives us a fact that would weaken the author’s claim.
If this were true, then kin recognition would provide a way
for salamanders to protect their offspring—thus making
kin recognition valuable beyond survival of the individual.
By protecting potential family, this weakens the author’s
claim that kin recognition is simply a self-serving device.
For the record:
(D) This answer misapplies some information from the
first paragraph about the number of offspring (part of
traditional evolutionary views). However, once again,
the number of offspring a salamander has is not
directly relevant to the reason for being able to
recognize kin.
(E) Even if this were true, according to the passage,
they’re still immune to the one deadly bacterium that’s
mentioned. And, because that particular bacterium is
more deadly when consumed through kin, the greater
immunity to other diseases isn’t necessarily relevant to
kin recognition.

It’s good to note for this question that the correct answer
is the only one that focuses on kin recognition, the Topic
of the argument the question asks us to weaken.


Hi,
why does breeding matter here. The paragraph talks about feeding only.

Also please provide OE for Q5.
5. The passage most strongly supports which one of the following statements about the mechanism by which cannibal spadefoot toad tadpoles recognize their kin?
(A) It is not dependent solely on the use of visual cues.
(B) It is neither utilized nor possessed by those tadpoles that do not become cannibalistic.
(C) It does not always allow a tadpole to distinguish its siblings from tadpoles that are not siblings.
(D) It is rendered unnecessary by physiological changes accompanying the dietary shift from omnivorousness to carnivorousness.
(E) It could not have developed in a species in which all members are omnivorous.


Here is the OE for Q5:
The mechanism of a tadpole for recognizing kin is
described in lines 39–42. It involves nipping at other
tadpoles to determine whether they are siblings or not.
(A) is definitely supported by the information in the
passage. Nipping on other tadpoles is not a visual act,
so the mechanism seems to be at least partially based
on taste or touch. For the record:
(B) Outside the Scope. We know this is the behavior of
cannibalistic tadpoles, but we don’t know what
noncannibalistic tadpoles do. For all we know, they may
nip at other tadpoles, too. In fact, according to the
passage, tadpoles can become cannibalistic after first
accidentally eating another tadpole. So, it doesn’t
seem much of a stretch to consider that some
noncarnivorous tadpoles might also nip other tadpoles.
(C) Outside the Scope. Based on the last sentence, we
know that tadpoles will still eat siblings in extreme
circumstance. However, that’s not because the
mechanism doesn’t work—it’s because of hunger.
There’s no support for this.
(D) 180. The tadpoles utilize this mechanism after
changing physiologically and becoming carnivorous.
(E) 180. Line 32 states that all of these tadpoles start
life as omnivores. Furthermore, we don’t have any
information about other species beyond the tadpoles,
so we can’t infer this.
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Can you please explain Question 7 and why option B is wrong in it.

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Taking note of where all examples appear, even
seemingly minor ones, can save research time when
questions ask about them.

The honeybees were mentioned at the end of the first
paragraph. According to the paragraph, the honeybees’
behavior of nur turing relatives was “previously
mysterious,” but the inclusive fitness theory helped
explain it. We want an answer choice that’s consistent
with this prediction.
(A) The behavior was known, it was just unexplained.
Eliminate.
(B) There’s no discussion of this kind of reciprocal
nurturing. Eliminate.
(C) While the new theory helps to explain this behavior,
the behavior was simply described as previously
mysterious. This suggests the behavior was merely an
enigma and not necessarily a catalyst for dismissing
traditional theory. Eliminate.
(D) is a grand distortion. The inclusive fitness theory
(which helps explain the honeybees’ behavior) still
states that evolution proceeds by natural selection—
just in a different way from what traditional theories
state. Eliminate.
(E) is a match. It was mysterious under traditional
theories, so some supplement (in this case, the
inclusive fitness theory) was needed to dispel some of
the mystery.
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Hi Prapon ,

For question 6 , the option E i.e The mechanisms operate differently in different species even when they serve exactly the same function also seems perfectly fine . Could you please explain the reasoning behind Option b ?Thanks in advance !
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Can someone please explain Q4?

"A" makes sense. I just couldn't eliminate "C".

I thought 4C says that it lends support to what's mentioned 2nd paragraph which is this:
The fact that this bacterium is more deadly when it comes from a close relative with a similar immune system suggests that natural selection may favor cannibals that avoid such pathogens by not eating kin.

Why is C wrong?
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Q2 :

i dont agree with OA :B
passage - that occasionally one tadpole eats another or eats a freshwater shrimp. This event CAN trigger changes in the tadpole’s physiology and dietary preference, causing the tadpole to become larger and exclusively carnivorous

2. The passage states which one of the following about some spadefoot toad tadpoles?
(A) They develop the ability to recognize fellow carnivores.- the cannibals have a procedure of discrimination whereby they nip at( they bite first and then recognize related tadbole) other tadpoles, eating non-siblings but releasing siblings unharmed. This shows the abiity to recognize fellow carnivores. - Ther are still too many errors in this AC: We dont know if this ability is inherent or developed later. How closely CANNIBAL characterisics resemble TADPLES not sure.
(B) They feed only upon omnivorous tadpoles.
(C) They change in body size when they become carnivores.- why wrong? 1. there is a probability mentioned and this AC makes a generalised statement. 2. There is no correlation or causation mentioned to say "they change in body size WHEN they become carnivores"
(D) Their carnivorousness constitutes an important piece of evidence that calls into question the inclusive fitness theory.
(E) Their carnivorousness would not occur unless it contributed in some way to the evolutionary success of the spadefoot toad species.

Why cant we make an inference here?
The passage states which one of the following about some spadefoot toad tadpoles? -- we are asked to find " what the passage STATES" so this has to be directly deductible from passage... rewording is allower but extra info nope.

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23 minutes, 5/8 correct. Can someone please help me with Q5? Option A says 'does not solely rely on visual clues'. This means that the tadpole has sight and uses visual clues. But nowhere in the passage is it mentioned that the tadpoles can see. They might be blind, sensing their surroundings through some other mechanism. Option A assumes that the tadpoles have sight.

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I found this passage on Khan Academy LSAT mini-test (which, by the way, is a great resource for extra RC and CR practice-- it includes 10 practice tests with solutions, as well as practice sets targeting specific CR question types).

workout, should we notify you or another modifier if we notice that a source could be tagged more specifically? Thanks
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23 minutes, 5/8 correct. Can someone please help me with Q5? Option A says 'does not solely rely on visual clues'. This means that the tadpole has sight and uses visual clues. But nowhere in the passage is it mentioned that the tadpoles can see. They might be blind, sensing their surroundings through some other mechanism. Option A assumes that the tadpoles have sight.

Help is greatly appreciated. THanks!


GittinGud "does NOT SOLELY rely on visual clues" does NOT mean the tadpole has sight, it just means that <100% of its ability to recognize kin comes from visual cues -- it's possible that 0% could come from visual cues.

As a general rule, "not all" mathematically translates to <100%.

This question is a great example of a very common GMAT RC pattern I call "Infer Opposite" -- the wording of the answer is a negated version of what's said in the passage. As a very simple example, if the passage says "X is more than Y", the answer might say "Y is less than X".

The passage says "Yet the cannibals have a procedure of discrimination whereby they NIP at other tadpoles, eating non-siblings but releasing siblings". "Nip" is evidence of a mechanism other than "visual cues". So, A is a perfect match for this "Infer Opposite" pattern.
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Please post official answer for 4th. PrashantPonde Sajjad1994



Have some confusion among options A, E and C.
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Please post official answer for 4th. PrashantPonde Sajjad1994

Have some confusion among options A, E and C.


Hi imSKR,

OE Is present as the spoiler just before the respective question.

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4. Which one of the following most accurately describes the function of the last sentence of the second paragraph?

Difficulty Level: 700

Explanation

When a sentence is presented in contrast to previous sentences, expect a wrong answer to be completely opposite of what you’re looking for. To understand the function of the last sentence of the second paragraph, you need to remember the function of everything that came before it. The bulk of the second paragraph was about the tadpoles that avoided eating siblings in order to improve the survival of their genetic lineage. This example was provided in support of the inclusive fitness theory. However, the last sentence begins with “interestingly,” suggesting that not all is as it seems. Sure enough, just as we’re being led to believe that tadpoles would spare family members to protect the genes, we learn that some tadpoles will eat their siblings after all—so as not to die from hunger. So, the Purpose seems to provide an instance that goes contrary to the other evidence, making the inclusive fitness theory seem inapplicable in certain cases.

Evaluate the Answer Choices:

Answer Choice (A) This seems like a good candidate. Just as we were being lulled into believing that the inclusive fitness theory was a winner, along comes this fact that throws a monkey wrench into the system. This is a match to our prediction.

Choice (B) Outside the Scope. The fact in the last sentence is referring only to the spadefoot toad tadpoles, and makes no comparison to other species.

Choice (C) This “interesting” note runs contrary to everything that came before it.

Choices (D) Extreme. While it may question the validity of the inclusive fitness theory, it doesn’t necessarily make the tadpoles’ behavior unexplainable. In fact, it is explained—they’re very hungry and are more interested in saving themselves.

Choices (E) The information that precedes the last sentence is not less relevant. It’s plenty relevant as support for why the inclusive fitness theory is plausible.

Answer: A


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For anyone trying to figure out why option C is wrong in question 4, there are actually 3 paragraphs instead of 2 in the passage. The third paragraph starts with 'But there may be other reasons why organisms recognize kin.' Therefore, the last sentence of the second paragraph, by using the keyword interestingly, suggests that there may be other reasons for kin recognition, further complicating the issue.

I hope this helps clarify Q4!
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For anyone trying to figure out why option C is wrong in question 4, there are actually 3 paragraphs instead of 2 in the passage. The third paragraph starts with 'But there may be other reasons why organisms recognize kin.' Therefore, the last sentence of the second paragraph, by using the keyword interestingly, suggests that there may be other reasons for kin recognition, further complicating the issue.

I hope this helps clarify Q4!



Yes , it makes sense of explanation of Q4. I agree with C option now. thanks!

bm2201 @Saajjad1994: can you please split the 2nd para into 2 parts as pointed out by HustleG


Please also post the explanation of Q8.

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8. Which one of the following would, if true, most help to undermine the author’s evaluation in the last sentence of the passage?
(A) Many tiger salamander larvae infected by the deadly bacterium are not cannibalistic.
(B) The factor that determines which tiger salamander larvae are carnivorous and which are omnivorous is not contained in the genetic makeup of the larvae.
(C) Kin recognition helps tiger salamanders avoid inbreeding that may be life-threatening to their offspring.
(D) Noncannibalistic tiger salamanders tend to produce fewer offspring than cannibalistic tiger salamanders.
(E) Cannibalistic tiger salamanders are immune to certain diseases to which noncannibalistic salamanders are not.


I am confused with Option A .

Argument says: cannibalistic tiger salamanders don't eat their kins in order to save their lives not to spare kins' lives.

The conclusion can be weakened:
optionA: Even they don't eat any meat, still they can be infected with deadly bacterium. It means eating kin or not kin would not make difference. The whole arguments is shattered on the basis of which conclusion was made. Now this conclusion has no meaning. That was my reasoning for optionA.
I should reject A because this group is not our scope of focus?

Please suggest GMATNinja AndrewN GMATCoachBen

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8. Which one of the following would, if true, most help to undermine the author’s evaluation in the last sentence of the passage?
(A) Many tiger salamander larvae infected by the deadly bacterium are not cannibalistic.
(B) The factor that determines which tiger salamander larvae are carnivorous and which are omnivorous is not contained in the genetic makeup of the larvae.
(C) Kin recognition helps tiger salamanders avoid inbreeding that may be life-threatening to their offspring.
(D) Noncannibalistic tiger salamanders tend to produce fewer offspring than cannibalistic tiger salamanders.
(E) Cannibalistic tiger salamanders are immune to certain diseases to which noncannibalistic salamanders are not.


I am confused with Option A .

Argument says: cannibalistic tiger salamanders don't eat their kins in order to save their lives not to spare kins' lives.

The conclusion can be weakened:
optionA: Even they don't eat any meat, still they can be infected with deadly bacterium. It means eating kin or not kin would not make difference. The whole arguments is shattered on the basis of which conclusion was made. Now this conclusion has no meaning. That was my reasoning for optionA.
I should reject A because this group is not our scope of focus?

Please suggest GMATNinja AndrewN GMATCoachBen

Thanks!

Hello, mSKR. Understanding the relationship between the last two sentences of the passage should help you appreciate why (A) does NOT undermine anything the author says in the last line.

Quote:
The fact that this bacterium is more deadly when it comes from a close relative with a similar immune system suggests that natural selection may favor cannibals that avoid such pathogens by not eating kin. For tiger salamanders then, kin recognition can be explained simply as a means by which an organism preserves its own life, not as a means to aid in relatives’ survival.

Note the transition word in then. This is a cue that tells that, based on the information that has come before, we can conclude what is about to follow. Essentially, it serves in the same capacity as thus or therefore at the head of a sentence. If you look at that previous line in the passage, you will see that it says exactly what (A) lays out: that cannibalistic (tiger salamander) larvae that avoid harmful bacteria by not eating their infected kin have a better chance of survival. We want an answer instead that would make us think that the tiger salamanders, larvae or not, were refraining from such behavior out of consideration for the other organisms. Choice (C) touches on this next-of-kin relationship by mentioning a behavior that the salamanders abstain from in order to protect their offspring, organisms that are not themselves. Such information goes directly against the last line of the passage. Apparently, tiger salamanders would not be so self-centered after all.

I hope that helps.

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